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Politics This The New PBS?! Viral Kids Cartoon Teaches Slavery As ‘No Big Deal’, Company’s Co-Founder Wants To Indoctrinate Children With Right-Wing Ideology

https://bossip.com/3762710/prageru-slavery-video/
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u/Irishish 15h ago

Recall that Columbus was considered so brutal by his own contemporaries that at one point he was sent back to Spain in chains.

Well. While you can. Prager would rather nobody ever know that.

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u/MyGrandmasCock 11h ago

“You mean he was brought back a hero in chains because Spain was infected by the woke virus!”—Dennis Prager

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u/redpandaeater 8h ago

More like syphilis than a virus.

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u/asianwaste 9h ago edited 9h ago

Well, he was considered brutal by his contemporaries because he was brutal to both natives and contemporaries in equal measure. Compare that to the more common behavior of treating natives as cattle and Europeans get away with anything.

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u/HamunaHamunaHamuna 2h ago

Oh yeah, most everyday European people famously could commit any crime they wanted without facing punishment during the entire centuries of serfdom and no civil rights, under the whims of absolute nobility.

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u/Imperius_Maximus 17h ago

It will only come to an end once we finally decide that we have had enough and literally cut the cables and power to companies like Fox News and Prager U.

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u/GoldandBlue 15h ago

It will end when there are consequences. Who went to jail after the great recession? For lying about iraq? Who went to jail for January 6th? And I am specifically talking about the people who created these situations.

If the democrats win back congress and the white house, there needs to be consequences. But the establishment block of the democrats keep insisting that holding politicians accountable is "too political".

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u/Fun_Hold4859 6h ago

Who went to jail after the great recession?

One brown guy. Seriously.

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u/voiderest 16h ago

They have Prager U on cable? I thought is was still a weirdo online thing cranks make their kids watch instead of pokemon.

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u/ARedditorCalledQuest 15h ago

According to the article they're in the schools now in a few states.

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u/Snerkbot7000 14h ago

Just guessing before I look it up: Oklahoma, Missouri, Alabama?

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u/11bulletcatcher 16h ago

I guess you are just learning about the GOP push to replace PBS with Prager then

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u/Khaldara 15h ago

“Prager U: We’re number one with pedophiles and pedophile enthusiasts. Just leave your kids with us!”

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u/KR4T0S 16h ago

The far right have had an axe to grind against PBS and NPR for years, even decades. Looks like they weren't merely trying to shut them down but also replace them with more "suitable" programming.

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u/acepiloto 16h ago

Because reality is too woke, and they need to control the narrative.

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u/grandlizardo 15h ago

Don’t know of a better way to get black families to sit down with their kids and tell them the bitter truth… you want to start something, this is the way…

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u/Mike_Kermin 15h ago

Oh look, education and the spread of information is absolutely critical to how people think and see the world. I agree but, this will affect everyone, even victims of it.

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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 16h ago

Media literacy doesn’t align with the agenda of media manipulators

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u/aghhhhhhhhhhhhhh 16h ago

Piggybacking to say the ceo of Prager U Dennis Prager thinks incest is pretty okay

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u/NK1337 16h ago

To be fair what he really loves is grooming, incest just makes it easier

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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 16h ago

It’s always been about power.

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u/Paranitis 16h ago

I mean, the Bible seems to agree with that statement.

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u/Spikeintheroad 15h ago

He's also A-Ok with serial assault against your wife.

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u/stmakwan 15h ago

Also if Dennis Prager doesn’t think being a slave wasn’t terrible then he should try being one himself.

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u/we_are_sex_bobomb 16h ago

I remember as a kid my parents dragged me to all these young earth creationism seminars and the whole time even at 9-10 years old it all reeked of bullshit. But it still took until midway through college for me to finally feel like I was allowed to say it out loud and break free from that kind of thinking.

Indoctrination is itself another form of slavery, it’s a prison for the mind. Absolutely detestable what these people are doing.

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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 15h ago

It is absolutely indoctrination. I see what you went through and I get it.

We rely on each other to know what we’re capable of as a humanity wired for diversity. To take away someone’s freedom to know themselves is to almost take away their life. How can you even be a self-sufficient agent in control of your own fate and destiny with boots on your neck? How do we as the huddled masses begin to breathe free in a state of oppression like that?

This is industrializing cruelty in ways that escape my understanding. It’s one thing to not know, and it’s another to embrace it after knowing. Simply: lawnmowers.

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u/Fraternal_Mango 16h ago

Bold of you to think the ppl in charge will step back from this ledge…

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u/Important-Agent2584 14h ago

You got it all backwards, they are just trying to reverse the "slavery bad" leftist indoctrination. We know it's not because the Bible says it's the will of God.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.

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u/LostBob 17h ago

““Being taken as a slave is better than being killed, no? Before you judge, you must ask yourself, ‘What did the culture and the society of the time treat as no big deal?’””

Brought to you by the same people who say morality is absolute and handed down by God.

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u/Gastroid 16h ago

I love how that "no big deal" is coming from Christopher Columbus, who was stripped of his nobility and governorship due to his extreme depraved cruelty towards slaves. Being taken as a slave by him, even amongst his contemporary peers, was seen as worse than death.

