r/teenagers • u/[deleted] • 2d ago
Serious Most men are not raped by other men.
The original slideshow is made by TheTinMen on Instagram. I’m making this on an old throwaway account because when I tried to do this on TikTok I got a bunch of racist threats get sent towards me in my DMs for a while.
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u/LectureNervous5861 14 2d ago edited 1d ago
Fuck rapists! Edit: Not like that 😭
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u/2006trananhduc 18 2d ago
Actually don't
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u/SpecialistFelt389 3,000,000 Attendee! 2d ago
What about them getting a taste of their own medicine in prison
(Dear Reddit admins, this is just a joke answer, please don’t ban me again, I’m not being serious)
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u/The_Unintelligence 15 2d ago
Jokes on you, they're into that shit
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u/SpecialistFelt389 3,000,000 Attendee! 2d ago
Well, there’s also the other thing that sometimes happens to them in prison, and it’s a lot more painful
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u/theHrayX 18 2d ago
this reminds me on how a serial 🍇ist in my city got that and the entire city screamed KARMA
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u/MSter_official 18 2d ago
I said this in a much more detailed way once and got banned for a couple days as well
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u/The_Unintelligence 15 2d ago
Wouldn't that make us the very thing we want to destroy?
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u/-p4p3rc4t- 2d ago
When I say justice for rape victims, I mean justice for ALL rape victims. All genders, races, ages, scenarios, EVERYBODY. As one myself, that shit is traumatizing. It's horrible. So I hope everybody can heal from their experiences.
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u/Omegadusk OLD 2d ago
Yeah, the act fucks with your head majorly. Thing is males are often ignored in this matter. Which is fuck up because a majority of male victims are children.
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u/-p4p3rc4t- 2d ago
It is very fucked up, I agree. It upsets me so much to see victims ignored just because they don't fit the stereotypes of a what a rape victim is "supposed" to look like.
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u/mah_ekil_i 1d ago
AKA, a woman. Because heaven forbid that a guy is anything but 'lucky' when someone lays hands on him. It's dogshit.
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u/-p4p3rc4t- 1d ago
Even some advocates for SA victims push this ridiculous rhetoric. They refuse to believe anything but very specific scenarios with a woman as the victim and a man as the abuser, when in reality, most cases won't fit that description. And statistics for these rarely mean shit, they're skewed. So much goes unreported and people get away with horrific things.
Male victims usually aren't taken seriously in ANY scenario, not just rape either.
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u/Seeker_Of_Hearts 1d ago
I'm a male victim (made to penetrate by a childhood female friend at a party) and finding this post and your comment made it just a tiny bit easier for me to go through the day. Thank you and 100% agree!
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u/TopCharacter1553 2d ago
I wonder how long before this gets the locked comments award
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u/Risottoxic 14 2d ago
Sorry, but what is this award exactly? Forgive my ignorance.
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u/The_Unintelligence 15 2d ago
Not really an award. Mods just lock the post so we can't comment anymore.
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u/Juniko_Shoga 17 2d ago
I think they are not being literal, like there's no actual award, it's just that comment section gets locked
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u/aoiaxure 14 2d ago
I wanna keep a comment here for when that eventually happens but I don't know what to type
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u/MizReddit0 17 2d ago
Same, so I'll type "same"
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u/General-Company-3061 15 2d ago
And that is why we hate all rapists.
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u/Creatingthetyler 2d ago
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u/General-Company-3061 15 2d ago
Yassss
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u/The_Unintelligence 15 2d ago
The heck did they say?
