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Discussion Fr tho like why are so many immigrants racist

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So I'm Indian and some of my family in the US who are all first gen immigrants are all so racist and don't want immigrants coming in from other countries like why are you so hypocritical 😭😭😭

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u/Deep_Head4645 16 2d ago

I would also get pissed if i went through a long and difficult process to get the privilege of citizenship and then i would see some bloke who broke the law to get it.

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u/After-Property-3678 18 2d ago

Ive been in the US for 10 years seeking asylum(legal way as many racist people love to say it) as of now I don’t even hate a date for my hearing and I hate how long this process has been, and I couldn’t care less if someone else gets it done in a year or two, in fact I’m happy that they don’t have do deal with what I have to 👍 sure I can’t complain much as I have a SSN and working permit, putting me ahead of a lot of people but doesn’t mean is slow asf

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u/Hour_Manager301 2d ago

"couldn’t care less if someone else gets it done in a year or two" what id they didn't do it at all?

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u/QubeTICB202 2d ago

Then that would suck for me but empathy! Happy for them

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u/this_upset_kirby 1d ago

I don't think they deserve to be deported for it

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u/Odd-Spare161 1d ago

I know a guy who was undocumented- crossed illegally from Mexico and worked as a day laborer for a few years. Eventually he got citizenship, and now he's the biggest snob about undocumented people.

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u/crastin8ing 1d ago

literally my stepdad

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u/Calvesguy_1 19 2d ago

"Curing cancer is unfair to all the people who died of cancer" type shit.

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u/Deep_Head4645 16 2d ago

Again, stupid comparisons

Its not a disease or a thing that only does bad, its laws, a process, that you follow to gain the privilege of immigrating to a country, seeing others just break the law and get it will absolutely piss you off.

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u/Fine-Degree5418 19 2d ago

Yup, we should simplify the Immigration process in a practical manner that still keeps a good border system, but letting others simply break immigration laws is shitting on EVERYONE else who did it the hard way.

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u/Calvesguy_1 19 1d ago

I don't think we should have borders tbh.

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u/RepublicCute8573 1d ago

Love that youre getting downvotes for calling out an antiquated system designed to protect the wealth that colonists stole from the people they screwed over. Same with the idea of this post, most southern states were Hispanic to begin with and were taken by force.

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u/Brilliant-Plan-7428 1d ago

"Borders are an invention of the American colonists" Really?

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u/RepublicCute8573 1d ago

Borders and passports etc are the invention of the og colonists from Europe who used them to steal native land here as well as elsewhere, but yeah america has also used them to great effect when they took Texas, California, etc from Mexico.

Thanks for bringing up that clarification bud 👍

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u/BradyTheGG 1d ago

Tell that to the Great Wall of china (it was a border wall) pretty sure it was built before America was discovered. Borders are important because without borders, anyone can get into the country. A terrorist could enter into your country or a r8pist. Borders exist for a reason.

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u/Calvesguy_1 19 1d ago

Your racism is oozing.

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u/Calvesguy_1 19 2d ago

As expected from a Floch pfp

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u/Deep_Head4645 16 2d ago

Its a good character bro

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u/lowchain3072 15 2d ago

as expected from a jd vance pfp

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u/Then_Product_7152 1d ago

How many illegal immigrants do you know? Or are you just mad because others are telling you to be mad

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u/Deep_Head4645 16 1d ago

Oh yeah right i gotta know all of them before i comment on the situation

Because thats an argument apparently

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u/Then_Product_7152 1d ago

I never asked if you knew all of them? Just if you knew any, but it seems like you dont and are just mad for the sake of it.

You might actually be brainwashed. Let me guess you started caring about immigration around the time MAGA came into mainstream media?

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u/BradyTheGG 1d ago

And you personally know illegal immigrants and can speak on their behalf?

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u/WaywardInkubus 1d ago

“I pay my fair share of taxes, while you keep millions to yourself without paying taxes? Good for you! Exactly how it ought to be!” type rebuttal.

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u/bUl1sH1T 1d ago

undocumented immigrants pay taxes 💀

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u/Calvesguy_1 19 1d ago

That's completely different. In what ways does someone else's immigration process being faster hurts you?

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u/AdVoltex 20h ago

🤦‍♂️

He isn’t talking about other people’s processes being faster, he is talking about the people who SKIP the whole process by arriving here illegally

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u/WaywardInkubus 1d ago

“Completely different” my ass. A legal and illegal immigrant are both drawing from the same pool of resources, with the difference being one of them hasn’t earned it and doesn’t deserve it.

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u/Calvesguy_1 19 1d ago

If everyone is draining resources who's making them?

