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Business Why are so many musicians removing their music from Spotify?

https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-culture/musicians-removing-music-spotify-royalties-ai-daniel-ek-10208768/
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u/BigDictionEnergy 17h ago

Meanwhile, meathead joe rogan got paid how much?

Yeah, I'd be taking my music down, too.

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u/Euphoriam5 15h ago

Fuck Joe Rogan 

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u/Fatality 15h ago

For exclusivity from someone with millions of followers and billions of views

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u/BigDictionEnergy 15h ago

I didn't ask what his supposed value was. He has zero, to me. Seeing him get those fatass checks while musicians that made the platform successful in the first place get peanuts should be an issue for any rational person.

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u/nothingstupid000 15h ago

I didn't ask what his supposed value was

Yeah, I don't ask for evidence that proves me wrong either!

while musicians that made the platform successful in the first place

I was my local builders first customer! I demand special rates for ever!

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u/BigDictionEnergy 15h ago

What evidence do you have? Has he increased market share? What's the ROI? Since I asked, I expect it should be no problem for you to demonstrate how wrong I am.

Without hyperbolic nonsense like that second line.

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u/nothingstupid000 15h ago

Spotify thinks he has, and they have the commercially sensitive data you're demanding.

Saying "The only evidence I'll accept is the evidence I know won't be released", is kind of a jerk move.

Who do you think knows more -- the Boffins at Spotify, or BigDictionEnergy.

If you disagree for moral reasons (you think Spotify owes more money to musicians), that's fine -- as long as you think my builder should give me special rates too!

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u/RamenJunkie 11h ago

Except if artists leave the platform over AI and Rogan, it ultimately devalues the long term value. 

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u/BigDictionEnergy 12h ago

Saying "The only evidence I'll accept is the evidence I know won't be released

Where did I say that? Find another strawman to engage, your bullshit isn't working here.

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u/nothingstupid000 12h ago

Where did I say that?

Has he increased market share? What's the ROI?

This you? You literally asked for commercial information....

Who do you think knows more -- Spotify or some random on the internet?

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u/BigDictionEnergy 12h ago

I said I empathize with the artists taking their stuff off spotify. I don't care how profitable rogan is, he's a fucking moron.

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u/Fatality 14h ago

What's the ROI?

Why does it matter? If you think you have millions of listeners that you can bring to the platform with an exclusivity deal call them up and ask, otherwise they'll continue to pay Warner/Sony/Etc on artists behalf.

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u/BigDictionEnergy 12h ago

Meaning you don't know. So first, it's an issue I didn't ask, and now it's irrelevant that I did.

I don't care about his millions of moron listeners. I'd rather read a book about the subjects. My point was, if I were an artist with music on Spotify, I'd be taking it down too.

Your teachers handed your papers back to you face down, huh?

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u/nothingstupid000 12h ago

I don't care about his millions of moron listeners.

Oh I see, you just don't like him.

Grow up, sometimes people you don't like are more successful than you...

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u/BigDictionEnergy 12h ago

I said I empathize with the artists taking their stuff off spotify. I don't care how rich rogan is, he's a fucking moron and will never be the subject of my envy.

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u/Fatality 12h ago

I don't care about his millions of moron listeners

You don't but Spotify does

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u/RamenJunkie 11h ago

That doesn't mean he isn't a piece of shit person. 

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u/Fatality 11h ago

I wouldn't know