r/tacticalgear • u/Blackbeard_556 • Jul 13 '25
Weapons/Tactics Drum on a duty rifle?
Who’s ever seen a cop run a drum on a AR? I was always under the assumption that drums are problematic.
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u/LOFI-SAMURAI Jul 13 '25
Fuck reloading
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u/SouthernStatement832 Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 19 '25
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u/mp8815 Jul 13 '25
Coupled mags have a lot of other issues, particularly stuff getting into the exposed mag or just bullets popping out if you hit the ground hard. Same amount of ammo with no reload definitely makes more sense to me.
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u/ESVAL97 Jul 13 '25
With that flared magwell, you can't run normally coupled mags unless you mod them to be very separated.
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u/Cefiro8701 Jul 14 '25
The surefire 60 was great til one came apart on me in use. Ugh.
I still have nightmares about that piece of paper shooting back at me. /s
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u/Lumpy-Ring-1304 Jul 13 '25
Not all cops are gun/gear guys, he mightve just looked at it and said more bullets are more better
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u/vintagestagger Jul 13 '25
Idk... G$ Super Duty URG, Maritime bolt catch, Unity micro mount and probably an Aimpoint. This guy clearly has some indication of what's good. Nobody told him drum mags suck I guess.
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u/SingularityScalpel Jul 13 '25
Maritime bolt catch is cool, but is shit quality. MIM
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u/vintagestagger Jul 13 '25
A huge amount of parts are MIM now, but you're right, I have seen instances of them breaking.
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u/Surprise_Thumb Ban Hammer 🔨 Jul 13 '25
If he knew what was good he wouldn’t be running the maritime catch lmao
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u/CamTheMan1302 Jul 14 '25
I feel like I might be getting into a rabbit hole by asking but what's wrong with drum mags?
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u/theskirata Jul 15 '25
Basically 2 things: For 1, they‘re seen as less reliable due to a bigger risk of malfunctions, though the Magpul D60s are certainly on the better end in that regard. For 2, they‘re obviously much more bulky than regular mags, making them far more annoying to carry around.
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u/definitelynotpat6969 Jul 13 '25
I copped a D60 when they first came out. Haven't had a single issue at the range. Put close to a thousand rounds through it at this point.
Then again, I'm not a cop.
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u/Train2Perfection Jul 13 '25
Only issue with the d60 is loading it. Mfer is a pain in the thumb to load.
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u/Bleak_Outlook_6178 Jul 14 '25
You don't use the lever?
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u/Train2Perfection Jul 14 '25
Of course, what finger do you use on it? I use my thumb and it definitely is sore by the time I get 60 rounds in.
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u/Bleak_Outlook_6178 Jul 14 '25 edited Jul 14 '25
Hmmm that's weird. I always found them easy to load since they have the built in loading lever?
I wonder if yours might just need to be cleaned/lubed.
It's kind of a PITA to take them apart but not horrible.
Edit: Wait I just checked how I do it and how are you using your thumb? I brace my thumb against the vertical part while pulling back on the lever with my pointer and middle fingers.
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u/Snoo_50786 Jul 13 '25
magpul drums are fine. Heard some shit somewhere along the lines of "the most ammunition fired during a firefight is at the very beginning" or something to that affect.
Youll see stuff like this along with even 40 rounder pmags being pretty common among those who carry the sentiment.
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u/Probably_Boz Jul 13 '25
D60s are fine, they work and are reliable. Everyone is parroting fuddlore about drums these days
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u/guynamedgoliath Jul 13 '25
My department issues 60 round for rifles. So this would cover the full load.
That said, I wouldn't want only a single mag in the event that mag fails. I actually use three 20rd mags to keep the rifle maneuverable in tight spaces and for the comfort of the spare mags on my kit.
I have more time in an AR than any other weapon system, 2 combat deployments, and the rifle has an eotech and magnifier. If I need more than 20 rounds, there's an issue, but at least I'll get a dope ass reload on my bodycam.
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u/badger_flakes Jul 13 '25
I feel like if you need more than 20 rounds you’re gonna need more than 60 too lol
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u/guynamedgoliath Jul 13 '25
I actually kinda agree. I originally only carried an extra 20rd on the belt. But I caught flack for not having the full 60 rounds, so I threw the third on the vest.
LE is starting to adopt "directed" fire (total not suppresive fire), which is shooting at the top of doors and windows in extreme cases to allow team movement. So I could see having the full 60 as useful.
