r/spqrposting Aug 04 '25

IMPERIVM·ROMANVM Aeneid is our tale of Greek origins.

I've been reading Aeneid both in language (Latin and Portuguese), and I been thinking: Who were the first “Romans”[?] One obvious objection to the idea that the relationship between Rome and Constantinople has been inverted is that the Byzantines called themselves Romans (Romaioi), and believed they were living in Romania. Persians, Arabs and Turks called them Roumis. Even the Greeks of the Hellenic Peninsula called themselves Romaioi in Late Antiquity, despite their detestation of the Latins. This is taken as proof that the Byzantines considered themselves the heirs of the Roman Empire of the West, founded in Rome, Italy. But it is not. Strangely enough, mythology and etymology both suggest that just like the name “Caesar”, the name “Rome” travelled from East to West, rather than the other way. Romos, Latinised in Romus or Remus, is a Greek word meaning “strong”. The Italian Romans were Etruscans from Lydia in Asia Minor. They were well aware of their eastern origin, the memory of which was preserved in their legends. According to the tradition elaborated by Virgil in his epic Aeneid, Rome was founded by Aeneas from Troy, in the immediate vicinity of the Bosphorus. According to another version, Rome was founded by Romos, the son of Odysseus and Circe.

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u/RomanItalianEuropean Aug 07 '25

The Aeneid is not claiming Greek origins for the Romans. It actually claims the Trojans were of Italian descent (via Dardanus) and thus Aeneas, once Troy has fallen, is ordered by Jupiter to return to the ancestral homeland of the Trojan people, Italia.

I don't understand your other claims.