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u/GeneralZex 16h ago

It should shock everyone that his behavior was so abhorrent that the people of his day found it unacceptable and held him accountable for it.

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u/Crommach 12h ago

Let's have none of that woke "historical fact", in this house regime Christopher Columbus was a hero, end of story!

/s, because we're in a hellworld

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u/odaeyss 15h ago

Chris liked em around 12ish

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u/JakToTheReddit 12h ago

Also, he definitely fucked at least one manatee.

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u/come_on_seth 11h ago

To be fair, with enough seaweed and fog….

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u/Surrounded-by_Idiots 13h ago

“held him accountable”

The REAL injustice of slavery.

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u/FluxUniversity 12h ago

why/how did he get elevated to have a "day" in the u.s.? what revisionist history were that generation raised on to get a 'day' named after him?

what revisionist history are we being subjected to today?

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u/ThVos 12h ago

Italian Americans (namely the Catholic organization, the Knights of Columbus) lobbied hard for it in the early 20th century, as a way to recognize Italian heritage in the USA as part of a broader push for people to start thinking about Italians as 'white'. It's a whole thing.

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u/wrosecrans 11h ago

And very important to note that while Columbus was from Genoa in modern day Italy, there was no unified Italy in his time, and he was sailing for a just-barely unified Spain. Columbus wouldn't particularly have referred to himself as "Italian" and his expedition was not Italian.

Italian Americans just wanted to retcon history to give themselves a place in American history as a way to mitigate some of the racism against them in the 20th century and they were trying to retroactively invent a coherent unified Italian identity that absolutely didn't actually go back that far. Italian dialects were barely mutually intelligible if you go back far enough and "Italy" was just a general geographical region like Scandinavia or Iberia.

But you put statues of a guy everywhere and demand that kids get taught how great your guy was, and give everybody a fun time on his holiday, and suddenly you are bragging about getting here first, etc.

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u/Gunplagood 11h ago

Rhe Knights of Columbus

AKA Discount Free Masons.

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u/RudeMorgue 11h ago

How can you get more discount than free?

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u/Gunplagood 11h ago

By being Catholic 😆

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u/SecretAgentVampire 8h ago

The Knights of Columbus are still around! Over near Ann Arbir Michigan, I saw an infestation of them protesting Planned Parenthood. So I pulled over and started asking the teens there questions, like "Why are you protesting planned parenthood?", "Do you know what Planned Parenthood does? Let's find out. [Goes onto the Planned Parenthood website on my phone to show them]", etc.

One of the middle-aged, balding, scrawny dad's started yelling at me to leave. Apparently they dont like it when people actually look at things or ask questions, because they want to pretend that their authority is absolute and that they have a higher power on their side. One tried to lay hands on me to get God to forgive me, because apparently asking questions and doing research is a sin.

The existence of the Knights of Columbus makes me wish for the existance of Hell.

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u/enaK66 12h ago

The efforts of many Italians living in the United States.

From wiki:

"In 1966, Mariano A. Lucca, from Buffalo, New York, founded the National Columbus Day Committee, which lobbied to make Columbus Day a federal holiday.[21] These efforts were successful and legislation to create Columbus Day as a federal holiday was signed by President Lyndon Johnson on June 28, 1968, to be effective beginning in 1971."

The wiki mentions like 5 other times before this when Italians tried to make Columbus Day a thing. I guess a lot of Italians living here back in the day really liked that one of them "discovered" America.

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u/Anotsurei 12h ago

It was so that Americans would stop discriminating against Italian people. The myth was created that he actually “discovered” America and to continue to malign Italian people would be the same as saying that America - which was discovered by an Italian - wasn’t white. So they made a day after him and Italians joined the ranks of those considered “white” in America.

American history is full of similar cases.

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u/Professional-Trash-3 14h ago

And there were literally pleas to the Pope in the 1500s to end the enslavement of the native populations in the New World. People have always known it's a disgusting and evil practice, but it wasn't until the modern era where the people had enough authority to actually effect change and stop it.

Also, this is the country founded on the rallying cry "Give me liberty or give me death," isnt it? How transparent can they be

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u/Slykarmacooper 8h ago

Partially due to Columbus intentionally hindering Christian missionaries in to convert the locals; at the time it was socially acceptable to enslave non-christians, so Columbus argued the only way to ensure he could continue enslaving, raping, and exploiting to death the natives was to keep them pagan, ergo 'justifying' their fate.

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u/Professional-Trash-3 10h ago

"Taxes are worse than slavery" is some bullshit PragerU would spin

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u/Saxopwned 14h ago

the guy slavery'd so hard he ended up exterminating the entire native population of Hispaniola (now Haiti/DR) inventing the basis of American chattel slavery, and now he's the face of "slavery wasn't half bad, kids"

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u/Deto 11h ago

This is the problem with pragerU. They present themselves as being this reasonable voice and in many cases they don't lie and what they say/argue makes sense but only if you ignore all of the glaring information they omit.    It's like taking a photograph and just cutting pieces out of it until eventually what is left supports your version of things.  And the problem is that the people who are generally ignorant of this stuff eat it up because they don't know what's missing.

