Post Match Discussion Springboks-Australia

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[u/needle_hurts]

We don't truly have the depth that we've been talking about for the last year. We have a lot of player who are very good at club level. But they haven't had the time to be considered good test players. Marx playing 78 minutes means that, as good as he's looked in the URC, Rassie doesn't truly trust MvdM. In any game that even slightly matters, there's only one center combo that will play. Arguably we only have three genuine wing options. Willemse and Fassi are both very good players who so far this year have been good not great. But are either of them looking like top 3 or even top 5 fullback in the world? Wright, Jordan, Ramos, Keenan, Kinghorn, Malia have arguably all looked better thana Willemse and Fassi so far this year. Grant Williams is great, but who is the next 9? Morne has barely played. Jaden is out of the squad. And Cobus and Faf are getting old now. Three great 10s, but only one that is consistent. Locks aren't as consistently dominant as they have been in the past, and they're aging fast. Even tighthead prop isn't looking great. Frans, Koch, and Trevor have all played almost all minutes at 3 from 2018 to 2023. And most likely none of them will make 2027, and yet we haven't genuinely settled on the two best tightheads going forward. Hooker isn't looking good. Marx is the best hooker, but we've lost something by not having him finish games. Loose forward is probably the position with the most depth across the country, and yet in this crucial time to get players experience they're constantly getting injured. Ox is great. But who's backing him up?

[u/mmphil12 → u/needle_hurts]

Part of me thinks Rassie needs to rest all the older players for the end of year tour. Yes it probably means losses against Ireland and France but we can have a real look at our next in line players. Something like this:

1. Venter/Stenekamp
2. MvdM
3. TdT/Ntlabakanye
4. RG/ Nortje
5. Cobus Wiese
6. Phepsi/ Paul de Villiers
7. Dixon/Nortje/Louw if fit
8. Augustus/Hanekom/Jasper Wiese
9. MvdB/Pead/Hendrikse
10. Sasha
11. Hooker
12. Willemse/Hooker
13. Henco Venter/Moodie
14. Moodie/ Cheswil Jooste
15. Horn Some experience mixed with youth and a few out there selections.

[u/Careless-Cat3327 → u/mmphil12]

Is BJD injured? 

He was called up last year - had a great game Vs Aussies then a shocker vs NZ & we didn't see him again. 

DW, Fassi should be part of the squad too. Andre too.

Reinach for some experience off the bench.

[u/Tar-ZA-n → u/mmphil12]

Way too early for the baby boks. They may be Schalks and F.Steyns, or they may be Gaffies and Van Hoesslins. 💀