r/tacticalgear • u/[deleted] • Apr 21 '25
Gear/Equipment Decided to throw on 120lbs of gear... it sucked
My normal kit doesn't actually weigh 120 I just put a bunch of stuff on their to get it too 120 just for the feel
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u/The_Chief- Apr 21 '25
You want it to suck more? I can explain from experience how to achieve just that
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u/BdeL68 Apr 21 '25
There no leaves on those trees so it’s obviously cold out still… make it 3 AM, already 80° and 100% humidity…
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u/Office_Responsible Apr 21 '25
I’ll be honest I 100% hate the heat too but damn the most miserable I’ve been has been on ex Frozen Gunner over the years in Shilo, Manitoba…
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Apr 21 '25
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u/The_Chief- Apr 21 '25
Long range recon missions are pain. Obviously not Service related pain. But it sure sucks to march with all that shit and even more. I was team medic so I had to bring enough to take care of everyone in the team plus some more stuff just in case something goes wrong. Didnt want to switch with our radio dude either
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u/cocaineandwaffles1 Apr 21 '25
I wasn’t long range recon, just a regular medic with combat engineers. But I always shared the love. You want me to carry some extra shit? Sure, but you’re carrying my extra fluids and other bulk items.
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u/TheFisGoingOn Apr 21 '25
Just add being told to do so, there 20x worse. Let me pour some fuel on the fire, why don't you get out of the staging area and walk waaaay over there where we can't see with our eyes but trust me follow the map".
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u/The_Chief- Apr 21 '25
Yeah true. Not adding some fuel with it, you tossed a fucking jerry can on that fire
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u/Long-Chef3197 Apr 21 '25
I think its funny how many dudes like myself were issued these items and hated them, but you guys love them. But rock on
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u/GoombasFatNutz Apr 21 '25
Yeah, I get that same sentiment. I hate issued gear. It sucks and there's much better alternatives. It's because they're not being forced to use it and haven't really done any real training in a military setting with some angry NCO yelling that they're not allowed to make it lighter because there's a 0.000000001% chance they might need something.
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u/DirtyThirtyDrifter Apr 21 '25
Now go hike 20 miles
“Your injuries are not related to service, thank you try again later”
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u/eazye06 Apr 21 '25
People will do anything except actually enlist
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Apr 21 '25
I will just gotta finish high school
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u/CraaZero Apr 22 '25
Don't do it. Go to college, get your bachelors, then commission if you REALLY want to join the military.
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Apr 22 '25
Nah my heritage is grunt work
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u/SnooShortcuts5056 Apr 22 '25
good for you, I was the same way there was no talking me out of joining, Make sure you get Airborne in your contract recruiters will lie and say you can do it later in your career don't listen to them make sure that you got Airborne School after basic training in your contract. ALL THE WAY. (I'm assuming you would want to go Airborne judging by ur post history)
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u/UntilTheEyesShut Apr 22 '25
your heritage is risking your life or dying for the benefit of lockheed martin shareholders.
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u/88bauss Apr 21 '25
😂
Btw people jointing the military just to LARP and hold cool guns is about the dumbest thing. Study for your asvab and try to pick a job in the Cyber/Computer field. You’ll be making hella money when you get out and get a civilian/contractor job and be able to afford all those cool guns you wanted to hold.
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u/excellentiger Apr 21 '25
Imagine joining the military to become a nerd
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u/ass_cash253 Apr 21 '25
Yeah, much better to join the infantry and have blown out knees by 23 like me!
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u/IplaywiVelEctricity Apr 21 '25
Go in and use the tools they gave you to better yourself or don't... all you get to show for it is a nice double wide...1st house second door!
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u/WUSSUPMONKEY Connoisseur of Autism Patches Apr 21 '25
Most of combat arms dudes are nerds. Hell most of the army is nerds
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u/KiddBwe Apr 21 '25
You can be a nerd AND a threat. I know a lot of other 25-series guys that have seen combat, deployed with infantry in the paint, etc. Not me tho, although I almost got sent out of the wire when I was in Syria for a mission, but they never figured out if/when the mission was gonna happen. Syria relatively safe nowadays anyways, so wouldn’t have been huge regardless.