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u/IWasOnThe18thHole 13h ago

This could've all been avoided if we called it Amerigo Vespucci day

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u/TeaKingMac 12h ago

Amerigo doesn't sound white. Christopher does

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u/impatientlymerde 10h ago

Cristobal Colon.

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u/iconocrastinaor 8h ago

Listen, we got lucky. The continent almost got called Columbia

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u/Purpleguy1980 16h ago

What the hell does that even mean?

Being exploited and abused and losing personal freedom is still a horrible situation.

We have written accounts of slaves in the past describing their terrible experiences. From the Mediterranean to the Americas.

Also the whole "it was considered okay/not a big deal in the past" is not a good argument. Just because something in the past was considered "not a big deal" it does not mean it is good. You know what else was considered "not a big deal" in the past? Human sacrifices. Burning people alive and nailing people crosses.

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u/Talisa87 15h ago

And then there's their Frederick Douglass video, in which their version said slavery was 'a compromise' and actually not all slaves were treated badly.

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u/Anotsurei 12h ago

I hate that one even more because they lie about what he said to make America look like a good place. The truth is the very quote they cherry picked is from a speech where he decries the lies that America tells itself and others that they believe all men are equal. It’s literally the very next line after the quote.

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u/xinorez1 11h ago

I will say the one good thing about this crap is the outrage it generates lets us learn more about actual history than is usually taught or remembered.

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u/Braidaney 15h ago

Also there were people calling the practice evil, and trying to put an end to it back then. Like Bartolomé de las Casas. Who fought against slavery and colonialism in South America.

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u/illegible 15h ago

Don't forget John Brown, hardcore Christian abolitionist.

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u/Durpulous 15h ago

I think whoever wrote this is thinking of it from the enslaver's perspective and not the enslaved's perspective, like that's the "default".

No shit the enslavers would have thought it was no big deal, the point is that nowadays we should be better and so consider the enslaved's perspective who will obviously very much think it's a big deal.

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u/Boowray 13h ago

The slavers also thought it was a “big deal”, there were plenty of founding fathers and hundreds of random plantation owners who wrote to the evils and abomination of slavery while owning slaves but were simply too greedy to ever consider changing their ways.

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u/KrytenKoro 15h ago

Just because something in the past was considered "not a big deal"

It's also only considered not a big deal if you don't consider the slaves to be people with opinions that should be heard

Ie, the way prager thinks.

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u/DarkDuskBlade 13h ago

I love how they present it as those are the only two options the slavers had. According to this, it was either enslave or kill (not, you know, do jack shit and just let people live).

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u/ImperfectRegulator 15h ago

The line “look at the culture and society” at the time might have the slightest of points when it comes to looking at historical context and not judging people by modern standards

Except you know it’s being said by Christopher Columbus the guy who even in his own time was seen as a fucked up monstrous piece of shit.

These chuds always do this, they try to frame their fucked up shitty arguments in a way that makes them seem to be moral superior and above it all by inserting reasonable takes, surrounded by a whole bunch of hateful shit. So when they’re called out on it they can play the ignorance/innocent card by referring back to the one tiny sane part

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u/IllllIIlIllIllllIIIl 15h ago

Yes, he was literally arrested and brought back to Spain in chains for his brutal treatment of indigenous people. Queen Isabella was critical of how he enslaved them, saying that she had intended for them to be converted to Christianity, not treated as chattel.

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u/TheCaptainDamnIt 14h ago

Always find it telling how the 'culture at the time' people all strangely seems to think that the only people 'of the time' that you can use to gauge the culture are the racist white slaveowners and no one else.

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u/LordMimsyPorpington 13h ago

My favorite part of the video is Columbus going from, "You can't use your modern sensibilities to judge centuries old systems from the past," to, "Yea, those natives were practicing old traditions we didn't agree with, so we locked them in chains" in the same breath.

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u/sw00pr 12h ago

False dichotomy. They love that shit. "We're not terrible, therefore we're good".

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u/maskaddict 11h ago

They're taking exactly the wrong lesson from the idea of looking at the culture and society of the time. 

Instead of concluding we can't judge people harshly for accepting slavery, people should be learning to ask: "does this mean there might be things happening in our time that seem normal and fine to us, but are actually horrible and monstrous? What are the values and practices we accept today that people 200 years from now will judge us for?"

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u/KrytenKoro 15h ago

And in the "same breath*, these dishonest fuckers justify the mutilation and slavery by complaining about the cultural practices of the natives.

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u/UnTides 14h ago

Being taken as a slave is better than being killed, no

Right wingers thrive on making blatantly false generalizations and expecting their opposition to do the hard work of debunking...

For the trans-Atlantic slave trade that's completely irrelevant. The slaves were mostly bought by Europeans from African Slavers at market, not captured in any war that Europeans were engaged with in Africa. Of course some slaves were also captured violently in the Americas, etc. But that doesn't mean it was the only option either to kill or enslave them, especially for women and children who were abducted but no military threat.

