r/teenagers • u/sexypanini6 17 • 1d ago
Discussion Fr tho like why are so many immigrants racist
So I'm Indian and some of my family in the US who are all first gen immigrants are all so racist and don't want immigrants coming in from other countries like why are you so hypocritical ššš
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u/After-Property-3678 18 1d ago
Every Hispanic person who got papers be like:
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u/Deep_Head4645 16 1d ago
I would also get pissed if i went through a long and difficult process to get the privilege of citizenship and then i would see some bloke who broke the law to get it.
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u/After-Property-3678 18 1d ago
Ive been in the US for 10 years seeking asylum(legal way as many racist people love to say it) as of now I donāt even hate a date for my hearing and I hate how long this process has been, and I couldnāt care less if someone else gets it done in a year or two, in fact Iām happy that they donāt have do deal with what I have to š sure I canāt complain much as I have a SSN and working permit, putting me ahead of a lot of people but doesnāt mean is slow asf
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u/Calvesguy_1 19 22h ago
"Curing cancer is unfair to all the people who died of cancer" type shit.
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u/Odd-Spare161 8h ago
I know a guy who was undocumented- crossed illegally from Mexico and worked as a day laborer for a few years. Eventually he got citizenship, and now he's the biggest snob about undocumented people.
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u/OldPiano6706 11h ago
Those papers come with all the benefits of being a citizen though. If youāre in the country undocumented, you donāt get to experience a life like a normal citizen.
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u/RepublicCute8573 5h ago
Such a dumb ahh take. Someone who went through the system should realize exactly how racist and exclusionary it is. People with valid applications get turned down for any number of ridiculous reasons when all they're looking for is a chance at a new life.
Those who went through the process before should have empathy because they know the struggles firsthand.
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u/Iceman411q 1d ago
I mean, why wouldnāt they be mad? My Latin American dad went through years of hard work and struggle in order to get Canadian citizenship, scared to even get a parking ticket, working technician jobs he was way overqualified for as he was an experienced electrical engineer. And now there are Indian international students coming here to fake colleges, not attending any classes, that are getting preferred hiring in jobs over citizens and being able to act like complete hooligans and disrespecting Canada, even going as far as to commit literal sex crimes and these liberal judges letting them go without any punishment with the reasoning that it could delay their ability to get citizenship and sponsor their extended family here. It would upset anyone
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u/Successful_Sea_3637 21h ago
You have any proof that Indian immigrants commit more crime than other immigrants or they are more likely to be let go by judges?
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u/After-Property-3678 18 1d ago
Ive been in the US for 10 years seeking asylum, as of now I donāt even hate a date for my hearing and I hate how long this process has been, and I couldnāt care less if someone else gets it done in a year or two, in fact Iām happy that they donāt have do deal with that I have to š Also, the idea that most immigrants are criminals has been rebuked several times š
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u/No_Letterhead6010 14 1d ago
My south Asian dad is so fuckin racistš
A compilation of what heās said:
āDonāt date an Indian girl son. Why? They all smell like curry!ā
āThese fucking Mexicans are coming into this country and destroying the economy!ā
āLook! Chow mein!ā (He was pointing at a Chinese family)
āSon, donāt panic but thereās an Arab on this planeāĀ
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u/smackmyass321 3,000,000 Attendee! 23h ago
Which country from south Asia? I assume not India because well....you know. But people can always be racist towards their own people!
My parents (from Pakistan) hate on Jews and white immigrants lol. They adore Arabs though
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u/No_Letterhead6010 14 22h ago
Heās Sri Lankan, but really heās racist to everyone except white people.Ā
Edit; Now that I think about it heās said racist things about white prople too, but heās really chill with my racist white granddad.Ā
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u/smackmyass321 3,000,000 Attendee! 22h ago
Oh, thats stupid. The current indians alive have absolutely no control over that. And it was a civil war! The war itself had nothing to do with India....still though, I think India has awesome culture. And they don't deserve to be hated for something out of their control
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u/bad_gaming_chair_ 15h ago
Whaaaat? When I lived in Oman I knew a sri lankan family and was friends with them and they were really nice people, they were a bit close minded on religion but we're overall really nice people and the parents let me and my brother basically spend the entire day at their house when we were kids.