Some guys keep more mags in their cars, but I'm dubious about how practical that is. Security through speed and mobility means I'm not just sitting at my car door during a prolonged engagement. Big events like active shooters require units to leave their vehicles away from the scene, meaning what you leave the vehicle with is what you have. Im grabbing my med bag at that point.
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u/badger_flakes Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
I can’t find it but the park rangers or somebody out at Yellowstone or some huge one went in to service a vehicle and the mechanic posted a photo of huge tote just filled with loaded magazines.
I guess they run into cartel/gang groups, maybe grow operations, and need to be able to continue returning fire until additional support can arrive.
I think it might have been on a mechanics subreddit if anyone finds it please post so I can see that again lol
Edit: ChatGPT was able to find it after a few tries.
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u/Wannabecowboy69 Jul 13 '25
I would also love to see that
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u/badger_flakes Jul 13 '25
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u/Wannabecowboy69 Jul 13 '25
What a legend
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u/No-Channel960 Jul 13 '25
Dudes got a flir and some decent gear in there.
But if you guys think that's a lot, you should see what gear the DNR and conservation guys carry. Inside of the trucks look like an armory.
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u/Wannabecowboy69 Jul 13 '25
How does one find pictures of that?? Forest cops are a special interest lol
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u/No-Channel960 Jul 13 '25
I just know from work that it's common to bring multiple firearms with you so you can dispatch different sized animals.
One of our local guys has 4 different rifles and a shotgun in his slide outs.
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u/Applejaxc Jul 13 '25
But I caught flack for not having the full 60 rounds
I'm just a layman and won't try to explain your own profession to you. But I'd rather be ready for the next Miami Shootout than comfortable (or more realistically, being somewhere in the middle of "1-2 20 rounders" vs "I am fighting two guys in homemade body armor who are hard balling stimulants and painkillers and want to die")
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u/guynamedgoliath 9d ago
The issue with both of your examples is that only the bad guys had rifles. That was the real issue, and both those events changed LE in America afterward.
In Miami, the FBI was only armed with pistols and a shotgun, while the subjects had a mini-14 rifle.
In North Hollywood. The police only had pistols and shotguns, and the subjects were wearing IIIA armor. The moment SWAT actually showed up with rifles, they ended it pretty quick.
The issue is I have to do the job for 30 years. Comfort matters. Most of the day to day is taking reports and doing traffic stops. Add to that most of the foot chases are with skinny dudes wearing normal clothes and shoes. Weight and bulk matter. Obviously, SWAT is plusing up on ammo, but they aren't carrying the more mundane stuff, nor are they wearing it 12 hours a day, every day.
A pistol is really the primary weapon for most LE. Add all the extra stuff I have to carry (radio, taser, baton, Ifak, pistol mags, med bag, tourniquets, bodycam, handcuffs) and I literally start to run out of room on my kit.
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u/helloWorld69696969 Jul 13 '25
I mean you don't need more than 20 until you are in a North Hollywood robbery...
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u/guynamedgoliath Jul 13 '25
And like the other person responded, 60 won't feel like enough. I've got to have more on me for my day to day calls than seven 30rd mags.
It's important to remember that North Hollywood (and the FBI Miami shootout) changed the game for LE in America. The patrolmen weren't issued rifles, only shotguns and pistols. If every responding patrolman had a patrol rifle, the shootout would have been over much quicker. It was after this event that patrol rifles started to become more common.
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u/No_Cartoonist6359 Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
In this thread you mentioned not wanting to keep more mags in the cruiser because you have to move, either to get off the x or to move to contact for an active shooter.
For quick grab-n-go, a usgi mag bandolier would be an easy way to add ammo. Being prior service I'm sure you have used them.
Stow it with your med kit. Has loops to attach a strap so you could use as improvised chest rig or just fix it to your side so it's not bouncing around as you move.
Fits 6 STANAG magazines.
pousinboots excellent demo of ways to wear the bandolier https://youtu.be/vdFpF-h-f8w?t=8m31s
Another option to combine the med kit and your extra ammo would be the SOG 1st responder bag, which I think is a copy of a 5.11 bag. I own three of these and have found their quality to be excellent.
Mag pouches can take up to 2 AR mags each, including P Mag.
Not sure if it can carry all your med kit though.
On the body-side there's a velcro strap to go around your belt but I've never used it.