These right wing lies need to be de-platformed

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u/Derp_Herpson 10h ago

Also, in the US at least, the vast majority of enslaved people were born into and lived it their whole lives. This narrative posits that the individuals got to live at least some of their life spans as free people before being captured into slavery, another blatant falsehood.

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u/Mazon_Del 14h ago

The only reason being taken as a slave is better then being killed, is it gives you an opportunity to kill your slaver and escape. That's all slave owners deserve.

In ALL other respects, it's worse.

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u/haidere36 13h ago

Before you judge, you must ask yourself, ‘What did the culture and the society of the time treat as no big deal?’

This is called moral relativism, and I proudly fucking despise it. The idea that a culture is above criticism because it has established something as "normal" is ludicrous, and that includes American culture. The most robust argument against it I can think of is that no culture is a monolith, there are always people who disagree with whatever the majority in their culture believe is acceptable or unacceptable, and cultural morals shift because the minority of people who believe something is right or wrong gradually grow into the majority and it shifts what that culture perceives as normal.

The only people who shouldn't judge cultures throughout history are historians, whose literal job is to present history as it was and not as we wish it was or perceive it to be from a modern standpoint. For everyone else, I see no good reason why we shouldn't judge people who lived historically.

They had a choice. The same way people alive today have a choice. Anyone suggesting otherwise wants to be absolved of moral responsibility, and no good can come of that.

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u/RollingMeteors 11h ago

The idea that a culture is above criticism because it has established something as "normal" is ludicrous, and that includes American culture.

¡only if you include religion! Eg: circumcision Vs the world outcry on Japan’s whaling…

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u/roygbivasaur 10h ago edited 9h ago

It’s also an attempt to go backwards.

Use propaganda and religion to convince the majority that something is moral as long as the culture says it’s ok -> use propaganda and religion to convince the majority that the culture says <slavery, genocide, ethnic cleansing, genocide of queer people, servitude of women, racism, antisemitism, anti-Arab sentiment/Islamophobia> is ok -> the majority now accepts it as ok.

It’s actively happening right in front of us. We’re letting them impose their own false reality and bankrupt moral system on us even more than they already had.

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u/Yrths 15h ago

Funnily, it is being said by Christopher Columbus. I would think an accurate depiction should at least occasionally say something in that ballpark.

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u/whutupmydude 11h ago

They were going out of their way to source people as slaves. With the absence of demand for slaves am I to believe they were just going to go in and kill these folks?

Also many captives jumped off ships to drown in anticipation of slavery, so the premise of Columbus’ attempt at rhetoric isn’t even a given.

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u/RecipeFunny2154 14h ago

I like the two options too. Well, if you’re not gonna be a slave, you’re just gonna be murdered! Isn’t that so kind of me to offer?

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u/WithoutTheWaffle 11h ago

Yeah, it was really not uncommon for enslaved people to jump off the boat, choosing death by drowning over a life of slavery...

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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 17h ago edited 17h ago

A right-wing nonprofit media company

I would just call it Dennis Prager being upset he’s not rich enough to compensate with a rocket.

For people who weren’t in the online politics space until recently, you may have not seen how many of their videos were targeted and sowing historical revisionism for young boys on gaming channels. They rode the Pewdiepie-WSJ conflict all the way.

PragerU is PredatorU as far as I think. I barely even blame those young men for falling down these rabbit holes, because those videos told them nonstop “the patriarchy was never real and they criticize it because they hate you.”

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u/OhGre8t 17h ago

Predatory is the keyword here.

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u/Runkleford 16h ago

If there are people who still not sure how clownish PragerU is, they actively call evolution fake and they teach creationism. This is the backwards shit that conservatism is trying to lead us back to.

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u/terivia 13h ago

I call it what it is: The Republican party platform.

At this point "conservative" is a dog whistle for a party that wants to change everything to roll back the progress of the last X years, where X is typically at least 60 or more depending on how racist they're feeling that day.

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u/Polemic-Personified 13h ago

It's insane. I was involved in republican politics until about 20 years ago while I was still young. Family influence as well as active political campaigns in town. There were people who operated on principles. Granted, the principles they operated on are not ones I agree with, but still, there was coherence and I think they truly believed they were making good choices.

For context, this was in NJ, which had historically had a republican party that was not concerned with social conservatism and even had a fairly normal view of environmental protection for the beginning of the century. Then the obvious happened. Once could see that things started shifting around the beginning of the Bush admin. I had left any engagement with their politics around that time, but by the arrival of Obama, things were already completely broken by the 40 years of the "Southern Strategy," which in no way was limited to the South.

Now, the US has a party built on the types of divides that have started revolutions in the past, except their divisions are fictitious or, in my mind, illegitimate and inhumane. We've set ourself up for a continent-wide Cambodia in the name of Supply-Side Jesus. The Republican party, voters included sadly, isn't a political organization any more. It's a nation wide terrorist organization that is waiting for activation.

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u/FluxUniversity 12h ago

which is just the will of the 1%. The X years they are pushing for is before the new deal. They are re-creating the robber baron divide through inflation and complete domination of ownership.

