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u/AccordingBake4201 15 1d ago
can say this is true from personal experience. anyone can SA and anyone can be SA'd
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u/Ok_Performance729 17 1d ago
Vouch, it’s fucking disgusting
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u/DifficultyOk7468 1d ago
What's a SA
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u/Illuminex-XD 1d ago
Sexual assault
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u/Academic_Addition_96 1d ago
All this coded language is just getting out of hand.
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u/Awkward_Ad774 16 1d ago
Agreed. This just downplays the word/sentence. that's not what you want to happen with words like rape or sexual assault because it kinda makes it lighter and less disturbing
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u/TerribleJared 1d ago
Vouch, nothing is more insulting than being denied empathy because i was "supposed to enjoy it"
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u/Tusiaartist 1d ago
It's stomach-churning when I hear phrases like this (as a girl). People who say these phrases should really stop and think what it would be like in the victim's shoes. Like, just imagine going through some traumatic sh#t and you have some f#cking dumbass say this to you. It's evil. So f#cking evil. It would probably make some victims feel guilty, some feel enraged by such words said to their face, and definitely all feel a deep and profound sickening feeling within them when hearing such vile and foul words.
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u/Fenrys_dawolf 1d ago
it's just mostly men that do it. at least they can still be president.
the attitude towards women that SA and men and boys that are SA'd is terrible and are whole issues too.
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u/Key_holeN12 1d ago
at least they can still be president
In alot of places women can become presidents, they usually don't because there arent alot of female candidates
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u/kingcabbagethe1st 14 2d ago
it's because the majority of reports of it on the news are that of a man assaulting a woman. not that im saying there's some double standard by any news outlets, im just saying that's a big reason for this.
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u/Geschak 1d ago
It's not just news, it's statistics. While men do get sexually assaulted too, the vast majority of sexual assault is committed by men.
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u/Powerful_Intern_3438 1d ago
How often men commit sexual assault and how often they are victims of sexual assault are 2 different statistics. That men commit sexual assault more doesn’t mean that male victims then also don’t make it in the news as much.
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u/SlugCatBoi 1d ago
Well, if thing x happens more frequently than thing y, then thing x is likely to appear on the news more often.Edit, I actually read what you wrote, I see what you mean. thing x doesn't/shouldn't affect how often thing y shows up on the news
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u/iwishicouldteleport 1d ago
False. Cardiovascular disease is the leading cause of death in the world but how often do you see heart attacks on the news. Plane crashes are rare af, but you hear about them literally anytime they happen.
The news is a lie and a false representation of reality. Anyone who trusts it is living a lie.
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u/SlugCatBoi 1d ago
I was gonna try and refute this but I agree with the major points. Thanks for clearing that up.
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u/Hawkey2121 18 1d ago
>The news is a lie and a false representation of reality. Anyone who trusts it is living a lie.
Not fully correct, not fully wrong though either.
You shouldnt be using the News to create the "100% accurate worldview of reality™", sure.
But more often than not, the events are real. (this doesnt mean always, Fake news is a term for a reason)
News outlets go for the Big Things, because those get the views.
Plane crashes are rare, thats why you hear about them. Because its a BIG THING.
Heart attacks are much more deadly globally, but also much more common, if every heart attack were to reported on the news, it wouldnt work. It literally wouldnt work. too many are happening.
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u/aseedandco 1d ago
Men are committing sexual assault against other men too. That fact isn’t shouted loud enough.
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u/Solis_CS 1d ago
It's constantly shouted - the problem is it's used as a lie to gloss over that the majority of those who victimize men are women, not other men - and to invalidate the affliction of male victims because somehow sharing a demographic with the person who victimized you means you don't matter.
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u/WinninRoam 1d ago
That's because sexual assault by women has yet to progress beyond a joke. There are mainstream comedy movies where women raping boys is practically the core theme of the film.
I've seen women angrily strip school-aged boys of all their clothes in full public view, and everyone seemed to laugh it off as "Oh no, mommy's pissed now! Haha!"
If a man did it, he'd certainly be arrested and probably risk being a registered sex offender for the rest of his life. But a woman? That's hilarious? 🙃
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u/NullifyI 18 1d ago
The probably with statistics when it comes to this is that they’re self reported. The likeliness of men going to the police and reporting sexual assault is way lower than it is for women.
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u/Confident-Estimate-8 19 1d ago
I assume the majority of the cases when men are SAd are ignored and humiliated. I researched some materials and it shows that 10-35% of SAd men report it (the research with the worst percentage suggests 10-20%).