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u/guynamedgoliath Jul 13 '25
I forgot to say my Med bag does have 2 more 30rd mags on it. But it's really more of a mass-cal bag, which, luckily, i haven't had to use it. I actually have a 2 ifaks on my belt. A small one for me at the 1-2 o'clock, and a Roll 1 at the rear with GSW for shooting hits. The Roll 1 is very useful in that role as it can be left with the patient if I need to do something. And it holds enough stuff to treat 2ish people depending on injuries.
I dont have issues with having extra ammo, especially in a go/med bag. The guys I'm think about are the ones that have extra loose mags in the door or seat caddy. You aren't grabbing those loose mags when you're dumping out of a vehicle under stress and you aren't fighting from your front seat for 200 rounds.
Coworker has that bag, and I do like it. My thought was to use it as a giant butt pack/fanny pack instead of a crossbody, just for ease of movement. Was also playing with the idea of a soft armor in the bag to act as pelvic protection if worn on the front. I don't really care for my med bag, to be honest, but it was issued when I got my EMT cert.
Im very familiar with the USGI bandaleer, which is why I don't like that option. Plus, a chest rig over other molle gear is weird.
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u/No_Cartoonist6359 Jul 13 '25
Agreed on all points.
I have also considered it would be nice to have as a massive butt / fanny pack...I'd love to hear if you come up with an elegant solution for that.
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u/guynamedgoliath 9d ago
Update: I recently responded to a "swatting" active shooter call. The issued med pack wasn't great. It's a backpack style pack. The issue was between the rifle sling and wearing it over armor (impossible to have it sit comfortably and be able to doff it). Same issues I had with an M4 and Assault pack. I'll definitely be looking at changing it out.
Also, a couple of bottles of water would be good. I was on scene for about 3 hours with no water. Luckily, I was hydrated, but others clearly were not.
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u/Altruistic2020 Jul 14 '25
I've got a bag like the SOG, had it so long I'm not sure which it is, but has been an amazing range bag and standby bug out bag.
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u/Graywhale12 Jul 13 '25
I mean, I get the idea. Most police work, say you are not going through an O block or shooting the assailant 69 times for no reason whatsoever, it should be fine for a 60-90 round drum.
Though I wouldn't do that.
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u/mp8815 Jul 13 '25
D60s are very reliable. They're very common on high-level competition guns and with sof units. I could see then making sense for a cop since he's only gonna have the ammo on the gun, and these make a lot more sense than coupled mags.
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u/Snider83 Jul 13 '25
D60's are fine. Not every gun "rule" is black and white. Police use? I dunno, but I have seen heat
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u/november512 Jul 14 '25
If the gun is a car gun the d60 is reliable and isn't going to weigh a car down.
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u/KilroyNeverLeft Jul 13 '25
I see the vision of wanting more ammo in your first mag. If you need to fight your way to cover, having to do a reload would be "sub-optimal," as the kids say. I know the Magpul drums are pretty good as far as drums go, but I'd probably go with something more consistently reliable like a PMAG 40.
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u/ripnrun285 Jul 13 '25
If your “squad” is unable to acquire select fire/belt fed weapons, I could see arguing for one guy to be running these to at least have sooooomething to throw a ton of rounds down with. Still not much of a force multiplier, but better than nothing I guess.
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u/PearlButter Jul 13 '25
Guess he wanted a sort of first contact setup. Dunno how that’ll play out for LE compared to two mags taped together.
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u/diprivanity Jul 13 '25
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indiscriminateahem "educated guess" direction and volume of first contact fire is, I hope, not being used by stateside LE.2
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u/Leafy0 Jul 13 '25
What’s the loadout when running drums. Do you put your other ammo in drums too and like put them in saw pouches or do you run a drum in the gun but normal 30 rounders for the rest of your ammo?
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u/No-Channel960 Jul 13 '25
D60s work fine but fuck that for a patrol rifle. 3 30 rounders for police work is perfectly fine.
Also, i wonder how he carries it in his vehicle because a 60 wouldn't fit in my back tray or in my seat mount.
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u/Sharp_Low6787 Jul 13 '25
this just makes you look like you want to get into a shootout
Eh, generally by the time the rifles come out it's because there's already shots fired. I don't think it's a huge issue, it's not like he's walking foot patrols with this thing.
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u/achonng Jul 13 '25
That’s not true. Sometimes you be on the perimeter of a barricade for 6 hours just standing around
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u/Blakefilk Jul 13 '25
I mean the concept of being able to put more rounds down range in a shorter timeframe more effectively than your adversary is as old as the maxim machine gun. People generally don’t want to push on a person who can generally outperform them in a gun fight.