I get you don't mean all Sri Lankans are racist but in my eyes, it's much more likely for an Indian, Bangladeshi, or Pakistani to be racist than a Sri lankan
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u/RepublicCute8573 5h ago
I get you don't mean all Sri Lankans are racist but in my eyes, it's much more likely for an Indian, Bangladeshi, or Pakistani to be racist than a Sri lankan
The fucking irony of this statement.
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u/bad_gaming_chair_ 3h ago
I mean, I'm none of these, just an observation. I'm not calling any of the others inherently racist either, I met a lot of the and a lot of them were nice people. It just seems like the active conflicts between these countries promote some sort of negative education about each other to their children
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u/Cactuspotion 12h ago
This is literally just Diane Nguyen's family in Bojack Horsemen. I mean tbh, they're a caricature of this exact problem lol š
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u/Rustynail9117 16 22h ago
Ignoring the racism, but curry smells fucking delicious?????
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u/CloudyBird_ 11h ago
Traditional curries tend to have pungent aromas, tho the Americanized curries tend to lack it
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u/xxxlovelit 9h ago
The joke here is a while he thinks heās above all these people, a racist white person sees him and says all of these things about him š¬
Racism in America only serves white supremacy and every immigrant who gets in on it is just making it worse for all of us.
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u/MaybeMaybeNot94 OLD 1d ago
Easily the most viciously racist things I've ever heard, came from a very old Chinese woman. The grandmother of girl I dated once. She sure seemed to adore me, tho, idk
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u/smackmyass321 3,000,000 Attendee! 23h ago
FOR REAL. My parents are pakistani immigrants who moved here. They dislike Jews, hate a lot of white people and say stuff like "you've been whitewashed!" Like maybe just don't immigrate to a majority white country? They tell me Pakistan is the best country ever. And like, I love my roots and culture and heritage, but im so interested in other cultures. Oh, and another thing, my parents also sometimes pressure me to learn another language (I mean any language) like bro what's with the 180Ā°?
Also, ironically, they used to dislike Indians but now they like the people since northern indian and pakistani culture are similar and they kinda see indians and Pakistanis as the same people now, they still say their government is bad though
And whenever they see a white immigrant, they're like "they're not a REAL immigrant"
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u/Greedy-Name1631 13h ago
How many languages do you speak
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u/waleedburki 19 10h ago
He prol speaks 2 or maybe even 3,I'm Pakistani and I have two native languages that I speak perfectly and can also converse in English
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u/Extension_Wafer_7615 18 13h ago
My parents are pakistani immigrants who moved here.
Where is "here"?
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u/osama_bin_guapin 18 1d ago
āFuck you, I got mineā mentality
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u/Electronic-Coach7687 16 13h ago
Well that, and the fact that the West is much less overtly racist in general.
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u/RepublicCute8573 5h ago
Incredibly stupid mentality as well. The more immigrants the more political power they would hold altogether. Anyone with sense would want further immigration else they'll remain an ever shrinking minority that'll eventually be kicked out.
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u/FixTheLoginBug 8h ago
Rightwing racist mentality can be found in every culture. They want to see others suffer so they can feel better about not having those hardships.
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u/Anvilmar1 OLD 21h ago
why are so many immigrants racist
The most common reason that I've observed is this:
When immigrants that go through a lot of procedures to migrate legally, see illegal immigrants, they become cynical and radicalized. They see all their efforts as worthless.
They end up becoming the most fervent and zealous anti-immigration people cause of that. Then, due to this, they see people calling them racist, while at the same time they see actual racists supporting their views.
And as humans are social creatures and the need for belonging is a fundamental psychological need, they easily start adopting the ideas and forming groups with the people that start agreeing with them....
It's a slow process but I've seen it many times, both first hand and indirectly.
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u/SamePlane7792 9h ago
Itās also because they also left their country to move somewhere else and so watching other people from their country or other countries move there annoys them because what was the point.