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u/SecretHippo1 Apr 21 '25
Do this. I was making $160K/yr (nearly) tax free as a civilian contractor in Afghanistan when I was 23-25 for a couple years after doing 6 years army and 1 tour to Iraq. I’m 36 now and own a defense tech startup. Worked for Apple and a $1B cybersecurity startup along the way, all because I chose a job in the cyber field (satellite operations and network comms). You’ll do great.
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Apr 21 '25
Ain't gonna enlist for the money
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u/runswithscissors94 Apr 21 '25
Spend 30 days at U.S. Marine Corps Mountain Warfare Training Center during the winter package or get told to sweep the sun off the sidewalk as a punishment for messing up and you might change your mind. It’s admirable that you want to serve your country and what the flag is supposed to stand for, but you should listen to the dudes who have been there and done that. The majority of people who join with intent to be lifers end up getting out after one or two enlistments, after realizing it’s not what they hoped it would be. Outside the gun club, no one actually cares that you’re a combat vet or whether or not you did high speed shit. Being infantry doesn’t qualify you for any civilian job and you will spend the remainder of your adult life feeling isolated, stuck, behind the power curve, and be depressed because of it. Pick a job that gets you civilian certifications and translates to a well-paying civilian career. Adult you will be glad you did.
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u/SecretHippo1 Apr 21 '25
It’s either that or don’t and struggle through life unless you get your education as well.
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u/runswithscissors94 Apr 21 '25
Yes. Then if you’re in a job where you’re not in the field or deployed 8 days a week, you can use tuition assistance to go to college while you’re in and save your GI Bill.
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u/NoobieSnax Apr 21 '25
That's fine but if you have the opportunity to do a job that offers better avenues in civilian life after your service is up it'd be foolish not to.
Ask me how I know...
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u/SecretHippo1 Apr 21 '25
You’re talking to a disabled US Army veteran. I didn’t enlist for the money either. I have to take pills, attend therapy, and keep myself in check. I have PTSD due to a TBI. I’ve also been to jail and lost my 1st wife due to the price I am paying for my service. Money is not what the advice is about, it’s about having a good life after you serve your country. The amounts shared are simply an example of said good life.
I enlisted for the experience, opportunities, and the chance to service my country. I hope you do the same and learn something along the way that can help you after the military because there is always an after. Sometimes, life doesn’t work out how you want and it starts sooner rather than later.
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Apr 21 '25
Im sorry to hear that but idont care if I die. It's my duty to serve and my heritage. It'll suck if something bad happens but I have to join.
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u/WeissMISFIT Apr 22 '25
Bruh ur friends and family care if you die. When you say it’s your duty to serve, who are you serving? The American people? What do the American people do for you? Do they give you a good education, do they look after you when you’re sick.
Let me be absolutely clear, if you die it will not be for the American people, it will be for capitalism.
What did the soldiers who died in Afghanistan fight for? What about Iraq? They’re not fighting for freedom, it’s a fight for capitalism.
Don’t be a pawn, be a player. Join if you must but don’t get confused if you get deployed, it’s a fight for capitalism.
War is always about resources and the access to it, you’ll hardly ever benefit from it but you’ll most certainly risk your life so someone else can. Odds are that someone else doesn’t give a flying fuck about you or your family if you die.
War is a terrible thing, don’t go looking for it.
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u/SecretHippo1 Apr 22 '25
Let me be absolutely clear, if he dies fighting for his country, he dies for the right thing. Point blank. Period.
That’s the end of the discussion.
Remember the bad in the world? That’s what he died fighting if so.
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u/KiddBwe Apr 21 '25
Then what are you enlisting for? The military will 100% leave you depressed and broken and give you nothing to show for it if you’re not focusing how you can set yourself up financially afterwards. Not even just financially. Medically. Mentally. You name it. You you don’t secure it for yourself, the military will wring everything you got out of you and toss you to the wayside when you can no longer serve.