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u/Zelcron 16h ago

How Gamergate foreshadowed the toxic hellscape that the internet has now become | CNN https://share.google/4J3BwUMXX38pfjNL3

“You can activate that army,” [Steve] Bannon told Bloomberg reporter Joshua Green in 2017. “They come in through Gamergate or whatever and then get turned onto politics and Trump.”

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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 16h ago

Jedi, Anakin, Palpatine.

I firmly believe MAGA can be explained by Bannon astroturfing Trump and the angry young men online who had real worries about globalism. Gamergate unleashed a kind of hateful anti-Pandora’s box for types like him who aren’t actually just lashing out, but want young men like this:

https://youtube.com/shorts/s_j-J0mmUt0

And for the record, I still have no idea how Dems missed something like this. Bannon can’t help but be honest and take pride when he’s talking about how he turned yesterday’s gamers into Nazi theoreticians. He’s correct that they were slow and lazy to see the crisis within masculinity and the right exploited it.

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u/dphoenix1 12h ago

Was there ever an opportunity for the left to exploit this crisis? It’s easy to see how the right could engineer this to their advantage, but I have yet to see anyone describe a reasonable playbook on how the left could have defended against it, apart from going back decades and changing their whole approach.

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u/ZMowlcher 13h ago edited 11h ago

Dems are ran by geriatrics courting their corporate overlords. Gamergate was one of the most devastating periods in online culture and, iirc, the dems blew it off. It was such an easy thing to get swept up in that even I almost became a chud. I have good friends that snapped me back to reality even after I had said hurtful things. I imagine we're at this point cause many didn't have friends like mine.p

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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 12h ago

If I wasn’t dating someone who explained her sexual assaults to me, I would’ve so easily fallen into a bad pipeline.

I get it, like maybe I did always have this empathy in me and I would’ve found someone who explained something that walked me out.

But it really worries me that a lot of young boys might not. It can really just snap you out of that right-wing anger to have someone ask “hey what are you upset about?” and that’s all it takes to trip their propaganda and narrative.

It’s not an excuse but Jesus we fumble the easiest bags here bringing them back from the right.

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u/ZMowlcher 12h ago

I remember being really insecure at the time. You get some charismatic devil validating your anger instead of discussing why, you instantly have a loyal chud. The loss of forums and shift into private groups really was the deathknell.

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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 11h ago

I visualize it as a “charismatic devil” so often too, and the insecurity underlied it well. Still does sometimes, if I’m really honest and can even see it looks goofy now.

The makers of God of War (something that was really a part of that culture in my neck of the woods at the time) mentioned that they saw many young boys not realize how the result of acting on every angry impulse was a really devastating environmental catastrophe. Kill Poseidon, the world floods. Kill Helios, the Sun is gone.

If you went on the private groups back then, it was so often people celebrating random destruction in ways that start as a meme but then stop being one. Deathknell is how I would describe it too.

Sure, you can tap that in a senseless rage towards everyone around you, but it’s not going to make you better for your kids. It’s not going to make you a man or a father or a defender of things that matter. You don’t even have to dislike yourself for being angry. Hell yeah I want you angry if Nazis are at the door. But it can’t be senseless temptations and impulsivity.

Forums kept some kind of public place alive that a professional could sometimes drop a different perspective into a bunch of people’s social circles. Losing that really lost us those entire people.

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u/-The_Blazer- 7h ago

Yeah it's insane that the far-right perfected Soviet-tier psyop techniques in like 2016, and the rest of the entire world just hasn't responded yet.

Now mind you, I'm not sure if anyone would like the more pragmatic responses, but still.

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u/xSaviorself 11h ago

Democrats didn't miss a thing, frankly I'm not quite sure most in government are in touch enough to understand this stuff at all. This is what happens when leadership is weak and doesn't have strategy on their side: you lose the battle of attrition. The only people who really understand this are the current Republican strategists, and this is all because of Bannon and Miller.

Democrats have 2 problems, the first being single-issue non-voters are far more consequential that single-issue voters, and that the majority of Democrats are single-issue non-voters. This is especially true of young people. The second problem they have is that they too benefit from this absurdity. Remember that most Democrats are more like Joe Manchin than they are AOC.

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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 10h ago

Bannon knew that centralized power is complacent power. Giants who don’t notice the thousandth paper cut. They will always lose the battle of attrition and it’s like talking to the cast of Veep to get them to reco-

oh they unironically campaigned on that my bad

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u/haliblix 12h ago

Gamergate unleashed a kind of hateful anti-Pandora’s box

Imagine creating a game about depression and its debilitating effects and the reaction to it is the fall of the American Empire.

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u/thatirishguyyyyy 12h ago

My ex roommate. 

He is full on conservative now, but won't even go to church or open a Bible. 

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u/Polkawillneverdie17 16h ago

We should only refer to it as PedatorU from now on.

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u/prot0mega 13h ago

Bet some of their audiences will think it sounds cool...

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u/MikeyBugs 13h ago

I actually downloaded and listened to a PragerU series on World War II history. Needless to say the revisionism was rampant and there was some definite glossing over of topics. I don't have the entire course on my phone anymore but I don't even recall if they went over the Japanese internment. Thankfully it was free or I wouldn't have downloaded it.