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u/Yeet_Away_Account__ 18 1d ago
Usually what happens: skilled immigrants look down upon āanchor babyā immigrants and āoops I lost my visa for the thirteenth timeā immigrants.
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u/Thermisto_ 14h ago
My wife and I took 4 years to save up money and apply for Canadian PR before moving here. Masters degree, STEM bachelor's degree, perfect English scores (repeated the test because 90% for IELTS wasn't good enough to get in), paid thousands for evaluations and application fees.
Meanwhile, my coworker has two separate cousins from wealthy families who went on holiday in Canada and then claimed refugee status. Government is housing them and giving them a basic income for a year
I'm pro-immigrant but dishonest people are exploiting loopholes
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u/Yeet_Away_Account__ 18 9h ago
Same, my parents also immigrated to Canada after getting perfect scores on the test, despite setbacks due to mark deduction because of age. There are so many people who exploit loopholes (cutting up visa and flushing down the toilet so the government canāt deport them, pretending to be gay and seeking refugee, etc), making the actual immigrants look bad by association.
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u/kingalex11431 1d ago
Making an assumption on assumptions other people make? Lol
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u/Yeet_Away_Account__ 18 1d ago
Nothing is assumed, I have friends of all the above mention immigrant types, and Iām an immigrant myself. These are from experience.
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u/PrinceOfLeon 16h ago
Old joke:
Two Syrian refugees compete to see who can become the most American in three weeks.
After three weeks the Syrians meet again at a McDonalds. The first Syrian makes his case for him being more American by saying: "Every day I have taken my son to softball practice and my daughter to ballet. I just purchased my first car and it is a Chevy El Camino. I've recently started listening to Toby Keith and Lynyrd Skynyrd and my favorite football team is the Dallas Cowboys. Beat that!"
The other Syrian simply replies with: "Get out of my country, you fucking towelhead."
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u/Eotech_delam 19 1d ago
Believe it or not. A LOT of other countries happen to be significantly more racist and xenophobic than the U.S
And that's not to say all of the people from those countries are, but there are significantly more than there are in the states.
And when it comes to immigration. A lot of it has to do with legals, vs illegals.
It's not hard to imagine that people who play by the rules, get pissed off when people who cheat, get minimal repercussions.
My grandpa fought for the U.S in Vietnam to get citizenship in the U.S. he fought his own people, because he knew life here would be better than it was over there. And now he sees all the people entering the country illegally from all manner of different countries, and doing nothing in return for being here. He has the right to be pissed.
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u/kranzleid9 1d ago
I am thankful for his service and I hope he was able to live a great life in America
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u/Eotech_delam 19 1d ago
So far, he thankfully has. After he came to the U.S he became a cop for a while. Then moved to tech. Has two children and 6 grandchildren. And is now comfortably retired.
He still travels back to Vietnam nearly every year to visit his friends, and I plan on joining him on a trip to Vietnam some time
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u/Rustynail9117 16 22h ago
Yeah the majority of countries where people are emigrating from are FAR more conservative and xenophobic than Western countries. If you come from Afghanistan into America then yeah you're going to have crazily different beliefs from the average American, that is like, THE biggest con regarding immigration and is why conservatives don't like relaxed immigration (excluding the racists obviously).
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u/LowBudgetRalsei 16 1d ago
Being pissed off is pretty reasonable. But if someone starts taking it out on others it immediately becomes unreasonable (im not accusing anyone of anything btw. Im just adding on to it)
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u/darkneel 19h ago
Trump and his supporters have made it absolutely clear that itās not about legal vs illegal immigration . Yāall can stop hiding behind that veil now .
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u/AlarmingDiamond9316 1d ago
The Legal immigrants hate the Illegal immigrants, because now everyone is getting deported.
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u/kneyonn OLD 23h ago
Humans like to feel superior. Race although it's made up is one of the things u simply cannot change about urself. So they harp on it bcuz it keeps you permanently below them
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u/Fluffy-Hedgehog-8625 19h ago
Some religions, many systems are based on feeling superior. Spot on, I like your mindset.
