Redditor provides counter-argument to documentary about South Africa's "Reverse Apartheid"

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[u/beeswaxx]

Go ahead and masturbate about Apartheid until you think it's going to solve things all while absolving the oppressed of all their faults. Perhaps if you masturbate hard enough you'll look like right past state capture, the black population explosion, unrealistic populist ideals, communism and tribal leaders who didn't even want to negotiate honestly. Oh and add gross mismanagement to the list.

no one here is seriously justifying the ANC's behavior, this is about white people complaining about reverse apartheid and not being given equal opportunities. and it's partly because of people like you, who belittle the impact of apartheid, that black people hate white people still.

Yes after they had to buy it of course. Or perhaps that's what you originally meant by given?

Yes, plenty of dirt poor afrikaners were GIVEN land in the early 20th century. it was a scheme where you could work on building the railway and then receive a piece of land as part of your compensation. i know this because my grandfather's cousin's family was a beneficiary of this scheme.

That clever Dingane signed the deal, invited them over for a performance and had them beaten to death like coward after they were heavily outnumbered with their guard lowered.

you keep mentioning specific events where the zulu's attacked unjustly, i'm saying that there were PLENTY of atrocities committed by the white folks in those days

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no one here is seriously justifying the ANC's behavior, this is about white people complaining about reverse apartheid and not being given equal opportunities. and it's partly because of people like you, who belittle the impact of apartheid, that black people hate white people still.

And I'm fed up with Apartheid being used as a shield by the ruling party and the majority as a justification for how things are going, all while public funds which are supposed to be used to empower black people is being ransacked. SOEs like SAA is making losses numbering in billions, Zuma gets a house worth R245,000,000, questionable Gupta vat refund released of R70,000,000, the arms deal etc.

If the parties the majority kept voting for earnestly tried to uplift black people then I would have a lot more empathy.

Yes, plenty of dirt poor afrikaners were GIVEN land in the early 20th century. it was a scheme where you could work on building the railway and then receive a piece of land as part of your compensation. i know this because my grandfather's cousin's family was a beneficiary of this scheme.

Then they didn't just get the land anyway. They still had to pay in one form or another.

you keep mentioning specific events where the zulu's attacked unjustly, i'm saying that there were PLENTY of atrocities committed by the white folks in those days

And I'm not saying the settlers were saints, but black people did their part to ensure that race relations went to hell long before Apartheid.

[u/beeswaxx → u/[deleted]]

Again, no one is justifying state capture. I am criticizing white people who somehow think they are under reverse apartheid.

Then they didn't just get the land anyway. They still had to pay in one form or another.

again, the point is that they COULD work for money and land while black people COULD NOT. plus the compensation was disproportional, they got the land to help them start up since they could not afford it. They had to work, but it was still worth more than the work they did. it was a government subsidiary.

And I'm not saying the settlers were saints, but black people did their part to ensure that race relations went to hell long before Apartheid.

so black people are at fault for being treated like animals? if black people were all friendly and hippy-like they would have been treated as equals? you really are delusional.

All over the globe, white people plundered, slaughtered and imprisoned the indigenous people: native americans, aztecs, incas, aborigines, tribes all over africa, asia, literally everywhere. but according to your logic it's the hostile natives that started the fire, not the gentle white settlers who might have made a few mistakes, but nothing compared to the savage locals!

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Queue the Zulu tribe, one of the most violent and blood thirsty peoples on the globe, pre-colonization and post-colonization.

No one is a saint.

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One would say the entire white race was blood thirsty on the globe.

You see how terrible generalisations are?