r/teenagers • u/sexypanini6 17 • 2d ago

Discussion Fr tho like why are so many immigrants racist

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So I'm Indian and some of my family in the US who are all first gen immigrants are all so racist and don't want immigrants coming in from other countries like why are you so hypocritical šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­

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u/Responsible-Mind579 15 2d ago

That's literally my parents lmao. We're korean and they hate every other asian

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u/Beckett-Baker 2d ago

Well that's just asian. Filipinos love all asian, except for Jappanese.

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u/Mindless-Major-1173 2d ago

Most racism against the Japanese from East Asian cultures makes sense because of a lot the messed up shit they did, some Japanese war crimes make the Nazis look fairly good in contrast and the Japanese government is yet to make any formal apology to these nationsĀ 

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u/Responsible-Mind579 15 2d ago

That's the exact reason why my mom despises anything and anyone japanese. Our household is forbidden from buying anything from japan if it's avoidableĀ 

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u/punk_petukh OLD 1d ago

NYC MTA: buys trains from Kawasaki

Your mom: "If you take the subway you're out of the family" /j

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u/Aei_Ryanami 1d ago

Ok maybe despising anyone or anything Japanese is too extreme. A Japanese person never chose to be Japanese.

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u/Not_Xiphroid 1d ago

Thatā€™s correct, but products from Japan will financially benefit the government of Japan (via taxes, etc.). The government CAN choose to continue to make those crimes an intrinsic part of Japanese identity by not issuing a formal apology for them.

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u/Rapha689Pro 14 1d ago

That's not true, plenty of the prime ministers have directly condemned the actions of Imperial JapanĀ 

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u/Not_Xiphroid 1d ago

Interesting, I was of the belief that this wasnā€™t the case and itā€™s certainly a prevailing belief despite the truth of the matter.

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u/Aquaferno111 1d ago

Although thatā€™s the main reason thatā€™s brought up, the more damning and factual reason is the omission and downplaying of their actions in their public education curriculum.

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u/Dependent_Lime_8461 9h ago

Nope, the problem is that they downplay and sometimes straight up omit this from their school history books

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u/Camgrowfortreds 1d ago

That's not interactive with the original argument at all. The individual condemnation of prime ministers in no way constitutes a formal apology, nor position shift of the government or nation of Japan. Education on the rape of Nanking, for example, is still limited, particularly when compared to German educational changes. In addition, national memorials to known war criminals still stand.

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u/Rapha689Pro 14 1d ago

What would an apology really change, Japan is no longer like its past and it is one of the best countriesĀ 

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u/Camgrowfortreds 1d ago

First off, the fact they donā€™t apologise inherently means they either still implicitly support or are complicit. Second off, if an apology doesnā€™t change anything thereā€™s no harms to doing so, itā€™s clearly and idealogical issue. Finally, a country being ā€œbestā€ or well developed doesnā€™t excuse genocide???? Should Germany be advocating for another holocaust just because their economy is good?? Should the US nuking third world nations be applauded because theyā€™re a military superpower???? Clearly not

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u/Specialist-Buffalo-8 1d ago

Judging a person based on their government's or past ancestors decisions is honestly r*tardation.

I honestly hope your mum eventually grows up.

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u/Altruistic-Depth-852 1d ago

old people are just kinda racist imo

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u/Nervous-Pea2499 20h ago

I agree with your point but the r word is a slur against disabled people and is never right to use Iā€™m not trying to hate but if you could please edit your wording

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u/Fine_Spinach1448 13h ago

Well if I can add to this I can say the slur because I'm literally what it's about and I would also call what this mom thinks that so

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u/nah_i_will_win 10h ago

Some people are still alive that experience it

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u/Puzzleheaded_Skin289 2d ago

My family feels alright towards the japanese people because while hiding during ww2 they were found starving by some japanese and the japanese gave them food and didn't expose their location. We basically agreed that aside from some extreme japanese soldiers, most japanese were alright.

I am chinese btw

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u/SoSoKLoSya 2d ago

Thats rare, because I found that chinese really really hate japanese

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u/officechair2017 1d ago

Racism cannot "make sense". Even if what happened in the past was messed up it doesn't mean an entire group of people is inherently evil

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u/caelum19 1d ago

Letting a tribalistic bias impact your judgment of a culture is bad, but cultures do have pros and cons and some do just suck. The view that all cultures are equal is actually less compassionate and more ignorant.

Calling compassionate cultural critique and accommodation sensible / good racism probably is unwise though, it is somewhat an element of semantics but seeing cultures for their pros and cons is sensible

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u/Mindless-Major-1173 1d ago

Just check my other replies which explains why this is the case

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u/officechair2017 1d ago

What? Are you seriously defending xenophobia

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u/Mindless-Major-1173 1d ago

Also, did you even check my reply to shoddy_Incident5352 and SnooPets6197?