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u/redditorialy_retard 1d ago
Cuz I came here to avoid people like those fucks in my country. I don't want my host country to become like my home country due to overlg lax immigration policies
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u/YourPetPenguin0610 16h ago
I agree. There are some people that are absolutely disrespectful, obnoxious and unruly (plus entitled) from where I am and I dread to see these people getting to other countries (which has happened before and it always turned out bad)
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u/One_Variation_2453 15 1d ago
Ahh, the struggle of having casually racist parents/family.. one we all relate to ironically lmao. Maybe they feel a sense of entitlement since they've been there longer ig idk lol. Don't get me started on when rhey vote anti-immigrant parties too
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u/Anxious-Philosophy-2 14h ago
Itās called pulling the ladder up behind you and itās sadly super common yeah
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u/redrosesforher 1d ago
Maybe itās something internalized? I be hating on FOBs and I realize thatās not rightā¦šā We should be united as one, though.
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u/yeetis12 1d ago
I mean tbf alot of immigrants who have immigrated legally probably donāt like the ones who have skipped the process they had to go through to be in the country they reside. Im not saying that justifies all immigrant on immigrant hate but its one of the reasons you see that kind of behavior.
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u/Whole_Commission_702 22h ago
Most countries in the world and mostly mono race/culture. Even the EU. So the reality is most countries are naturally racist to some extent. Like China is 98% Chinese.. They donāt just transform after immigrating.
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u/Less_Cheesecake_9929 15 14h ago
that's pretty true. I live in an area with plenty of immigrants (mainly south Asian and eastern European) and many of their families are racist asf. my own family is Latin American and they're constantly talking about immigration lol (I live in the UK)
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u/Electrical_You2818 1d ago
Itās not immigrants a lot of cultures are incredibly racist, more so than in the west, especially to black people.
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u/meow_zedong_ccp 22h ago
no you are misinterpreting the video: it's implying americans are hypocrites (which they are) because they're immigrants in the first place and yet are racist agaisnt immigrants who happened to come to their country after them...
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u/EastCharming2611 14 19h ago
Believe me when I say this; Indians might be the most racist people on this planet. Iām Indian and I treat everyone the same, but thatās not always the case. Indians donāt like: People from different Indian states, white people, other Asians (especially pak and ban), black people etc. However, this applies more to the older generation who grew up in India.Ā
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u/Im_Weeb_Otaku 16 19h ago
And guess what, as a Bangladeshi, it's the same here and I can confirm that a Pakistani dude would say the same shit. No wonder the entire world hates us.
We are the representation of the meme "We don't want your kind here" while being the same shit
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u/EastCharming2611 14 19h ago
Why is racism a thing brošš Like everyone is literally the same.
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u/sexypanini6 17 17h ago
I'm Indian too, and you're probably right honestly, the racism here is on another level. Its really sad :(
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u/Nectarinic-Prdz 15 1d ago
my immigrant parents are very anti migration both to the us and from their home countries (they are against ppl leaving) ššš
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u/Rara3995 23h ago
We should create something like amigrants being people who never ever migrated and omigrants who emigrated in every country.
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u/FragrantFeeling397 13h ago
Literally the conversation I had with my mother this morning. š¤¦āāļø You think after they come for the asylum seekers they won't come for the established immigrants?
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u/Decent_Salmon 1d ago
I mean both my parents immigrated legally so makes sense it kinda pisses me off when people come illegally
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u/Fearless-Door-8891 13 1d ago
In Australia itās just as bad, so Indians migrate to Australia and then call the Australians who came hundreds of years ago Colonisers and itās so annoying to be called that by indians all the time, then they are racist towards other immigrants like Asians sometimes, but itās mainly to Australian/British.
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u/SophiaThrowawa7 21h ago
āColoniserā is just a descriptor, not a moral judgment thatās negative or positive. Iām assuming youāre not indigenous which means youāre a coloniser, thatās not a bad thing, it just describes how you got to this country. Just because colonisers a long (not that long) time ago did some horrible shit doesnāt mean itās our fault, but we still reap the rewards of all that plundering and itās important to recognise that
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u/Fearless-Door-8891 13 13h ago
I wouldnāt call myself a coloniser because I donāt colonise shit and never have, actually my family never have really because it was just the explorers and British government back in the 1700s.