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u/in-yo-walls 2d ago
prob smt violent if it got removed
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u/Creatingthetyler 2d ago
I said all rapists have to d*e and it got removed 🥀
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u/in-yo-walls 2d ago
yeah thats why it got removed because it's a bit violent but it's entirely true and a correct opinion
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u/Interesting-Chest520 19 2d ago
The thing is, with sentencing, you need to have a balance to protect victims
If the punishment for rape it too high, such that is matches/exceeds murder, or such that - weighted against the fact that a corpse can’t tell anyone what you did - the possibility for getting away with murder outweighs the punishment for rape, many rapists would just murder their victims so they can’t tell anybody
There is a similar issue with pedophiles. If you punish all pedophiles (as in, offending and non-offending) the same, many wouldn’t have an inclination to hold back. Also, the stigma around it leads to many pedos not wanting to reach out for help, leading to them bottling it up and being more likely to offend
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u/Disastrous-Monk-590 16 2d ago
Not true because of allegations. Up to ~7% of rapists are actually innocent and were wrongly convicted, so killing them and then realizing a few thousand were innocent is gonna go over well
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u/muggyranger1212 15 2d ago edited 2d ago
Whether it's a dude or a girl what changes the circumstances?
Edit- this is a rhetorical question
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u/FantasticFoe143 2d ago
I think usually when A says "men get raped too" B says "well usually they get raped by other men", this post says otherwise
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u/muggyranger1212 15 2d ago
I understand. The question is rhetorical.
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u/FantasticFoe143 2d ago
Oh... sorry Im stupid 🤦♂️ though I do agree with you, whether its a man raping a man, a man raping a woman, a woman raping a man, whatever, there's not really a difference
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u/Camille_le_chat 15 2d ago
Some people think men can't be raped
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u/Shot_Organization507 2d ago
Because past generations had the wrong idea of what rape was. They boxed it in to 2-3 scenarios and thought men could only be raped by being drugged or over powered by jail mates or hillbillies. People have always been pretty ignorant and dumb.
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u/Solis_CS 1d ago
1/4 people in the current world believe a man would ENJOY being raped. They know what it is - they just don't care because they aren't women
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u/2006trananhduc 18 1d ago
Or, more commonly, that women can't rape
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u/medic-in-a-dress 14 1d ago
A family member of mine was raped multiple times by a teen girl when he was a kid. She got off scott-free because of this exact belief 🤮
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u/eggward_egg 3,000,000 Attendee! 2d ago
Nothing does. The problem is that cases where women are perpetrators are often overlooked because of the man wasn't penetrated. The post is to highlight how that is misleading.
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u/ionwywh 17 2d ago
thank you sir. i’m a male victim of rape from both genders, and i’m glad to see that more people are seeing how big the abuse is. if anyone has a few dollars to spare, donate to 1in6 pls people, they help victims of male rape in all stages
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u/squid3011 14 1d ago
Im also a male victim of both genders and I 100% agree. Also, even if you cant donate, checking on your mates has a huge difference, one of my best friends who was completely unaware of what had happened just by asking and me telling helped me a ton, and it probably helped stop me kill myself or do something rash. Online support groups can be great but ive had a bad experience with them so i shy away.
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u/FormalTall1800 1d ago
online support groups tend to be shitty for anything trauma-related. my mom said that when she was dealing with my younger sister’s medical issues, every single support group she joined was horrible. we just avoid them now.
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u/squid3011 14 1d ago
yeah, but im sure some people have found help with them otherwise they wouldnt exist
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u/VideoGame_Trtle 1d ago
Jesus, man, I’m sorry you went through that. This world can be unforgiving asf sometimes.
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u/Fun_Mode_5671 16 2d ago
i’m a guy who was sa’d by 3 males before the age of 10. I got really pissed when my academy (high school) sex ed teacher told my class that men can’t be raped or assaulted sexually. I reported him and he got in a lot of trouble. If i hadn’t known, i would have lived thinking what happened to me was normal. Just think about that.
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u/OldAssociation7639 1d ago
I hope you can recover from your trauma, that teacher was talking bullocks
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u/BottleOfVinegar 16 2d ago
Yet, I’d bet money we’ll see plenty of people making lame excuses in the comments, defending the current definition of rape, or trying to make it a challenge.
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u/ABChow000 17 2d ago
Who tf can defend the fact that a woman who forces a man into sex gets much less of a sentence and sometimes even let off from jail time compared to a man who does the same act and gets 10-15 years.