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u/Mindless-Major-1173 1d ago

No. Both parties are in the wrong and itā€™s a very complicated subject, Iā€™m in no way defending it, Iā€™m saying the why and how it could be healed. Simple as that

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u/DrPeterBlunt 1d ago

The Japanese during WW2 were notorious rapists. It was practically in their field manual. Literally 100,000 in one city if I'm not mistaken.

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u/Mindless-Major-1173 1d ago

And sadly Japan has been trying to erase that history for decades now

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u/tragedy_strikes_ 1d ago

Yeah. Nazis wish they could have a battle called the ā€œrape of anythingā€.

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u/Rapha689Pro 14 1d ago

Japanese apology is basically becoming completely different from what it was before

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u/JollyLifeguard3534 1d ago

They donā€™t need to apologize to the U.S. DONT TOUCH THE BOATS. EVER.

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u/Shoddy_Incident5352 2d ago

Japanese people who are all ve today didn't fight in WW2, so racism against them doesn't "make sense"

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u/Mindless-Major-1173 2d ago

Please do some research on the war crimes of Japan and what they did in Korea and china, think the Nanjing Massacre for example but it goes even further than that horrifyingly enough. Most racism is also due to the parents and governments of these nations, the parents are almost guaranteed to go through hell if they lived through that period and governments are dissatisfied with Japans ā€œapologiesā€ and even had or have laws that reinforce racism, like in Korea where if I remember correctly, they had a law where if someone spoke too much Japanese, they could be (if I remember correctly) exiled or removed from Korea. Another thing is that racism between Japan, Korea and china goes back thousands of years, itā€™s just that in the 20s-40s was the most extreme form of this racism causing the modern grudge. Not to mention Japanese culture is made around the belief that ww2 didnā€™t happen and Japanese war crime denial conspiracy theories are not only seen as ok in Japan, they are the mainstream thought, especially in the government where most people there are decendantsof Japanese war criminals. Of course, racism is bad but both parties have to agree that Japan did all those war crimes and they were horrible, and the other countries should accept these sincere apologies. But this wonā€™t happen because of Japanese ultranationalism, maybe 100s of years from now where ww2 is no longer an important player in our lives and it will be remembered sort of like how an event like the French Revolution is remembered today, then that would have cooled down by then and racism will for the most part stop in these nationsĀ 

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u/Shoddy_Incident5352 2d ago

Bro of course I know about Japanese war crimes, but the comment was talking about racism against Japanese in America being ok because of that?

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u/Mindless-Major-1173 2d ago edited 2d ago

Oh ok I misunderstood. I thought we were talking about Asia, not immigrants in the US

Edit: my point still stands on East Asian racism against the Japanese, and that does (for the most part) extend to families from these nations who immigrated elsewhere, not that Iā€™m defending racism, but Iā€™m explaining the why and how it could be healedĀ 

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u/BradyTheGG 1d ago

And all slave owners from America have long been dead. You see the problem?

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u/SnooPets6197 2d ago

"havent" so youre telling me everytime the Japanese government makes a statement thats connected to wars, apologizes about their warcrimes, to you lot, they never apologized? you guys dont even watch their program now people like you still come up with "japan never apologized about their warcrimes" like damn, even i thought the Chinese were the only one who kept shouting "japan never apologized" but here we are

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u/Mindless-Major-1173 2d ago

Technically, the Japanese government has made apologies, but Japan unlike Germany did not have to apologise, and it only in late 80s to early 2000s that Japan made any apologies, but almost all of the apologies were to Korea and they were all general and unsincere, all of these apologies were just for trade agreements and some of these ā€˜apologiesā€™ actively worked to erase Japanese war crimes, like recently the Japanese government tried to remove a statue made by Korean comfort women survivors. Most of this is because of Japanese ultranationalism, especially in the government where many of the people were or had parents who were war criminals and Japan actively works against knowledge on Japanese atrocities, so a large portion of the Japanese people just donā€™t know what happened, itā€™s really only in the governments who were victims to Japan who teach this

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u/Head-Memory9279 2d ago

Tbf the Japanese don't really have the best history, search up the Nanjing Incident...

spoilers: "civilian BEHEADING competitions"

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u/VBgamez 2d ago

They started the how many babies can we throw into the air and impale on our swords as they come down challenge before it was popular.

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u/Head-Memory9279 2d ago

Yoooo I love that one! I also love the human jerky trend! It's so fun to watch~

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u/Visual_While8468 2d ago

generally we got philphines occupied from late 1941/1942 too 1945 china with them kill a lot of chinese people unit 731 etc, korea with them taking over the whole north and south from i believe 1900 ish and maybe maybe vietnam/indochina area unsure if they did any war crimes tho. those are the ones that come to mind but definitely more i donā€™t remember

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u/VBgamez 2d ago

its ok they gave us a cool looking bridge in Hoi an, Vietnam.