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u/birdsofafeatherWHAT 22h ago
Very brave to assume the courts don’t ignore and humiliate female SA victims. It’s rigged to humiliate victims
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u/mustangs_n_reptiles 18 1d ago
to add to this: the majority of men who are sexually assaulted are assaulted by another man.
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u/BannanasAreEvil 1d ago
No it's because the legal definition of rape requires penetration upon another person. Otherwise it's only sexual assault. Made to Penetrate isn't counted as rape and therefore when stats show men are mostly raped by other men it's not a lie, as the legal definition of rape makes it nearly impossible for women to rape men. Yet when you look at the CDC and look at the stats of made to penetrate and the assailant you see the gap between men and women shrink dramatically!!!
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u/Confident-Estimate-8 19 1d ago
No it's because the legal definition of rape requires penetration upon another person.
The law reforms suggest that if a woman forces a man to penetrate her, it can be classified as rape (over that man).
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u/macawww- 1d ago
Not really? It's just that men are more likely to not understand they were assaulted by women since society taught them that "every woman's touch is good, doesn't matter you consented or not", so even if they were raped they don't perceive/never talk about it since they get called gay for not liking it or are just dismissed entirely. As a woman, women can be gross and creepy too. They aren't perfect angels that do nothing wrong. People have a tendency to dismiss any case of assault if committed by women (even in woman to woman cases). You are being really biased
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u/Epicael 17 1d ago
Don't forget that most of the time when a boy is a victim, the term "rape" is not used, it is only said that the perpetrator had relations with the him.
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u/Significant-Order-92 1d ago
Not just the news. Reports heavily skew that way as well. A few reasons have been presented as to why that may be. One is that even when a female abuser of a male victim is reported, it often doesn't get the severe treatment it should. So male victims may not realize they are the victim of a serious crime or not believe it will be taken seriously.
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u/psych0kinesis 1d ago
No its because men commit 96-99% of rape... its not that the media is hammimg it up... those are the real stats.
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u/No_Durian_9756 1d ago
1 in 6 men have unwanted secsual experiences
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u/Clintwood_outlaw OLD 1d ago
It's actually more, but many men don't believe that their experiences count, so they don't report them. And even if they did, we are often ridiculed, mocked, berated, and bullied heavily for speaking up
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u/No_Durian_9756 1d ago
"Maybe just man up" "Be a man" "Grow a pair" "Stop being so childish" "Toughen up" "Your a man! Your supposed to be strong." "Real men dont cry?!"
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u/FinlayPWR 1d ago
according to a study by the guardian, 1 in 2
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u/No_Durian_9756 1d ago
I was going off statistics in my country, i dont doubt that at all, and even if it wad 1 in 6 itd be more like 1 in 3 because of societal norms of being manly and man up
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u/Scared_Hamster1143 1d ago
I'm 1 of the 6. Even I myself struggle to see it as something that really happened and I still blame myself for not just pushing her off me when I had the chance. You are violated then emasculated too.
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u/LeafyLizard 1d ago
Depends on context usually. If you talked about it out of the blue to raise awareness and understanding, you’re good. If you heard a woman talking about how scary it is to be a woman with the fear of assault by men, and you went “UM, ACTUALLY…” Then it makes you look like a prick, like you bring it up just to muddy the conversation.
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u/Cock_Robin69 17 1d ago
That's basically this comment section though. The guy is talking about men getting raped meanwhile these dumbasses are saying "b-b-but majority of rapists are men".
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u/mustangs_n_reptiles 18 1d ago
well, yeah, the majority of rapists are men. even with male victims, the perpetrator is still most often a man. acknowledging this fact is important when speaking up for male victims, because male victims may feel that they'll be shamed if they come forward about another man sexually assaulting them.
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u/Solis_CS 1d ago
This is true - only because women can't be charged with rape under the most common circumstances which they commit it. A woman forcing a man to penetrate here - i.e. forcing an unwilling person to engage in non-consensual sex - cannot be charged with rape in most developed nations.
If you write the definition of a crime to say only one demographic can commit it - no shit that demographic is going to show up disproportionately
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u/mustangs_n_reptiles 18 1d ago
someone brought this up in a response to me on a different thread, and you're right, i forgot to edit my comment to reflect that. however, when you include forcing a man to penetrate in the definition of rape, the ratio is 56:44 women to men. that is an almost even division between male and female perpetrators. it is still true rape, in general, is still committed by men the vast majority of the time and that should be acknowledged and addressed by society as a whole. my being wrong that men are the most common perpetrator in the case of male victims does not disprove the point of the original comment, that point being that male victims are often victims of other men and should not be shamed for that.