A man who is “ raped” actually is only assaulted under law and definition.
A woman who is raped is raped.
Horrible act but both should have same punishments
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u/The_Unintelligence 15 2d ago
Can't wait to sort by controversial
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u/Wojtek1250XD 17 2d ago
Such a funny feature. What other platform has a dedicated FILTER specifically to see people tear at each other?
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u/atlascrafting 13 2d ago
Lol this is 2nd on controversial
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u/EmmaDepressed OLD 2d ago
The gender of the victim isn't important. Everyone should be protected.
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u/Cozy_Kale 18 1d ago
It's fucking sad how people are framing this. The anti-female anti-feminism rethoric in the comments is just disturbing. Like how remotely can a mother being happy their son gets it.
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u/sourskittles98 16 2d ago
Here before this post gets locked. I hate when attractive women rape people and everyone says the man must have “liked it.”
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u/MrGamerOfficial 17 1d ago
Super ultra mega hot take (don't click if you're easily offended): Rape is bad
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u/Old_Arugula3014 2d ago
misandrists are coming in comment section soon.
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u/Innocent-pup 19 2d ago
Misandrists are more on tiktok but yeah you can find those creatures here on reddit too
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u/Wojtek1250XD 17 2d ago
Twitter. Twitter is bsaically their capital.
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u/theHrayX 18 2d ago
twitter is owned by a far right guy....
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u/The_Dogelord 15 1d ago
Yeah, twitter is for the radicals of both sides
You've got the "alpha male" misogynists, and the misandrists
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u/Innocent-pup 19 2d ago
I think it’s both then but lol but here on tiktok they spread Misandry then cry when they get attacked lol i made on so mad once they went into my dms and revealed their whole ahh address telling me to come n fight em 😭😭😭
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u/Plane_Opposite6744 13 2d ago
I'm confused by the chart, but i think I get the message. Justice for ALL rape victims.
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u/Fickle_Cartoonist500 14 2d ago
Ahh yes, finally I'm here before it gets locked
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u/geisterlesi 2d ago
My English isn't good enough for stuff like this
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u/SkibiddiDooblin 2d ago
Basically it means when you account for the men being forced to penetrate (use their fingers/penis due to force), it is majority woman committing rape against men.
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u/Happy_Autistic 14 1d ago
Boys and men get raped and no one bats an eye but it's a huge thing when females get raped?? It doesn't matter the gender because they'll be left with permanent scars and trauma that will never ever go away. Can you imagine how much it hurts if you told someone you got raped and they downplayed it or 'congratulated' you for having sex. No it's not sex it's rape. Male on male,female on male,male on female it doesn't matter because rape is rape either way. My best friend and I met at a therapy group for rape victims and it hurt to hear him talk about how no one cared and said he wanted because he was gay.
(Honestly I don't remember why I was ranting about this ;-;)
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u/KorvKung69 13 1d ago
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u/Fast_Ad7203 19 2d ago
Rape is any non consensual sexual acts
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u/Cute_Tea_2012 2d ago
That's sexual assault, rape is still legally, for the purpose of the law and prosecution defined as penetration with a penis, fingers, or other objects.
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u/theHrayX 18 2d ago
Why tf is there a seperation of terms
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u/fruitydazaifan 17 2d ago
I was always told the reason for the separation was that while sexual assault and rape are both traumatic, rape (defining it as only forced penetration like in the law, since said law is what we're talking about) can cause harmful physical affects on top of the mental ones that should be accounted for when deciding on the punishment for the crime.
For example, for women, forced penetration/rape could risk causing pregnancy, while what the law defines as sexual assault can't. For both genders, but especially for men, forced penetration can cause serious physical damage to the body that sexual assault alone cannot.
Accounting for this, them being separate crimes with different levels of punishment makes sense to me. However, in common speech, they do not have to be used separately.
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u/Cute_Tea_2012 2d ago
Because that's how the laws work. It's not just rape, assault and battery are two different things, theft and burglary are different and so on. In laws you have to be very specific about what's what, kinda why lawyers are a thing.