More rounds means you can more easily suppress, maneuver, provide covering fire, reload less often, and generally increase your chances of survival in a SHTF event. And in an environment where fully automatic weapons with 50+ rounds in a mag are becoming more common why would you not want to even the odds?
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u/PlayfulNorth3517 Jul 13 '25
Cops should probably carry frag grenades at this point. Honestly I think the idea of mortars should be at least discussed.
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u/noahtheboah36 Jul 13 '25
I support this because I argue anything cops have civilians should have.
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u/Probably_Boz Jul 13 '25
Cops are civilians homie
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u/noahtheboah36 Jul 13 '25
In terms of not being military yes but they often have access to lots of stuff civilians can't get.
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u/PlayfulNorth3517 Jul 13 '25
Mortars and grenades?
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u/noahtheboah36 Jul 13 '25
I'm half joking, though I do think cops and civilians should have flashbangs.
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u/Blakefilk Jul 13 '25
Lord posses a cop be prepared for whatever/whomever they may have to engage with
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u/PlayfulNorth3517 Jul 13 '25
I thought you were a leo for a bit but then I realized you’re a mallcop and this is all starting to make a bit more sense.
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u/BoysenberryFuture304 Ban Hammer 🔨 Jul 13 '25
You mean in the hood? I’ve never seen anyone with a fully auto drum magged rifle shoot at cops. They always have normal mags and normal rifles… da hood has all your flavors of stupid shit.
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u/Blakefilk Jul 13 '25
There’s been multiple cases of exactly this happening in the past couple of years. Automatic pistols with high capacity magazines are pretty common these days too.
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u/BoysenberryFuture304 Ban Hammer 🔨 Jul 13 '25
High capacity is a standard 30rd mag… in certain eyes.
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u/Blakefilk Jul 13 '25
A high capacity magazine is not a 30 round magazine for an AR
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u/BoysenberryFuture304 Ban Hammer 🔨 Jul 13 '25
I said certain people maybe not to you lol but sorry 10rds is high capacity
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u/Blakefilk Jul 13 '25
A high-capacity magazine (or large-capacity magazine) is a magazine capable of holding a higher than normal number of ammunition rounds for a particular firearm (i.e. more than in a standard magazine for that firearm)
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u/BoysenberryFuture304 Ban Hammer 🔨 Jul 13 '25
So 10rds
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u/Blakefilk Jul 13 '25
10 round mags are not standard for ARs or almost every other automatic firearm in the United States lmao.
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u/Speedhabit Jul 13 '25
I mean if anyone was to shoot at him I bet he would appreciate 60 more chances to get home
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u/Acceptable_Rutabaga3 Jul 13 '25
Honestly I haven't had any issues with my D60 since I got it when they first came out.
I have also seen a couple of the grunts I've worked with rocking D60s in the rifle and carrying more 30 mags on their kit, my guess is they were filling the Automatic rifleman billet.
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u/Applejaxc Jul 13 '25
The d-60 has not been reported as problematic. If I was in a job where I might have to jump out of my patrol car on an emergency call, I want to build in as many redundancies as possible that if my stupid ass gets into an adrenaline rush and the only thing I grab is my rifle (I don't take the extra second to grab however extra magazines are being prepped), I want a d-60 ready to go. Or as a distant second choice, one of those Scheismer whatever 60-round stick mags, if they're reliable.
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u/PaladinNate Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
Some people on this sub are odd.
Most people here are regular civilians who feel the need to spend hundreds or usually thousands of dollars on kit, equipment and weapons almost to the level of a special forces operative. Being people who aren’t ever likely to use their weapon in an actual engagement. And that’s considered perfectly fine and normal in this sub (which for the record is fine and I have no issue with)
But…
When a police officer who actually has a realistic chance of being in a gunfight, potentially with a civilian like those in this sub who have an equivalent AR platform, body armour, combat helmet etc, some people find it odd or bad that a police officer has this.
I don’t necessarily think officers would usually need drum mags, but if that officer feels like they need it, who cares? It’s just hypocritical that civilians dress up as wannabe special forces and the only action they’ll see is on Black Friday in Walmart, but they act like police carrying 60 rounds instead of 30 on their rifle is heinous and is completely un-necessary.