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Apr 21 '25
What will I enlist for? For my country my people's rights and liberties and my heritage. And I dont care about the sad sappy soap box stories either. I live in the south where veterans get treated well and I'm sick of you guys discouraging people from joining. Half of yall ain't even veterans but act like yall are
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u/runswithscissors94 Apr 23 '25
Heritage is history. It doesn’t mean you have to follow in those footsteps. That’s some lieutenant Dan shit. Do better and set yourself up for a better life than the ones who went before you. There is like one person on this post who said don’t join. We are ALL saying choose a better job because you will be a lot happier if you do. You’re not fighting for rights or freedom…the U.S. hasn’t really fought for that since WW2 or maybe Korea. We spent over 20 years in the Middle East and created entire terrorist organizations because Bill Clinton stopped a proxy war using the mujahideen, we wanted some oil and gold, and so Dick Cheney could profit. It would serve you well to learn some history. Veterans don’t really get treated well, which is why the suicide rate is astronomical. If you want to join, that’s cool. We are just trying to tell you what you’re actually getting into and you’re not listening because of some fantasy you’ve been led to believe like the rest of us were. If you want to question my service, I’ll gladly post a link to my DD-214, my depression meds, and the mri of my knees.
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u/Acceptable-Face-3707 Apr 21 '25
You’re damn right. Fuck the establishment, i buy gear and train for my own self preservation, not the preservation of the US Government. I will not be shipped off to a desert or a jungle for the military industrial complex.
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u/gunsforevery1 Apr 21 '25
But then all that training is for nothing. At least you get to use it when getting shipped off to the desert or jungle.
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u/Acceptable-Face-3707 Apr 21 '25
Thats kinda the whole point, i truly hope it is all for nothing. I hope i die at 87 leaned up against an old oak tree on my 15 acre homestead with my rusty g$ build that i never used offensively leaning on the tree next to me. I just dont think we are capable of making it that far as a country and as a society.
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u/gunsforevery1 Apr 21 '25
Sounds like a huuuuuuuge waste of time. Id rather get that training, use it, and then die an old man. Not everyone is cut out for that life though.
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Apr 21 '25
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u/shitnouser Apr 21 '25
You’re not going to change the minds of knuckle Draggers my dude. I feel ya though.
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u/PromiscuousScoliosis Apr 21 '25
You’d think veteran disability or suicide would bother people more than it actually does.
I’m not even talking about civilian casualties, or causing reactionary terrorist attacks domestically, or any of the less tangible costs of a runaway military industrial complex.
Just like… have you ever lost a buddy to suicide for no good reason? Or one of your mates just gets blown the fuck up for no purpose? Why would we want more families to go through that. It’s all fun until it isn’t
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u/shitnouser Apr 21 '25
It’s likely because they lack empathy and the wherewithal to look inside and realize they went to war for greed and resources.
This is a fashion sub, not a bootlicker sub. It’s about time they realized.
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u/eazye06 Apr 21 '25
What a well thought out point dude, you’ve completely changed my mind about everything. Thanks
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u/Normal-Astronaut2722 Apr 21 '25
Sir. Your rifle has a disturbing lack of paint.
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Apr 22 '25
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u/Normal-Astronaut2722 Apr 22 '25
I love looking at black guns. They look so much bigger than painted ones. But, if the goal is to not be seen. Paint is the way.
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u/Swift_Legion Apr 21 '25
Especially if you stand like that! You have to be aware of how you position your body with that much weight.
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u/reallynunyabusiness Apr 21 '25
Non issued holster, hole in glove, open dustcover on rifle.
Unsat private, grab a water source and meet me at the treeline.
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u/TuT0311 Apr 21 '25
Just convince yourself it doesn’t suck and that pain is awesome. That’s the trick!
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u/grifter_shifterM5 Apr 21 '25
It sucks a lot more when you don’t know the difference between there and their.
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u/Sille_salmon Apr 21 '25
Probably get some non-BCT boots
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Apr 21 '25
Those boots are great
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u/Arran_Biospark Apr 21 '25
Give it a 12 mile ruck march and you'll change your mind
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Apr 21 '25
They are just as comfortable as any boot iv ever tried
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u/Solid-Safety-4844 Apr 24 '25
Man fuck no. 😭😭😭 Soldiers who use BCT boots post basic usually are trash soldiers. Get some Garmonts or some Rocky’s or something. And don’t tuck your pants in your boots. That’s some POG new dick shit.
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Apr 22 '25
at least you're not the one saddled with an AT4 or Javelin. what items are in your normal kit and what is your use case or objective?