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u/IFeedLiveFishToDogs 16 1d ago
It’s the photo saying that people other than men SA not that men get SA’d?
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u/poroprop 17 1d ago
Idk whay SA means😭
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u/manhuntfanboy 16 1d ago
San Andreas
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u/kingcabbagethe1st 14 1d ago
welcome to san andreas, im CJ from grove street. land of the heinous, gang bangers and cold heat.
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u/OfficerBalls139 1d ago
In Los Santos, neighbors get no sleep
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u/Computer-Novel 17 1d ago
Beefin' with anybody competing, even police!
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u/Able_Imagination1702 1d ago
NGL I honestly thought this was referring to the Nazi storm detachment at first
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u/Lucky-Opportunity395 1d ago
Agreed. Too many people just take the sides of only blaming men, only blaming women, or thinking that we are somehow all equal of this. It should be common sense that men commit SA to an overwhelming majority compared to women, but this doesn’t mean that women can’t rather.
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u/Usernamesareuseful 1d ago
I'm not against this message, I fully agree in fact, but every single teenage sub I see either talks about this and a comment war starts under each post or post about pedos or be islamophobic. What happened? It wasn't like this before.
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u/Kenny_The_Bone 1d ago
Can confirm.
Was raped by an attractive blonde when I was 16.
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u/NovaTheEevee 17 1d ago
As a woman who was SA'd, I hate hearing men don't get it. My best friend had it happen and yet when we tell our stories people only sympathize with me.
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u/Tusiaartist 1d ago
It feels weird when you think about it, especially since men are the ones who do it most and are known for it mostly. However, it is absolutely unacceptable for a woman to do too and is sad and unjust when dismissed.
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u/Andromedan_Cherri 1d ago
"90% of rapes are done by men-"
Yeah, and what percentage of men actually rape?
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u/psych0kinesis 1d ago
When studies use self-reports with careful wording (for example, describing acts rather than using the word “rape”), results tend to converge around the same ballpark:
General population surveys in the U.S.: Between 4–8% of men admit to acts that legally qualify as rape.
College campus studies (often more scrutinized): The number admitting to rape or attempted rape ranges from 6–12%, depending on how the questions are framed.
When you broaden it to any form of sexual assault or coercion, the percentage climbs into the 10–20% range.
To be clear: these are self-admissions, not convictions. Many men underreport even when surveys anonymize answers, so these figures are often seen as conservative minimums. The actual rate is likely higher.
So the blunt answer is: at least 1 in 20 men—and possibly closer to 1 in 10—commit rape in their lifetimes. That’s disturbingly high when you think of it at the population scale.
Only 3% of men confront their friends when they make a rape joke as well, its the men that uphold this system.
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u/_XxAphroditexX_ 1d ago
Depends on WHERE you’re saying this. Most comments like this come from a topic of a SA victim whose attacker was a male. You will in fact get these looks, not bc no one wants to hear that woman do it too but, bc you’re being a shitty person, undermining someone’s assault to make it about gender wars.
HOWEVER,
If you’re saying this in your own context then yeah, this is a real issue. A lot of people refuse to see males as victims when the attacker is female simply bc they think the victim is “lucky”. This toxic ideology that little boys getting with older women is the coolest thing ever is too problematic. To this day so many people don’t even realize that they ARE victims of grooming bc of how romanticized this trope was. This is why it’s important to inform all children that dating someone older is not cool, it’s a crime. It’ll help more children avoid this situation and allow more people to acknowledge all victims of SA no matter the gender of their attacker.
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u/Andromedan_Cherri 1d ago
This. Personally, I think the gender war is one giant distraction perpetuated by media companies, but that's a conspiracy for another day.
The number of people still trying to use the 90-95% range as a justification for ridiculing and hating normal men is insane. So much for people wanting equality.
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u/Bowies_Blackstar 1d ago
I know many men who were sexually assaulted by men and women and many women who were sexually assaulted by a woman or a man. It goes both ways
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u/AcademicAcolyte 17 1d ago
I’ve never heard anyone say this but sorry if you have. More men that others but it happens a lot more than it should, which is not at all
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u/SgtVertigo 1d ago
Isnt the majority of it committed my men? (Im genuinely asking this is what I always assumed)
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u/Zombieneker 19 1d ago
Okay? A majority of it does come from men though, so it makes logical sense to focus on that first. You don't fix climate change by eating vegan.