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u/SophiaThrowawa7 13h ago
Youāre missing my point, the fact that you personally didnāt steal the land doesnāt matter. Because you are not indigenous, you benefit from systems that were put in place by the people who did colonise this land.
If my family were sent back to Ireland where most of them were born, they would be indigenous as opposed to the British occupiers. My great grandfather who fought in the IRA in the 20s was an indigenous person fighting against a colonial force.
These are all just descriptors with no moral weight, the actions of people (who I also am not related to) in the past doesnāt make us evil but we do live in their unjust system
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u/biskitpagla OLD 16h ago
It's pick-me syndrome. No offense but Indians are some of the most racist people in Western countries especially towards other South Asians or even Asians in general.Ā
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u/Temporary-Judge-7260 22h ago
I'm Chinese, my mom said I can only marry other Chinese when I grow up lol 1. She thinks Indians smell 2. She hates Japan (so do I cuz yeah) 3. She thinks Koreans are shameless 4. She thinks Americans are g@y 5. She thinks southeast Asians are poor No offense to anyone tho, I personally disagree with 1, 3, 4, and 5
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u/Edible_Oxygen_ 13h ago
Im Mongolian and my mom has never really said anything bad about the koreans or japanese (except that the tried to attack us but russia helped), however will crack jokes about the Chinese all the time, I had my pants rolled up once and she told me to unroll them because I look like a Chinese peasant, its only fair because a chinese person I met once told me that he was told that mongols at chinese babies
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u/Electronic-Coach7687 16 4h ago
She hates Japan (so do I cuz yeah)
Your mother may have a somewhat backward mindset but please try to be better yourself. Japanese people present today did not commit those heinous crimes.
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u/OwnAMusketForHomeDef 20h ago
because of the false notion "If I'm like who's in charge, they'll like me and I won't be harmed"
Downvote me all you want but I've seen it, heard it, and most of all, lived it
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u/Weak-Translator209 16 1d ago
i feel like thats just ur case. in my and many others case they were frindly and kind enough to help others and did 'integrate' with the new society
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u/sexypanini6 17 1d ago
That's definitely possible. Maybe my family members are just bigots lol
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u/speadiestbeaneater 17 1d ago
No you definitely have a point a lot of people share the same mindset as your parents, donāt let that other loser lie to your face and passive-aggressively imply that your folks are savages
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u/-Anonymousredditer- 19 17h ago
Iām against illegal immigration because I donāt think itās fair my grandad worked 16-20 hours a day in mills and factories and started his life from nothing as an immigrant in a completely new country, but now people can come over illegally lie about being asylum seekers and get everything handed to them on a plate
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u/Late_Republic_4024 11h ago
Not to mention it is not fair that people who pretend to need asylum are hogging resources meant for people who are truly in danger. And their jackass behaviour sours communities on bringing in real refugees. I'm against fraudulent asylum seeking because I want those resources to go to the people they are meant for.
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u/AcademicAcolyte 17 21h ago
South Africa is among the worst when it comes to this
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u/Accomplished-Row439 19h ago
It's possible to be against lenient immigration laws without being racist. It's normally legals vs illegals
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u/Abu-Hajaar- 19h ago
Its not immigrants hating immigrants its legal immigrants hating illegal immigrants. (my parents are immigrants)
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u/Efficient-Trouble697 19 17h ago
Why do we group immigrants together? There's a pretty huge cultural difference than someone indian vs someone from latin america. We assume because people are non white that they generally have some sort of solidarity, ignoring literally all the signs that they don't, ie almost every single hispanic country is deeply racist just look at the garifunas in honduras. Or what china is doing to the Uyghurs.
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u/YourPetPenguin0610 16h ago
The legal immigrants generally hates illegal/law breaking immigrants because they make immigrants in general look bad and make the situation worse for everyone else.