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Apr 22 '25
Well I always carry 8 mags a camelback multitool, holster, dump pouch, knife admin pouch and helmet, everything else is situational. In this pitucalor photo what you can't see is the ruck. It's 45 lbs and it has anything from sleeping systems to full mopp gear
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Apr 21 '25
Honestly Idk why this made so many people mad. I guess some airsofters just can't handle what working out and training looks like
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u/OneFourtyFivePilot Apr 21 '25
Hope that .8 ounces from your empty camelback helped with the working out. 🏋️♂️
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Apr 21 '25
Bros brain dead. Camel back maybe empty but there's still 120lbs of kit soft hands
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u/Hymmnos Apr 22 '25
I think this whole thread is very funny. Good job, OP. My only question is if you have so much on already, why wouldn’t you full send and load up all the rails on the rifle until they’re full of LAMs.
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Apr 22 '25
The kit was so tight until I saw the Velcro holster.
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Apr 22 '25
Don't worry bro I'm ditching that
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Apr 22 '25
MY MAN
What are you planning to get to replace it?
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Apr 22 '25
For now I got a holster that goes on the belt directly. But eventually I'll get one of them polymer ones for a 10mm
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u/SOFenthusiast Apr 22 '25
And I thought my kit over here with a 30 pound plate carrier (that’s fully loaded up with ammo, armor, misc stuff) and a 45 pound ruck (no water) was heavy. I shall give your knees a good luck.
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u/tghost474 Apr 21 '25
The only issue I am taking umbrage with is I hope that’s not a military unit patch on your left shoulder. Otherwise have fun be safe.
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u/Able-Quantity-1879 Apr 21 '25
That's not 120 lbs. of gear. And you never carry 120 lbs. of gear...
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u/WildResident2816 Apr 21 '25
Dude, I was a super POG and still have spent many hours training CQ in full MOPP with 70+ Lbs of gear, also have done humps with well over a 100lbs. And that was just some ammo cans on top of the standard list. I’ve known grunts to carry a good bit more in the real world.
Maybe you don’t carry a lot of weight for a standard patrol, security detail, or mounted op but it’s very very possible for ground movement with big weights and def happens in training.
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u/gunsforevery1 Apr 21 '25
That’s funny. I was combat arms and we never did CQC in full MOPP with 70+ pounds of gear nor did we ever do any ruck marches with over 100 pounds of gear.
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u/Office_Responsible Apr 21 '25
Man I’m arty and have done 100lbs plus rucks in snow shoes pushing/pulling a fucking 5 man tent to get into a shitty ass OP hide that can’t even see the TAI. Then sitting there in -35 Celsius and somehow I managed to find the only ice with running water under it and fall in. Just the January in Gagetown experience. Not shitting on you, this comment section has got me kinda heated and but hey I’m just in my late 20’s with a fucked up back lol
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u/gunsforevery1 Apr 21 '25
That’s pretty fuckin weak. We only had one man tents. I guess our units didn’t hate us.
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u/Office_Responsible Apr 21 '25
We have one man tents but when it’s so cold you have to run a stove inside. So it comes in a sled, with a stove and then a 20L Jerry or 2. I like the tents because it’s warm as fuck when the stove is running with both burners
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u/ass_cash253 Apr 21 '25
Funny. Everyone who wasn't a grunt but wants people to think they were a grunt always says "combat arms." FYI, grunts do all of that stuff, and often.
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u/gunsforevery1 Apr 21 '25 edited Apr 21 '25
I was a tanker. In an infantry company, in an infantry battalion. Every company had a platoon of tankers for armored support. We did everything the infantry did, including patrols.
Front row. 2nd on the right.
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u/ass_cash253 Apr 21 '25
Cool man. Tanks are dope. I was an 03, and I'm just saying we routinely did training with 70+ pounds of kit. When I was doing R&S missions it was easy to push 100-120lbs.
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u/gunsforevery1 Apr 21 '25
We did everything our company did. Never once carried more than 70 pounds of gear (ruck and armor). We were the “5th infantry platoon”, but only like 20 of us. So 2 squads worth troops.
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u/WildResident2816 Apr 21 '25
Im not calling it good training lol, a lot of it was basically just haze fest non-sense or SNCOs making up stuff on the fly with limited imaginations.
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u/rumandcope Apr 21 '25
I did as an 11C RTO with the JRTC packing list plus some dummy 81mm rounds. Most of my platoon was pushing 100lbs. We didn’t move far or fast though, just jumping from one MFP to another.
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u/gunsforevery1 Apr 21 '25
If that’s the criteria, I also carried 100+ pounds from the chinook to my CHU.