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u/FluxUniversity 12h ago

it was free because they want everyone to see it. its free because its toxic. its free because thats the agenda. i am not thankful that its free

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u/frommethodtomadness 17h ago

Wait, they always like to cite how Lincoln was a Republican as a way to soften their extremism though. Do they not actually think Lincoln was good or something?

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u/BuzzBadpants 17h ago

They do not have any real beliefs beyond what helps them politically in the moment

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u/chrisk9 15h ago

Disingenuous right wingers make me think of the quote:

"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

-Jean-Paul Sartre

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u/RudeMorgue 11h ago

And when they sense you're about to expose them as the imbecile hypocrites they are, they use their get-out-of-jail-free card, "I'm tired of talking about politics."

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u/PhazonZim 13h ago

Yep. They're bad faith actors on purpose

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u/FluxUniversity 11h ago

Which there needs to be zero tolerance of in these discussions.

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u/tevert 13h ago

^ the goal is being right and taking power, and facts/arguments/beliefs are just tools to be picked and put down as needed

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u/JiminyJilickers-79 13h ago

This, 100% Most of what they say is very disingenuous and just what they think will help them get what they want. Though they are definitely getting increasingly brazen.

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u/AmputeeHandModel 16h ago

Don't try to teach them about the Southern Strategy and swapping of party ideologies. But.. they're the ones flying the Confederate flag???

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u/sir_alvarex 16h ago

Claiming Lincoln and the Confederacy is a type of cognitive dissonance I'll never understand.

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u/slipperyMonkey07 13h ago

It just comes down to they will say whatever fits their current narrative. They treat anything they say as isolated from anything else they have ever said if it benefits in the current moment.

If in the morning saying strawberries are red benefits them they will say it, but if something changes in the afternoon and it would benefit them to say strawberries are purple they will.

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u/vellyr 13h ago

It's ok, they don't either

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u/SwordfishOfDamocles 15h ago

My response is always, if you like Lincoln and you need a statue to remember the civil war then you should support replacing all Confederate statues with Lincoln. Sounds like a win/win.

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u/im-ba 16h ago

Facts and logical reasoning are unimportant to them and have been for decades. The anti-intellectualist movement started spreading all over the rural US in the 1980's and nobody bothered to shut it down. Now the cancer has spread to every layer of society, and no amount of reasoning with them will help because they scorn intelligence and critical thinking and those who possess it.

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u/SantosL 17h ago

This is actual indoctrination that the maga cult has been screeching about, but they’re a-ok with it. It’s always been projection and as a society we need to stop being tolerant to completely inauthentic “outrage” from these cultists.

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u/themagicone222 15h ago edited 9h ago

Fake outrage, misinformation, blind obedience extreme cruelty, and accusing others of their own sins. These vermin are incapable of anything else.

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u/PTS_Dreaming 16h ago

For those of us who haven't connected the dots yet, southern conservatism is based on southern evangelicalism which is simply an attempt to find divine justification for white supremacy.

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u/Cognac_and_swishers 15h ago

The reason Southern Baptists exist as a separate denomination from the rest of the Baptists is because they were the pro-slavery faction of the Baptist church that broke away 16 years before the start of the Civil War when the northern Baptists started being mildly abolitionist.

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u/erebus49 16h ago

Voting for Projects 2025 brings you Projects 2025, who would have thought...

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u/qazwec 17h ago

Donate to pbs

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u/rcreveli 17h ago

I happily cancelled Paramount and moved the money to NPR/PBS.

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u/Hyperious3 12h ago

Not even a second thought considering how ass-garbage Paramounts streaming offerings are.

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u/No-Body6215 13h ago

Doubled my monthly donation since they were defunded.

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u/fastcatdog 17h ago

Slavery was fun and cool, on the job training with free room and board. WTF?

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u/Pitiful_Option_108 16h ago

You just have to ignore the long work hours in the sun, your wife and children being sold off at anytime, you or your wife being raped just because, oh also can't forget the beatings and whippings. But yeah it wasnt that bad. 

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u/Vio_ 16h ago

Also forced castration, medical torture, mutilation, forced to do hard labor until death (and I mean that same day), farming by hand, cotton picking by hand, brandings, not being allowed to marry, being sold by your own family members, and so on.

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u/randynumbergenerator 15h ago

Also don't forget the field of gynecology was literally built on torture of enslaved women. Meanwhile today, Black women in the US have the worst maternal mortality outcomes.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/17/603163394/-father-of-gynecology-who-experimented-on-slaves-no-longer-on-pedestal-in-nyc

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u/Vio_ 14h ago

That's the one I was referencing with medical torture.

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u/Stargazer1919 16h ago

And the whole thing of owning another human being as property... yeah let's just ignore that part... /s

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u/PandaJesus 13h ago

It could always have been worse for the slaves, like if they had a female leader who laughed kind of funny, or if there was a trans woman who wanted to exist in public near them.

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u/polskiftw 12h ago

Fry: “You know what the worst thing about being a slave is? They make you work all day but they don’t pay you or let you go.” Leela: “That’s the only thing about being a slave.” Fry: “You know what else sucks about being a slave? The hours.”

