My mother keeps insisting I wear this hoodie, cause she bought it

[u/personthatisapersons]

I can't stand it, partially because it had something to do with a baby shower which was before I was born anyway

But mostly because it's AI slop, probably made in a sweatshop, and it's not even that warm or comfortable

Any reason I give is instantly shut down, per usual

[u/CC_9876]

knowing my mom she'd absolutely wear something shitty just to make a point. Fucking narcissist has no consistent moral guidelines

[u/Tree1237 → u/CC_9876]

Even if it had an unsavory central piece, like a penis or swastika?

[u/CC_9876 → u/Tree1237]

If she’s was angry enough yes the penis but no for the swastika. Shed make a point about it being hate speech and not consistent with what she bought me

[u/Mercurius94 → u/CC_9876]

Please do not throw the word narcissist around unless you know what it means tho

[u/Crazy_Ad_7401 → u/Mercurius94]

how do u know their mom isnt one? maybe they arent throwing the word around

[u/Mercurius94 → u/Crazy_Ad_7401]

A narcissist is someone that is obsessed with looks, self esteem and reputation. It sounds like a big word to people on TikTok so they use it to refer to "sadists, sociopaths, liars and cheaters" when in reality it refers to someone who is interested in their physical appearance and wants others to value them for their appearance and status.
Narcissism is a mental complex, it's really not serious. It isn't laughing in someone's face when they're down, it isn't taking joy out of someone else's wrongdoings, it isn't about outsmarting one's peers even.

[u/nykirnsu → u/Mercurius94]

How do you have a worse understanding of NPD than TikTok? While OP’s mother’s behaviour could just easily be explained by a number of other conditions, it’s absolutely consistent with narcissism, which is chiefly characterised by a fragile ego and need for approval combined with a lack of empathy. Obsession with physical appearance is just one possible expression, it can absolutely include everything you listed at the end too, and the way OP’s mother is acting is even potentially an example of status obsession since it’s an aggressive display of parental authority

[u/Mercurius94 → u/nykirnsu]

But I don't have a wrong understanding you're just incorrect. Narcissists aren't incapable of empathy, that is antisocial personality disorder (APD) in which people often manipulate to get what they want because they have a lack of development for empathetic feelings. You'll understand when you graduate.

[u/nykirnsu → u/Mercurius94]

No, it’s both NPD and ASPD, except neither of them are actually fully incapable of empathy, their ability to act upon it is just heavily stunted. You can look this up, I’ve got no idea where you’re getting your understanding of NPD from but like I said it’s even more wrong than what TikTok says. At least they only distort the condition into its most stereotypical aspects, you’ve basically made up an entirely new condition

[u/Mercurius94 → u/nykirnsu]

Nope, you're trying to look smart and downplay my argument to boost your ego. Which is unironically what someone would do if they had NPD.
Someone with NPD seeks to look good at all times and be the center of attention, i suggest you do a -ai search (typing your search into Google and then putting -ai at the end of the search ie: "how to type -ai") so you know what you're talking about.

[u/Not_Quite_Human64 → u/Mercurius94]

https://share.google/fpRbt9zOLChIHTJUb

Actually read it all rather than being a dumbass who just reads the start about where the origin of the word is from, which is basically what you're describing as the actual disorder.

[u/nykirnsu → u/Mercurius94]

Alright, here's what the American National Institute of Health has to say:

Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a complex psychological condition that presents with a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy.

The NIH isn't an AI source, yet it backs up my claim. Curious. Here's an article the American Psychiatric Association:

It is defined as a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (sense of superiority in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy

Almost the same exact definition. The Cleveland Clinic likewise lists lack of empathy, entitlement and a willingness to exploit others as all being symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. The Mayo Clinic lists reacting with rage or contempt and trying to belittle other people to make themselves appear superior as a symptom. These are all legitimate academic sources and they all back up what I'm saying, what do you got?

[u/Mercurius94 → u/nykirnsu]

I thought I said narcissists aren't incapable of empathy, though, not that they don't have empathetic issues - if you would have quoted that from the start. I wouldn't have blown your dick but I would have agreed with you. The narcissist doesn't manipulate to manipulate, but because they have a complex of self value. Otherwise it wouldn't be called narcissism.
Narcissism is about one's looks and self values, perhaps you should reread the whole thing and not just the parts you want to relate to your argument?