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u/Head-Memory9279 2d ago

I know. I'm just bringing up the insane war crimes they commited on the Chinese. They of course occupied the philippines, and let's just say they gave them a similar treatment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_massacre

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u/UnusualSource 2d ago

I'm a Filipino and I love all asian and Japanese

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u/TheSmartDog_275 13 2d ago

Iā€™m 25% Filipino and donā€™t really hate anyone

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u/BluLemonGaming 2 MILLION ATTENDEE 2d ago

I'm a Filipino and I hate everyone and Japanese

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u/Fancy-Kitchen-2637 2d ago

I'm not Filipino and I hate you

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u/ChamomileBillionare 2d ago

My boss is Filipina and she used to live in Japan and loves Japanese people and Japanese culture

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u/Anxious_Insurance_48 2d ago

I'm Filipino and that's not true Some People are racist to the Chinese too, Some people call them "Ching-chong", "Chekwa", etc.

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u/blank_ryuzaki 2d ago

Why japanese ?

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u/VBgamez 2d ago

because of the unspeakable horrors that they committed during ww2 across SEA.

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u/Minimum_Owl_7833 1d ago

And east Asia

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u/freidrichwilhelm 14 1d ago

Filipinos(here in the Philippines idk abroad) arguably hate the Chinese more, largely because of the South China Sea issue and general anti communist sentiment. Coupled with exploitative Chinese run scams and other unethical ventures. Most Filipinos are largely apathetic or ignorant towards history, it's part of the Filipino mindset to always look at the immediate rather than past or the future. You'll have a hard time trying to find anyone who genuinely hates the Japanese the same way modern Koreans do. You're more likely to find Filipinos who hate other Filipino ethnic groups.

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u/Ace_Katty 1d ago

And China for the sea thing

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u/SquishyBlueSodaCan_1 17 1d ago

My parents are Chinese and theyā€™re the same except they donā€™t like South Asia too

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u/letthetreeburn 2d ago

Oooooh thatā€™s not an immigrant thing, have you SEEN how racist Koreans in Korea are

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u/KoreanChiikawa 1d ago

Have u even been to Korea or are these just shit u saw on the internet

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u/Maximum_Change_6377 1d ago

Itā€™s true though lol. They dislike anyone who doesnā€™t fit beauty standards or is of another ethnicity. Basically the darker you are the less they like you. Yeah, it sucks, but itā€™s 100% reality.

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u/KoreanChiikawa 1d ago

Why did you delete your comment.

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u/letthetreeburn 1d ago

I didnā€™t, but I can understand why the mods did.

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u/i_wanna_cry_0v0 2d ago

yeah thats basically asia bro. im chinese and i hate koreans. and everyone hates us. Ė‰_(惄)_/Ė‰

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u/Hamlet_irl 13 2d ago

wtf did Koreans do to you

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u/i_wanna_cry_0v0 2d ago

really just the minority. kpop and drama people. or im just racist, im completely open about it.

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u/United-Refrigerator6 1d ago

I think this is the funniest reason to dislike Koreans considering how both countries are total cesspits. The dramas are pretty harmless.

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u/CarpenterJolly3504 2d ago

Iā€™m Korean too do they actually hate other Asians with a burning passion personally or is it just like a byproduct of how we talk about Japanese or Chinese people? We call them ģ¼ė³øė†ˆ/ģ¤‘źµ­ė†ˆ(not to their face, maybe when thereā€™s a villain in a Korean movie thatā€™s Japanese or something) but we donā€™t ever mean it maliciously, itā€™s just that the person is a bastard and Japanese/Chinese so we call them that. My parents arenā€™t very anti Japanese though so maybe weā€™re just not normal

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u/ssprix 2d ago

Ong same except for the Korean part

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u/KcTec90 16 2d ago

my korean mom could care less if abt ur race, religion, if ur gay or not, etc

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u/SmoothNoonShade 2d ago

Worked in SF for 20 years and can confirm the Koreans hate everyone else in Asia.

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u/Automatic_Cod4414 2d ago

I am planning to shift usa after usmle ..... Your parents have to face one More šŸ˜‚šŸ˜†

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u/mike_litoris18 2d ago

Yeah you're talking about something different. This sounds more like the competitive racism of the Balkans.

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u/Responsible-Mind579 15 1d ago

Nah we live in Europe and they hate other immigrants too. Their hate for other asians is just more strong

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u/Miserable_Wrap_5005 1d ago

nah fr, they act like they just unlocked some special pass n everyone else gotta stay out, whole time they was the new ones too šŸ˜­ itā€™s mad hypocritical and lowkey funny