I can tell for certain because immigrants/int students/int workers from my country hate people coming from certain parts in the country because people from those parts are notorious for breaking laws/overstaying or misusing their visa. As a result it puts a bad rep on the whole country for authorities and visa regulations become stricter and stricter.
Or sometimes the subtle racism is just ingrained in some of the older generations' minds.
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u/roarworsted 16h ago
Everyone saying its because those first immigrants are racist or newer immigrants are bad culture. But no one is mentioning the other important reason the pick me behaviour. They think they will be thought as one of the good ones and spared from racism if they are themselves racist to their community and distance themseves from them.
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u/peace_love_ostriches 14h ago
It seams to be, sadly, quite common: immigration is generally a process that is very hard and heavy to live trough and people who experience it obtain what they end up obtaining with great difficulty. This usually leads this "first" immigrants to a strongly conservative world view where the one who come after either are stealing the little the "firsts" have obtain or are getting things by doing nothing while the "firsts" had to do all sorts of hard things to have the same. Of course all of this is short-sighted, based on the fear and misinformation, and it would make more sense to help the one who come after as you yourself would have liked to be helped but that takes strength, empathy and courage. Three things that are not very common to find together in the same person, especially in older generations
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u/Breadgoat836 12h ago
People who hate all immigration is wrong People who hate mass immigration and the government also not offsetting the financial problems that come with that have a bit more of a valid argument.
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u/goromustdie 16 12h ago
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u/sandyboy1144 OLD 12h ago
My aunt and her family are from Slovakia and they are very very conservativeĀ
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u/Routine_Curve_8076 16 12h ago
I saw someone saying āThe new gens of Indians here are lower in caste than previous generationsā
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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 12h ago
I like how you switched to "emigrated" so you wouldn't repeat "immigr" three times.
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u/QuestionYet 11h ago
Well integrated immigrants suffer from the stereotypes poorly integrated immigrants cause. That's why they despise them. Honestly can't blame them.
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u/Outrageous_Limit_324 15 10h ago
Once saw a video of a canadian truck with a video showing muslims praying and saying "wake up canada" and my first thought was "blud, you're white you should be doing putting that up to your own people too"
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u/coreysnecc 10h ago
I feel like it's because (if you're from America) this country likes to sort of subtly redirect nationalities to act against each other in order to distract from the actually root of the issues. To put it more broadly, people blaming immigrants for issues/"ruining something".... but the real reason is government evils or just plain lack of care š
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u/Distinct_Guess3350 16 10h ago
Itās so stupid. Literally all white Americans are descended from Immigrants, and all the MAGA idiots don't seem to realise that and keep saying that immigrants are evil and should be punished. Funny as fuck, theyāre basically asking to have themselves deported at this point.Ā
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u/Beautiful_Yellow_682 9h ago
I have a work colleague, she is from Estonia and lives in Germany since 2016, she often shits on people from Syria ... um
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u/T000e 18 9h ago
My family is immigrant, my brother hates immigrants coming to the country we migrated to, he also Asians and Indians migrating to out homeland. But to he fair on him, we are in Uni and the moment he finishes, he will run back to our homeland. (We migrated here for better studying, and we have settlement and all)
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u/andrasic123321 OLD 9h ago
yeah, i live in germany, and my dad has said multiple times that we need hitler back because of the immigrants. Yeah, we're white, but that wouldn't give us a pass on the genocide for long
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u/cybernewtype2 9h ago
"Aye Jay, here we go..because in Columbia we trip over goats and kill people on the streets. Do you know how offensive that sounds?..ITS LIKE WE ARE PERUVIANS.."
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u/That_Chemical_7763 8h ago
As a British person who has little experience involving immigrants, I cannot relate.
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u/Creepy-Poetry-3711 8h ago
Internalized racism, racist jokes soaring in popularity among teens/online spaces, the concept of trying to be āthe good onesā, internalized white supremacy, and fear of isolation from peers if they refuse to conform to certain ideals.
Could be a combo of any these or just having phonk music military propaganda TikTokās blasted into their head at warp speed.