-Futurama

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u/Kioskwar 16h ago edited 16h ago

“See how the slaves have smiles on their faces? That’s because they’re gainfully employed and contributing to the economy!”

Edit: “Besides, the only other option (we gave them) was death. They’re better off this way.”

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u/Bakoro 15h ago

These pieces of shit are literally trying to bring us back to chattel slavery.

The U.S needs to treat slavery and Confederates same way Germany treats Holocaust denial and Nazis.

You shouldn't be free to scream "fire" in a crowded building when there is no fire, and you shouldn't be able to say that slavery was/is no big deal.

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u/Alternative-Target31 11h ago

Anyone who reads this and thinks “no they’re not”, I urge you to think about how many times it was said that Trump wanted to do things that sounded impossible and how many of those are happening right now. Like the military taking over cities.

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u/radioactivecat 11h ago

These people constantly talk about kids being indoctrinated because that’s literally the only way you make a conservative. People who get actually educated about the world tend to skew left.

Fuck prager and fuck orange hitler. .

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u/bluemaciz 17h ago

That is fucking insane

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u/so2017 13h ago

If you want to create a new slave class, you start by saying “everything you thought you knew about slavery is wrong!”

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u/BennyWithoutJets 17h ago

They 👏🏼 want 👏🏼 to 👏🏼 bring 👏🏼 it 👏🏼 back!!

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u/TheCaptainDamnIt 14h ago

'Illegal immigrants are taking black jobs'- Trump

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u/Conscious-Fortune-35 16h ago

13th Amendment is literally just slavery with more steps. It never left. 

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u/Echo_one 13h ago

What they're saying is that they are trying to take the extra steps away.

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u/Vesuvia36 16h ago

My thoughts exactly, all this is to bring it back and not have the newer generations knowing how wrong it is. ugh

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u/OkDentist4059 11h ago

being taken as a slave is better than being killed, no?

Why are those the only two options

why are those the only two options

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u/RachelRegina 17h ago

Kill it. Kill it with fire. Again. r/shermanposting

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u/Aezetyr 14h ago

PragerU is one of the more sickening organizations in the USA. All they do is teach how to hate.

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u/surviving606 14h ago

They are coming to nazify your children. Hitler Youth were trained to turn in their parents if they said something bad about the regime. 

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u/Orwells_Roses 16h ago

Prager Youth. It won’t be long now until the armbands come out.

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u/Patara 9h ago

Perverting history with revisionism is a major bad guy trademark. Which is completely on brand for Prager.

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u/Strong-Raccoon-7088 17h ago

Well maybe should suggest enslaving their children if it’s not that bad. They can even come visit there kids which is even better conditions than the first go at slavery!

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u/DualActiveBridgeLLC 17h ago

Sorry to tell you this, but American Conservatism promotes the idea that their children are their personal slaves. That's what the 'Parental Choice' movement and Mom's For Liberty were promoting.

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u/HiddenVelvet 17h ago

Oh they will in a sense by undoing child labor laws.

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u/DippyHippy420 16h ago edited 14h ago

PragerU was founded in 2009 by conservative radio talk show host Dennis Prager.

PragerU has been largely funded by the ultra-religious Wilks brothers, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation and the Marcus Foundation

In 2020, PragerU received $704,057 in COVID-19 relief loans from the Paycheck Protection Program; this debt was later forgiven in full.

PragerU promotes fossil fuels while criticizing the use of renewable energy and disputing the scientific consensus on climate change.

In November 2023, PragerU released Detrans: The Dangers of Gender-Affirming Care. The short film was launched with a $1 million marketing campaign. It was condemned by the president of the Human Rights Campaign who called it "hate-filled propaganda".

PragerU held a fundraising event at Mar-a-Lago raising 2.9 Million, of which
Trump was paid 1.1 million for hosting the gala.

On June 25, 2025, PragerU launched a "Founders Museum" exhibit at the White House

  • Minimum Wage: PragerU opposes raising the minimum wage.
  • Gun Control: They oppose gun control measures.
  • Electoral College: They defend the Electoral College as a safeguard against potential voter fraud.
  • "Meaningless Buzzwords": They have dismissed terms like racism, bigotry, xenophobia, homophobia, and Islamophobia as meaningless buzzwords.

Pardon for Dinesh D'Souza: In 2018, Trump pardoned conservative commentator Dinesh D'Souza, who pleaded guilty in 2014 to an illegal campaign contribution charge.

Right-wing luminaries such as Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, and Ben Shapiro have made appearances in its videos.

Dennis Prager himself admitted that his organization is in the business of indoctrination. While speaking at a Moms for Liberty conference in 2023, Prager said, “It’s true that we [PragerU] bring doctrines to children. But what is the bad thing about our indoctrination?”

According to PragerU, white men put an end to slavery and slave owners were almost without exception Democrats. One video features a cartoon version of Christopher Columbus telling kids that, while slavery might not be great, “being taken as a slave is better than being killed.” Another tells students that one of the most important things kids “need to know” about slavery is that “White men led the world in putting an end to the abhorrent practice.”

PragerU content has been approved for use in public schools in 10 states.