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u/Ask-For-Sources 1d ago

Undocumented Immigrants pay taxes and into social security while they don't get most government/social security support:

https://taxpolicycenter.org/fiscal-facts/yes-undocumented-immigrants-pay-taxes-and-receive-few-tax-benefits

The IRS gave out specific ID tax numbers for undocumented immigrants and didn't share that data with immigration agencies, and millions of undocumented immigrants are using that.

Of course, now that Trump changed that and forced the IRS to share that data with immigration agencies, all the immigrants that wanted and did it right as much as they can are now the ones being easily found and picked up by ICE. 

Experts warn loss of $313 billion in tax revenue if immigrants stop tax compliance due to fear.

https://www.visaverge.com/news/irs-develops-large-system-to-share-millions-of-taxpayers-data-with-ice/

Meanwhile the tax money that is used for the ICE budget is trippling, because housing, feeding and guarding a hundred thousand of those undocumented immigrants in ICE custody is quite expensive and them not having a job to feed and house themselves isn't exactly ideal from an economic perspective.

The White House’s proposed budget, aka Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill,” has earmarked $75 billion in additional funds for ICE operations. The bulk of that spending, around $45 million, would go to increasing the government’s capacity for adult detentions and family residential centers. 

https://fortune.com/2025/06/26/fortune-500-companies-active-contracts-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-ice/

Thank god, the vast majority of those $45 million will go to private companies that have an incentive to spend as few as possible from that flat fee per immigrant that is paid by your tax dollars. At least a few people on top can make big money from keeping conditions during indefinite imprisonment as bad as possible. 

And of course, in Trump's USA, it doesn't matter if you do it "the right way" anyway. You remember the "Haitians are eating the cats and dogs", those that came to the US as legal immigrants?   They are now illegal too:

The move will affect immigrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela who flew to the U.S. under a Biden administration program, known as CHNV, that was designed to reduce illegal immigration at the U.S.-Mexico border by giving would-be migrants legal migration avenues.

A total of 532,000 migrants entered the U.S. under that policy, which was paused soon after President Trump took office, though it's unclear how many have been able to secure another status that will allow them to stay in the country legally.

The Department of Homeland Security said it will seek the arrest and deportation of those subject to the policy change if they fail to depart the U.S. in the next 30 days.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-to-revoke-legal-status-of-over-a-half-million-migrants-chnv/

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u/OldPiano6706 1d ago

Those papers come with all the benefits of being a citizen though. If you’re in the country undocumented, you don’t get to experience a life like a normal citizen.

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u/RepublicCute8573 1d ago

Such a dumb ahh take. Someone who went through the system should realize exactly how racist and exclusionary it is. People with valid applications get turned down for any number of ridiculous reasons when all they're looking for is a chance at a new life.

Those who went through the process before should have empathy because they know the struggles firsthand.

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u/Furista0 1d ago

Those who went through the process before should have empathy because they know the struggles firsthand.

Nah, fuck 'em. Deport ALL of those illegal shits

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u/Then_Product_7152 1d ago

You are still young and ignorant. Hopefully you grow out of it

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u/Terpcheeserosin 2d ago

"I hate when I have diarrhea , and the next person who uses the toilet doesn't! They should suffer like I had to!"

Not trying to argue, this is just what it sounds like to me!

Borders are imaginary, workers rights for everyone!

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u/Deep_Head4645 16 2d ago

What kind or comparison is that

Enough with this.

Countries have borders. Countries are sovereign. Immigration is a privilege and no “worker” is inherently entitled to it, its not a right.

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u/Terpcheeserosin 2d ago

My point was that if workers rights were respected around the world, immigration wouldn't even matter

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u/Deep_Head4645 16 2d ago

I don’t understand the point at all or the way you tried to make it seem reasonable

Sorry.

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u/franz_fazb 19 2d ago

Following the fucking law is not "suffering" lil bro it's just what honest people do.

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u/CellaSpider 15 2d ago

What is dishonest about being gay in Afghanistan? The law isn’t morality.

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u/BradyTheGG 1d ago

Isn’t that more of why the US separates government from religion

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u/CellaSpider 15 1d ago

Well gay marriage wasn’t legal in all 50 states until 10 years ago, and it’s still got a lot of evil laws. As a rule of thumb, your moral code shouldn’t be based on whether or not the government says it’s wrong but whether or not you believe it’s wrong due to your principles. It stealing is wrong because the government says so then the homeless man who stole a loaf of bread from wal mart is as evil as the billionaire who stole billions of dollars just because they could. If your morality is built around something else, you might get the same results, or different results, but they wouldn’t change every election cycle.