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u/Odd-Spare161 8h ago
I have worked with a lot of Latin immigrants in my career and excruciating single one of them is a trump supporter. They're all for ICE doing what it's doing. They all have that "they should come here legally- if I can do it, they can too" attitude.
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u/Klowlord 13 8h ago
My dad genuinely curses (in my native language of course) at people who drive badly and say itās because of our people and always tries to see if they are male or female for some reason. He doesnāt like Africans and african Americans, other Asian people, and fellow Indians who came after us .
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u/the_albino_raccoon 8h ago
Actually, it's an attempt to be part of the ingroup. Unfortunately, when the chips are down, we are all immigrants...
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u/Altruistic_Travel_83 8h ago
Well i think its because they ran away from their country to not see those people anymore and when they do, it gets em all worked up i guess. Also they know that most of their people are bad which is the main reason they emigrated from their home countries.
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u/Purplord 7h ago
If i ever make it out of this shithole one day, last thing i wanna see again is my neighboors.
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u/cryptiquarian OLD 7h ago
Person A doesn't like where he is. Person A doesn't like the city, doesn't like the people. Person A immigrates to another city to be among different people. The people Person A didn't like also come to another city and are among the people of that city. Person A is now again among the people he wanted to get away from.
Sometimes it's not exactly because of "people", just what they might be representing for the immigrant. If you're moving from your home, then there was something threatening/unpleasant in your home, and now you feel like other immigrants bring that threat to you again.
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u/Suspicious_Plum_8866 6h ago
I donāt know why you wouldnāt assume they werenāt racist before they immigrated
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u/Biggiecheese1207 17 5h ago
From what ive observed, theres a few reasons why immigrants are racist towards other immigrants.
Firstly is the divide between legal immigrants and illegal immigrants. To immigrate to a country legally, especially to a western country, you would have to wait several years to get papers and documents done along with paying hundreds to even thousands in fees and travel expenses. Meanwhile an illegal immigrant could simply exploit loopholes in the system (ie, falsely seeking asylum) to skip that process and end up in the same place at a much quicker and cheaper pace than the person who followed the rules and immigrated legally.
As such, itās understandable for a legal immigrant to have dissent to those who immigrated illegally. After all whats the point of following the rules to legally immigrate if the person beside you at the airport did none of that and yet you two are on equal footing.
Second is a historical divide. Historically, certain countries and people have very strained relationships. For example in Asia, Chinese, Koreans and certain SEA people have dissent/racism towards japan because of atrocities committed in WW2. What japan did 80 years ago is inexcusable and had left generational trauma on the victims. Theres also the Indo-Pakistani wars between india and pakistan throughout modern history.
Thus because of these events, immigrants may carry that same stigma against immigrants from somewhere else, even though realistically they are the same people living on a clean slate trying to make their way in a new world.
Then theres also a mere cultural divide. This is the most inexcusable reason behind racism imo and it really stems from a āthem being different than usā mentality. This racism is arguably the worst as it has no justifiable albeit still morally wrong reasoning behind why they carry stigma against others.
Theres a whole host of other reasons why immigrants are racist towards other immigrants like unwillingness to accept cultural assimilation, but these are the big 3 that I believe explain this phenomena.
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u/kultavavalli 5h ago
The immigrants who have jobs, are integrated and worked hard to get in to the country look at the immigrants who come to the country toand ruin every immigrant's reputation by doing nothing to integrate themselves or even respect the host country's culture and laws.
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u/iuris-dogtor 5h ago
Same principle applies, albeit slightly tweaked, as the Johnson quote āIf you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.ā Divide and conquer/stratification between the lowest rungs on societyās ladder lets those at the top do what they want.
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u/Farthor478 4h ago
Tecnicaly the human was originaly from africa So you can't clown you, me, that guy who Just cross ed the border we are all immigrants even With never leaving the country
And the native america, even white americans where Born in America are immigrantsĀ
EVERYONE IS AN IMMIGRANT
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u/Responsible-Mind579 15 1d ago
That's literally my parents lmao. We're korean and they hate every other asian