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u/xx_tian_xx 18 2d ago
Yet both leave victims equally traumatised and violated most times unfortunately
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u/Knightmare_CCI 19 1d ago
I mean that's just plain incorrect
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u/Fast_Ad7203 19 1d ago
WHAT DO YOU EVEN MEAN
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u/Knightmare_CCI 19 1d ago
??? What do you mean what do I mean? That's like saying murder is any violent act.
Grabbing someone's ass is sexual assault. Not rape. Like... by definition/classification.
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u/SirKingCraff 2d ago edited 2d ago
It's true that most rapists are men but I think the main reason for that would be because men have more of a physical advantage in this field, if you would call it that, comparatively to women. Men would also be less likely to report rape attempts because they may not see it as an attempt. It would be easy to just see it as a girl being pushy when their rape attempts go no further than just attempts due to physical disadvantages.
Also the fact that the definition of rape hasn't changed to become usable in the case of both male and female rapes is troubling considering how much equality is being pushed nowadays.
Changing it to something like, "The act by which sexual interactions or acts are forced, by one or more parties, upon an unwilling recipient/unwilling recipients," shouldn't be too difficult.
Infact, rape should be classified under sexual assault. Rape is a classification created specifically to punish men for their wrong doings, and that's fine, however the vagueness in it's overall description makes it easy to abuse in that rape crimes are punished much more heavily than sexual assault crimes. I might be able to go as far as to say rape is a sexist classification created to isolate the crimes of men from women to punish them more heavily for committing or participating in similar acts.
Overall, my take is that rape is bad.
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u/Stevenage9 16 2d ago
what is this tryna prove obviously there are more straight rapists because there are more straight people in the world
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u/Ioanaba1215 13 2d ago
There’s a bat batch of people who argue that “only men rape” which is obviously false to anyone with a functioning brain. And when told that the rape ratio is around 50/50 will try to argue that it’s all or mostly man on man perpetration, OP (or whoever made this slideshow) is showing that, that is not the case. It’s also important to know this information because a lot of people have a wrong perception of it
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u/HeroBrine0907 18 2d ago
This is an important statistic because oftentimes when male rape is mentioned, even in contexts where it is not used as a gotcha for feminists, people tend to mention that most perpetrators of male rape are men too, which is why it is a men's problem, and also that it is too rare to spend resources dealing with. This is a rebuttal against those claims that reduce male rape as an issue.
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u/BreezyBee7 16 2d ago
A male perpetrator against another male is probably going to be straight. It's not about attraction, it's about inflicting power and control.
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u/EggCouncilStooge 1d ago
Rapists often go after kids of whatever sex they have the easiest access to because they have the greatest vulnerability, even if they’re not attracted to kids or the same/the other sex. It’s about access and minimizing risk.
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u/Lucy_147xD 2d ago
Yes but the majority or rapists (in general) are men, which makes people think that most men are raped by other men, so someone made this slideshow to disprove that myth
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u/Gerald_Fred 2d ago
I don't know why you're being downvoted, bit you're right!
The myth is that rapists need to PENETRATE in order for it to legally count as rape (hence the third slide of the post) so it's assuming that men are the only rapists because of it.
The post is saying that ain't true, hence the sixth and seventh slides.
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u/Grand_Heresy OLD 2d ago
I think the assertion that "the majority or rapists (in general) are men" might've gotten people to downvote.
Idk why, it's just true.
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u/Mojomitchell 1d ago
Sure, but this just the men who came forward. The ones assulred by women don’t really come forward. Because most people would say high five or something equally terrible. We should want justice for everyone!
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u/Western-Bus-1305 2d ago
It really bothers me that some people are only willing to acknowledge male SA under the caveat that “it’s usually men doing it” which obviously isn’t true. Tells you that they really don’t give a shit about the victims and only about making sure women look better
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u/EggCouncilStooge 1d ago
Who are some people who do this? You can find some worm saying anything for attention, but are they relevant or meaningful in any sense?