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u/rumandcope Apr 21 '25
I didn’t say that as a flex, was just saying ruck marches with weight like that are a thing. We weren’t doing a 12 mile with that kind of weight.
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u/gunsforevery1 Apr 21 '25
No one is. Will you carry your own shit for a short period of time? Absolutely.
Will you go on 12-18 hour patrols with 120 pounds of gear? Definitely not.
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Apr 21 '25
Bro what
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u/gunsforevery1 Apr 21 '25
I never did while in Iraq.
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Apr 21 '25
Ok well different units do different stuff and iv known people who had to carry 120
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u/gunsforevery1 Apr 21 '25
Not on patrol lol. They probably carried 120 pounds from their vehicle to the CHU. I’ve never met anyone on any patrol that carried even half the shit you have on.
Our saw gunner probably had that much weight, but that was just because of ammo. The minimum load is 600 but 1000 isn’t uncommon.
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u/Able-Quantity-1879 Apr 21 '25
We cross loaded the ammo so the gunners didn't have to hump 1000 rounds themselves.
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u/Competitive-Book-959 Apr 21 '25
We had 120 sometimes, maybe even a little more depending on the mission. (Afghanistan) Our BC went down the line checking our gear one time (weird power move lol), before we went out on mission (dismounted air assault), he literally couldn't move some of our rucks. His actual words "damn that shits heavy" lol! Situations vary my friend!
oh and, my back hurts.....
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u/Solid-Safety-4844 Apr 24 '25
As a Scout we lived out of our Rucks. Never in my 8 years have I carried anything over 100lbs in training or in Iraq. And I was a 240 Gunner. That’s a 27lbs gun, with my life on my back including spare barrel, tripod and 1200 rounds. Scouts don’t have AG/ABs. At most I weighted my pack at 84lbs. In Iraq I carried WAYY less . Most times I didn’t even carry a ruck.
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u/ShaolinTrapLord Apr 22 '25
This isn’t going to be service connected.
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u/ADGx27 Apr 22 '25
At least your gear fits together properly. Got a friend in the forces who had to go get bungee cords and tie his ruck kit together because they ran out of molle shit lmao.
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u/SeductiveSlooth Apr 22 '25
Please move that optic as far forward on the upper receiver as possible. It helps improve your field of view/spacial awareness by having less of the housing blocking your view. It makes it possible to passively aim when using nods (even if you dont have them yet, its better to get the musecle memory down now so the transition is easier). Finally, it pulls the optic away from your face for situations where you need to make the rifle as compact as possible, such as room clearing. When going through doorways, you'll often times pull the stock over/outside of your shoulder to bring the barrel back toward you a few inches. When doing so, you can still look through or over the optic without it bashing you in the face.
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u/Funeral03 Apr 23 '25
Try doing 75 miles with 120 lbs of gear, this sucks. Props to trying it out though:D
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Apr 23 '25
Nobody does 75, at that point I'd try my luck with a car
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u/Funeral03 Apr 23 '25
We had to, it’s a tradition. It’s in the end of NCO course. Within 75 miles, there are tactical and non-tactical situations/task aswell. Gotta embrace the suck!!
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u/Firestrike23 Apr 27 '25
Not sure if this is just for LARP but if you do plan on enlisting or he’ll just even training keep your weight 50-65lbs. Anymore than that and I promise your joints will not thank you later. And if you are enlisting, you’ll get plenty of time to feel 120 on your back if you’re infantry.
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u/gunsforevery1 Apr 21 '25
How do you get your mag out with the knife in the way?
Drop the puss pad and cleaning kit.
Can you even grab your pistol?
How do drop into the prone?
Why do you have an empty/open camel back?
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Apr 21 '25
Knife doesn't get in the way.
Extro protection doesn't hurt and cleaning kits are useful
I drop into prone by doing it, not hard
Bc I was using a canteen and forgot to close the top
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u/gunsforevery1 Apr 21 '25
The puss pad is for sleeping. Just sleep on the ground. I can see you can’t low crawl with all that shit on. Take one or the other.
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u/GooniestMcGoon Apr 21 '25
looking like this is why I refuse to buy anything multicam
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u/CFishing Apr 21 '25
Multi cam is one of the most effective universal camos and even works in urban areas in the dark, who the fuck cares what you look like?
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u/Several_Philosophy58 Apr 21 '25
Could suck a lot more, get a LAW and an m320 for a more authentic the military sucks experience