r/starterpacks 5d ago

The War Crimes Starter Pack:

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u/mikasasimpp 5d ago

They're clankers it doesn't count

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u/YourTypicalSensei 5d ago

Dude the hard R??? really???

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u/5foot7tall 5d ago

mah clanka

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u/StallOneHammer 5d ago

Whoa whoa whoa watch the hard r

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u/Past-Artichoke9148 5d ago

Damm liberal snowflake, those clankers arent on the ORANGE CATHOLIC BIBLE THEY VIOLATE THE PRECEPTS OF THE BUTLERIAN YIHAD

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u/DigmonsDrill 5d ago

Guess I'm charge now.

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u/-Im_In_Your_Walls- 5d ago

Say it with me everyone:

The use of flamethrowers against armed combatant is not a war crime in and of itself as recognized by international UN law.

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u/DigmonsDrill 5d ago

What if used against sheep?

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u/-Im_In_Your_Walls- 5d ago

Non combatant and destruction of property. War crime but not inherently because of the use of the flamethrower.

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u/DigmonsDrill 5d ago

"NoN-cOmBaTaNt"

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u/Rickk38 5d ago

It didn't seem to be an issue in Ratchet & Clank, so I'm gong to say it's just fine.

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u/YourTypicalSensei 5d ago

Attacking unarmed or wounded military personnel - It's a bit iffy but if they're considered hors-de-combat (out of action and don't pose any realistic threat) then yes it's a war crime

Killing fleeing combatants - No, they're still combatants and still capable of fighting back

Flamethrowers - Not a war crime as long as precautions are taken to prevent civilian deaths or unnecessary harm

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u/Denpants 5d ago

War crimes are war crimes if:

There is a documented witness that can testify

There is physical evidence of it happening

The perpetrator loses the war and thus can be physically compelled to face the conviction

So basically, war discouragements!

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u/DigmonsDrill 5d ago

A flamethrower is basically a light saber for muggles.

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u/el_butt 5d ago

I’m pretty sure it’s not illegal to kill fleeing combatants. Cause they’re still combatants.

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u/SemiDiSole 5d ago

This. In fact escaping (So also fleeing/retreating!) is explicitly mentioned as an exception. To quote the red Cross:

Attacks against Persons Hors de Combat

Rule 47. Attacking persons who are recognized as hors de combat is prohibited. A person hors de combat is:(a) anyone who is in the power of an adverse party;(b) anyone who is defenceless because of unconsciousness, shipwreck, wounds or sickness; or(c) anyone who clearly expresses an intention to surrender;provided he or she abstains from any hostile act and does not attempt to escape.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule47

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u/DigmonsDrill 5d ago

The single most dangerous time on the battlefield is when you're in retreat. It's very easy for someone to panic and break ranks early, and then the people next to them break ranks, and then you get flanked and completely overrun by an advancing enemy. The danger of being slaughtered in case you need to retreat is a major check on an advancing military. Having a guarantee of "safe retreat" is nuts.

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u/crzapy 5d ago

A fighting retreat is one of the hardest military maneuvers to execute well.

It's why Dunkirk is seen as a victory. (Victory isn't the right word. Maybe pivotal success) 7 Brilliant Military Retreats | HISTORY https://share.google/08NDsK9buJZnCdO04

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u/AacornSoup 5d ago

Dunkirk was a Tactical Victory for the Germans (the British ran away without their heavy equipment) but a Strategic Victory for the British (their army escaped intact personnel-wise).

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u/crzapy 4d ago

Given the quality of early war British equipment, leaving it behind may have been a win for the British.

Looking at you Vickers light tank!

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u/justUseAnSvm 5d ago

It's also the most dangerous time for civilians.

A fleeing army is very upset, they've lost friends, they've lost the objective, and the people standing around make easy targets, and live in a place their government no longer controls.

This happens in almost every war, and some of the worst atrocities from the Ukrainian Invasion were after Russia beat feet the first time.

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u/TheLazy1-27 5d ago

A combatant can still flee then come back later and still be a combatant. Fleeing isn’t surrendering. They’re trying to escape so they can avoid losing soldiers to getting captured and minimize losses. They’re still combatants and therefore still a threat.

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u/trap4pixels 5d ago

It's definitely not illegal, lol

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u/The_Great_Googly_Moo 5d ago

Its not a war crime if there is no in universe Geneva convention or ICC 😉

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u/VeryPteri 5d ago

Yeah technically this all happened a long time ago before then

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u/The_Great_Googly_Moo 5d ago

And far far away

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u/JakeVonFurth 5d ago edited 5d ago

Actually the term "War Criminal" is used in the series, so we just don't know for sure WHAT defines a war crime from in the SW universe.

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u/DigmonsDrill 5d ago

Star War Criminal

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u/crzapy 5d ago

Left out: wearing the uniform of an enemy combatant for the purpose of perfidy.

See Han and Luke dressed as stormtroopers.

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u/Moppo_ 1d ago

And Commando Droids wearing Clone helmets over video intercoms, or Clones reprogramming Battle Droids to pilot a captured ship.

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u/jinandgin 5d ago

What about killing younglings? Is that cool?

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u/Swumbus-prime 5d ago

The coolest!

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u/PBTUCAZ 5d ago

Wizard even

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u/Troncross 5d ago

flamethrowers are only a war crime in close proximity to civilians or infrastructure.

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u/First-Recording2489 5d ago

Aren't some geonosians civilians? The ones with wings are soldiers while the ones without are workers. The nests could have had civilians living in them when they started using flamethrowers

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u/deliciouscorn 5d ago

Star War Crimes

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u/GuinnessRespecter 5d ago

"And there is evidence a massacre took place. Satellite imaging shows what appears to be a mass grave."

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u/wehrahoonii 5d ago

"We're keepers of peace, not soldiers"

- Said no one, ever

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u/Yakuza-wolf_kiwami 5d ago

False Flag tactics

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u/Moppo_ 1d ago

War crimes? In MY "war is hell" anime?

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u/MrPresidentBanana 5d ago

Killing fleeing combatants is not a war crime. If they're surrendering they get protection, but if they're not, that's just pursuit in retreat.

Flamethrowers are legal, with the exception that they're not allowed to be used against forests, unless those forests are concealing combatants or other military objectives, plus the standard stuff like not being legal to use against civilians (like all other weapons). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamethrower#International_law

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u/casey-primozic 5d ago

This should just be a flag of Israel

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u/Searrete99 5d ago

You can violate the Geneva convention on Civilization as well

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u/Sad-Attempt6263 5d ago

thankyou for highlighting number 1, that never gets highlighted 

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u/lovinglyme91 5d ago

Reason 151: On why western fiction sucks now. Overanalyzing everything to a stupid degree.

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u/animaldude55 5d ago

Lmao at the Star Wars

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u/Moppo_ 1d ago

These are Earth war crimes. How does their galaxy define them?

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u/SlideN2MyBMs 5d ago

What video game is this? Is it good?

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u/DeviousMelons 5d ago

Its Star Wars The Clone Wars and it's a TV show.

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u/SlideN2MyBMs 5d ago

I seriously didn't know that it was a TV show. I've heard of clone wars but I never watched it.

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u/Truethrowawaychest1 5d ago

It's good, starts a little rough but turns into some of the best stuff Star Wars has to offer

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u/DeviousMelons 5d ago

It's a great show.

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u/SemiDiSole 5d ago

Stellaris, it's great by the way! I like Rimworld more but, you know... Both have plenty of war crimes! :)

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u/CherimoyaChump 5d ago

I think it's actually Chameleon Twist 2 (N64)