Ultimately, whether you are in the sands of Iraq or Afghanistan, or state side, a 5.56 round flying towards you has right of way and it doesn’t matter who is firing it, it will kill you all the same and the principles of winning a gun fight are universal. Having more rounds to put down range when it is seriously kicking off without having to reload isn’t really that crazy is it
For the record, I have no issues at all with civilians liking and enjoying kit, and being prepared, but let’s just not act like police don’t get into gunfights.
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u/Sharp_Low6787 Jul 13 '25
I mean honestly I could see just starting with the drum and reloading with 30s. Don't know if I'd bother, but if it works for him, great.
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u/PrestonHM Jul 13 '25
Remember – not having to relaod is always faster than reloading.
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u/oh_three_dum_dum Jul 14 '25
Unless your “D60” shits the bed at “D37” or something less than 60 as they’re sometimes known to do.
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u/_Nyktos_ Jul 13 '25
Some Dept's issue certain amount of ammo for duty use. After that is expended you then use ammo of your choice and your expense as long as a certain criteria is met (weight, type of bullet etc). So...with that being said, I do know of some officers running D60's because they are issued 60 rounds of carbine ammo. So if they are in a bind where a reload is needed, they don't have to worry about grabbing the correct reload of dept issued ammo in a bad situation. If the D60 is expended , anything else they grab is g2g.
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u/3hree0ero0eroBlk Jul 13 '25
I have never heard of any department doing this in my 14 years of experience...
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u/_Nyktos_ Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
Houston does this last I heard. As well as a few other surrounding depts
Edit: after double checking it's not HPD , I was thinking of Conroe PD
I can't post screenshots here but here's a copy and paste :
"When acting in an official capacity, either on-duty or off-duty with the expectation of taking enforcement action, personally owned shotguns and carbines/rifles will be loaded with duty ammunition supplied by the Department. Officers will utilize department supplied duty ammunition first in these weapons. If an officer exhausts their supply of department issued ammunition, they will use only ammunition that matches bullet type, weight, and grain as the department issued duty ammunition."
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u/oh_three_dum_dum Jul 14 '25
In a desperate situation a cop is going to do what they have to do regardless.
If I remember right, they basically raided a local gun store when they realized they were outgunned in the North Hollywood shootout. I don’t think anything big ever came of that for those involved.
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u/ANDY_FAST_HANDS Jul 13 '25
Does anyone here recommend coffin mags like the surefire ones?
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u/Aesculapius76 Jul 13 '25
I’ve got a couple different kinds for my AR and AK platforms. They’re cool and all, the surefires are fairly easy to load and they feed pretty reliably. The ACs I have for the AKs are a pain in the ass to load but otherwise ok. The extra weight is a factor and they are bulky. And a very minimal limited amount of placards or tacos available to carry an extra. I would like to try one in a SAW…
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u/Dr_Phil_McCrevice Jul 13 '25
I’ve heard it referred to as a first contact mag, and I get it, but reliability would be my main concern.
Why start the fight with a 20/30 rounder when you can catch your ops at their first reload this way?
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u/MrBriPod Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
The first few rounds neutralize the threat. The other 55+ ensure he's staying down.
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u/Bwycen Jul 13 '25
Zaslon, a Russian Special Operations group within the SVR, uses drums on their AKs. Their primary mission is embassy work in foreign countries. They use a drum as a sort of dump and get their guy off the X before switching to their 30rnd magazines. They also use 7.62x39 due to its prevalence in third world countries, in contrast to the rest of the Russian Military that primarily operated 5.45x39.
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u/LavishnessAdditional Jul 13 '25
only thing i can think of is reliability. if these are reliable mags, then go for it. my info is a decade old, but are drum mags bug free nowadays?
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u/HorrorLoan5569 Jul 13 '25
Probably fugitive or gang task force. Off subject, my father ran a folding stock “tactical” mini -14 back in his prime. He said it was easier to keep up with the gangbangers with modded / rigged personal weapons opposed to their issued rifle or shotgun. This mini-14 is probably my favorite gun and gift from him.
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u/redactedirishman Jul 13 '25
I cant knock this, imo it makes sense to have this be the primary thats in the gun ready to go, and then if by God's grace you dump all 60, just carry traditional 30 or even 40rd sticks on your rig to swap to.
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u/MRE_Milkshake Jul 14 '25
The Magpul D60 is pretty much the best drum out there, and works reliably, at least compared to other drum mags.
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u/oh_three_dum_dum Jul 14 '25 edited Jul 14 '25
Some departments are pretty lenient in what they allow their personnel to use.