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u/FalseBodybuilder-21 15 1d ago
Honestly we need to add "being forced into any sexual action" under the rape umbrella. Also, we need to actually help male rape victims instead of laughing at them and making fun of them because this is genuinely disgusting
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u/sexypanini6 17 2d ago
We should take all victims of rape seriously and all rapists should face justice regardless of what gender they are. We can all work towards this by amending the definition of rape to include being forced to penetrate and to ensure that the justice system isn't broken, especially on issues like this.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with anything, but its important to note that these statistics are for intimate partner violence specifically.
https://www.cdc.gov/nisvs/documentation/nisvsReportonSexualViolence.pdf
https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/2022-11/nisvs-2016-2017-final508.pdf
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u/ThorvaldGringou OLD 1d ago
"I want to see the user who did this good job"
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Fallen soldier.
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u/therudereditdude 19 2d ago
dont worry, of the ca. 12 million men all were of course told to suck it up and that they propably liked it, as mandated by the guide of ethical and compassionate treatment of male "victims" (cynical)
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u/Camille_le_chat 15 2d ago edited 2d ago
Here before it gets locked!
Also let's check after sorting by controversial, I think it will be fun
Edit: found nothing interesting unfortunately :(
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u/kubisfowler 2d ago
Man today I discovered r/teenagers soo happy, and what the hell are these topics, 9/10 pure rape talk
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u/Major-Driver-9989 16 2d ago
Just a reminder that the concept of a human centipede originated from a conversation about what's the best punishment for rapists <3
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u/GreenDragon113 2d ago
I could say something, but i won't, because my teacher now knows what my reddit account is and i fear for my life and grades
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u/KuroBunnnn 1d ago
i really feel so terrible for male victims. hearing their stories and how people responded when they tried to speak up is so disheartening.
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u/whimsicalandsilly 1d ago
The fact that the definition used skews the data that much is so fucked up. It's about the violation of consent, not who's getting penetrated
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u/thepearlshipper908 14 1d ago
Again. It's not a competition, but this research is good. Rapists ain't good guys and should be castrated or whatever the Fem equivalent of that is.
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u/Savings-Welder-7949 2d ago
and with this guys, even gender doesn't matter. This only further proves its the meantality of the criminal. I wonder for how much more longer we'll be living in a world where drug dealers get more punishment than r@pi$t$... and the v!ct!m will feel ashamed and not the one who did it.
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u/No_Editor_1010 18 2d ago
I still think we should use rapists as test subjects... Whatll they say? No??
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u/Ok-Hall-9974 16 1d ago
Don't lock it
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u/LowMorning2832 14 1d ago
even worse, the mods already deleted his account off the subreddit 😭
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u/IntelligentAnybody55 14 2d ago
I’m so confused by the diagrams but get the idea. Not a fan of the definition
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u/ultimate_chaos08 16 1d ago
I’m honestly confused about this, I thought women being able to r word people was by forcing themselves onto the victim, and by this definition of it, it makes me more confused
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u/lavafish80 OLD 1d ago edited 1d ago
some of the people in this comment section are awful. But most of you understand
Can we stop putting down male victims and start lifting up ALL victims, male, female or otherwise. Everyone deserves justice and no one deserves to go through such a horrible event.
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u/Crazy_problem_child 15 1d ago
So ... mostly it's:
Men are rped by women and women are rped by men? ... would make sence
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u/no-punintended0802 16 2d ago
Rapists are inhumane I don't consider such people even should have human rights
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u/Stickmemer25 2d ago
Well looks like we need to rewrite the definiton of rape so everyone is protected. And it's not gonna be easy when the current world is slowly but surely going from patriarchy to feminism.
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u/Muted_Rain8542 15 2d ago
Watch this get locked 🤦♀️ Rape is horrendous and all rapists deserve to rot in hell
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u/KidpoolStan OLD 1d ago
shit like this makes me wanna become the punisher fr, or at least have a real life punisher, cause sometimes, i feel like we all need a little bit of frank castle
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