With Congress yanking federal funding for public media, PragerU clearly wants to fill in the gap where PBS educational programs have traditionally thrived. In its 2022 annual report, PragerU proclaimed that they were committed to going “toe-to-toe with massive youth media companies like PBS Kids and Disney.”

I look for Trump to redirect all of that PBS money to PragerU and start force feeding public school children this trash in all states very soon.

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u/InterestingDamage621 14h ago

"Being taken a slave is better than being killed, no?"

I was thinking about some other potential ideas, like perhaps let's NOT MURDER OR ENSLAVE ANYONE?

The video sure doesn't discuss WHY those were the only two options.

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u/Protect-Their-Smiles 5h ago

MAGA: THEY ARE PUSHING THEIR POLITICS ON LITTLE KIDS!

also MAGA:

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u/Acrobatic_Screen1400 15h ago

Anyone who says slavery is not a big deal should be sentenced to slavery. Starting with the President although I suspect he is already Putin’s slave.

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u/Ok_Value5495 15h ago edited 14h ago

Ah, the one where only the slaver gets to present his point of view and speaks for the hopes and desires of his victims.

JFC. We're normalizing slavery, aren't we?

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u/OmegaGoober 15h ago

You have to normalize it to bring it back.

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u/BooBeeAttack 16h ago

Big Bird would be very disappointed at this shit, and the people doing it.

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u/weezmeister808 14h ago

Mr Rogers is rolling in his grave.

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u/Nima-night 16h ago

Give it a few years they will bring slavery back to give people a new start

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u/sec713 15h ago

Remember when they lied their asses off about being against child grooming?

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u/dao_ofdraw 14h ago

I'm convinced that "own the libs" literally means owning democrats. Turning half the country into a slave class. 

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u/moistsandwich 12h ago

What the fuck does this have to do with technology?

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u/Saint909 12h ago

Everything they accuse democrats of doing is exactly what they are proceeding with.

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u/E-2theRescue 11h ago

Conservatives: "We're not racists!"

Also, conservatives: "OK. Here's how torturing, raping, and murdering black people wasn't that big of a deal."

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u/jetpack_operation 11h ago

"Give me liberty or give me slavery, which is better than death, I guess." - Patrick Henry, probably

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u/Think_Bluebird_4804 11h ago

Prager u is far right propaganda and these nazis are pumping it into our schools. Fuck Prager u, they will be remembered as dog shit Nazis as long as I'm alive.

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u/DescriptionOk683 10h ago

Fuck this administration

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u/Nonamanadus 9h ago

(cough) ....... Hitler Youth....

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u/Leather-Bid-9380 17h ago

Persecuting Christians was no big deal at points in history, so are we down with that now, too?

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u/Wiener-of-the-State 16h ago

Reverse Inquisition time?

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u/Chefpief 17h ago

Googling occult rituals to summon the spirit of William Tecumseh Sherman.

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u/ConduitofGlass 16h ago

John brown too while your at it

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u/FemRevan64 16h ago

Shit like this is exactly why these kinds of groups need to be nipped in the bud ASAP, once they manage to find ground, its almost impossible to uproot them.

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u/TheAmateurletariat 16h ago

I find that when I have weeds in my garden the best solution is to drag them to the town square and chop their heads off.

Sorry I think I lost the analogy in there somehwere.

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u/CyclingTGD 16h ago

Nazi social engineering

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u/Berkyjay 12h ago

Fucking rage bait article here. PBS still exists folks and now that conservatives have cut its Federal subsidies it is not beholden to any government official.

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u/FatherDotComical 15h ago

The only time a person should come in contact with PU is a well edited YouTube Poop.

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u/catwiesel 14h ago

never again is now.

absolutely disgusting

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u/NetZeroSun 14h ago

When these traitors are trying to normalize slavery, they never had in mind themselves being slaves to minorities.

Funny how it works.

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u/AdamBeigeman 14h ago

One could call this...grooming? They're grooming the kids.

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u/ShaneRealtorandGramp 14h ago

Anti-American content right there

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u/Pleasant-Ad887 14h ago

The main agenda for this administration is to show white people being the victims of slavery.

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u/thoth_hierophant 11h ago

Slavery apologists cannot be allowed to exist in society. They must be disposed of. This is absolutely non-negotiable.

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u/stackered 11h ago

Its genuinely insane and dystopian that PragerU even exists.

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u/IntelligentSeesaw190 9h ago

They aren't the new PBS; Don't give them that credit.  They're a propaganda machine, they'd agree with that assessment.

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u/Fuckthegopers 9h ago

Republicans are a stain on the world.

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u/Fearless_Guitar_3589 9h ago

considering being taken was the same as being killed, if the voyage didn't get you, you had 2-7 lifespan of hard labor and torture ahead of you before death.

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u/high_everyone 8h ago

Praeger University isn’t viral. It’s a virus. It’s propaganda and bad content for children.

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u/Medical_Arugula3315 8h ago

Hard to be a shittier or more hypocritical American than a Republican these days. Hey remember that time Trump was found liable of forcefully shoving his fingers up a woman's vagina by a jury of his American peers and then Republicans voted for him? Republicans knowingly vote for molesters. Don't be Republican...