Personally I wouldn’t trust a drum mag because most of them tend to have reliability problems from what I’ve seen. But if he knows that and accepts the risk it doesn’t really affect me, so I guess he can do what he wants. I’d test it pretty well before taking it for any kind of duty use though.
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u/stranger-named-clyde Jul 13 '25
I mean if you’re going to have a mag in the weapon to respond with might as well go big
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u/Active-Walk-6402 Jul 13 '25
Considering how prone US LEOs are towards magdumping this makes sense, somehow
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u/TheDavid80 Jul 13 '25
Disclamer: I have not been there nor done that.
But, Sounds like more weight than nessaray. If I have to potentially stand around for a couple of hours and say, hold perimeter and potentially only need a few shots. I will skip the extra couple pounds and make my shots count. Add to that I am civialey liable for every one I release into the wild. I want good marksman ship over volume of fire. But there's definitely a time and a place for it.
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Jul 14 '25
If it’s the first mag in the gun, why not? A cop isn’t wearing a full loaded rifle mag PC, belt, or chest rig.
Plus, if you test the mag and it feeds, then it’s an extra 30 rounds on your gun when you pick it up
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u/I_Be_Lurkin_ Jul 14 '25
Serious question. This vs two mag stack? Also any recommendations on a two mag coupler? Been wanting to up the capacity of a grab n go but a drum seems excessive and less reliable.
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u/oh_three_dum_dum Jul 14 '25
Stack, if anything. I prefer single magazines but I’m not against stacked singles either.
Don’t overthink it with the coupler. We used to used duct tape and spent brass.
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u/PornStache95 Jul 14 '25
I dont think drums are problematic. They are just bulky and cumbersome and tend to malfunction more often than not. Plus, they're not exactly easy to carry when it comes to spares.
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u/tramadoc US Coast Guard Jul 14 '25
He obviously doesn’t know about the inherent issues with those.
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u/Flat_Operation5007 Jul 14 '25
We drive durangos at my agency and my 10in suppressed rifle barely fits the gun rack with a standard 30rd mag. Drum mag would make it impossible to deploy quickly and I’m not even sure if I could fit it to begin with
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u/Sad_Children Jul 14 '25
Magpul drums are fine, they work great, just seems cumbersome and impractical when you are a police officer and can just openly carry spare mags on your chest
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u/baconbeerbewbs Jul 14 '25
The reason we’re rockin 30 rounders is because they make the most sense.
30 rounds per mag is a solid capacity. The size of the magazine is the right weight and size - anyone who’s setup Security on target or spent hours at a BP or on a call-out knows keeping your gun up smokes the dogpiss out of your shoulder. Empty mags need to be able to all fit in your dump pouch for reuse (the drum takes up too much space). It’s great for math reasons when doing LACE/ACE and cross loading and fits in everyone’s mag pouches. You can find them everywhere and they’re easy to take apart, clean, maintain, repair.
I’ve seen a few dudes rock a 40 rounder here and there but we all called the dude who showed up to the field problem with a drum that he was mentally handicapped and a euphemism for a bundle of sticks.
- prior infantry in 75th RR and 82nd.
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u/jpaul44 Jul 14 '25
Got to hang with some swat guys a while back and a couple of them were running the 40 round PMAGs over the d60s, but said that while the d60s weren’t bad it just didn’t “fit their needs.” Didn’t really ask any more into it, also I’m just a dumb firefighter that likes guns.
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u/dawkinsd37 Jul 17 '25
I’d prefer a d60 over an 40 round extended mag. Especially since its height is the same as a 30 round mag. Surprised they’re not more common
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u/_joe_momma1 Jul 19 '25
Who else is going to lay down fire at the sustained rate, 6-9rd burts, 1 burst every 6 seconds, talking guns with the other machine guns team, so the maneuver element can close with, and destroy the enemy?
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u/Shot-Hat1436 Jul 14 '25
How many rounds does this guy think hes gonna use? Silly. Makes the gun slower to bring up and youre not laying down supressive fire as a patrol cop. Good luck justifying that in court when someone catches a stray. Carrying 2 30 or 20 rounders is smarter since most reloads for a cop will be to clear malfunctions.
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u/SniffYoSocks907 Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
Secret Service Counter Assault Team has been spotted with D60s before, but that make somewhat sense consider their primary job is to get their principal out of a kill zone, probably no matter how many rounds get sent back towards threat(s). Magpul 40 rounders seem more and more common with Army SF and 75th RR nowadays as well.