Though what you're referring to here is probably an experience of someone not reading a room. When sharing trauma, it's not fun to be "um, actually"-d
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u/putyouradhere_ 1d ago
Yeah no shit sherlock but the vast majority of abusers are male and the majority of victims are female because the patriarchy is systemically misogynistic.
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u/ArabAesthetic OLD 1d ago
It's obviously true but there's absolutely something to be said about any fucking time a woman expresses anger towards men broadly as a result of her abuse some dumbfuck, know-it-all asshole interjects with "ermm ackshually SA isn't inherently a male problem."
YOU'RE NOT BEING SMART. You're not more woke and based, you're just being an asshole.
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u/lospibesbuenstulabro 1d ago
"SA by men is taken more seriously" "SA by women is taken more seriously" Shut the hell up bro 💔🥀 they are both taken seriously, if little Timmy goes and says that some gender SA doesn't matter doesn't mean that type of SA is not taken seriously by society
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u/Gorgondingo 1d ago
Majority of it comes from men. Even men are more likely to be sexually assaulted by other men going by statistics. I’m not denying women are just as capable as men, but that is what seems to be the case
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u/birdsofafeatherWHAT 21h ago
Depends on the topic of discussion. If you say this in the middle of a gender politics discussion it’s a valid reactions. Because from most stars they surprisingly don’t. The exact stats globally I think was “93–97% of sexual violence perpetrators are male.” Whether is male on male or male on female I can’t remember. Now if you wanna say there’s underreporting sure valid. But this even crosses to other crimes where almost 90% of perpetrators are male.
Now, If it’s in a male rape discussion people are very willing to talk about female rapists. I mean very few are denying females can’t. I mean it would be stupid to. They’re alive and sentient so they can commit evil just as easily. If you go online the he’s so lucky jokes aren’t necessarily made by women either but other men. And furthermore I wish that was me jokes weren’t made by women either but once again men. Are female rapists seen as less threatening. Of course. Patriarchy dictates the female is weaker, stupider, and yet at the same time a Jezebel. How could any man be a victim to that. Thus victims are seen as idiots. But the Jezebel seductress asked for it stereotype also fires back on female victims and they’re not believed either. It’s just rapists are so often men it’s impossible not to record.
I promise you if women committed 90% of crimes there would be no doubt about the link between crimes, gender and class. But for now people will focus on race and ethnic backgrounds instead since it’s easier. Okay tangent over. In short this is valid in every way but I can see why some people may “dismiss” (dismiss not deny) it in online politics.
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u/NoResponsibility6552 19h ago
This is such an edgelord post.
Especially with the political charge it has.
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u/prettynpunk0 19h ago
The majority of the time, it's from men though. This is how we continue to downplay SA and the REALITY, that it's MOSTLY men commiting it. Is it all men? No. Are the majority of perpetrators men? Yes. I'm sick of seeing dumbass posts like this
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u/Sensitive_Pick_4212 1d ago
all of the people in this comment section saying "but 95% of it is done by men" kinda prove the point of the post
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u/Andromedan_Cherri 1d ago
Too true. Anyone who supports equality would recognize that that number has an incredible amount of nuance and a bunch of asterisks next to it.
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u/Important-Western416 1d ago
That awkward moment when someone mentions how most men who are sexually assaulted are assaulted by men
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u/nunca_pasaran 1d ago
And yet it’s disproportionately committed against women and queer/trans people.
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u/UnfurtletDawn 1d ago
Well duh, male victims are excluded by definitions and female perpetrators are excluded as well.
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u/nunca_pasaran 1d ago
Not saying there aren’t male victims just that regardless of what definitions you use the statistics are overwhelming, despite a meme on Reddit.
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u/Solis_CS 1d ago
They aren't. The CDC finds the yearly number of men "forced to penetrate" nearly identical to the yearly number of women raped. 80% of these men report only female perpetrators. If a 55/45 or 60/40 split is "overwhelming" enough to completely disregard a large minority and consider something "gendered", then domestic violence would suddenly only be recognized as a men's issue, as women have higher perpetration rates.
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u/Cultural_South_2459 1d ago
except, in many countries, men legally can't be raped (as in, it isn't recognised). plus, the definition of rape means that it legally doesn't count when a woman forces a man to penetrate. also, many men don't even realise they've been sexually assaulted or raped, because they either don't realise men can be raped, or they don't realise women can rape. i'm not saying it isn't mostly men, but until these things change, i don't exactly trust these statistics.
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u/mustangs_n_reptiles 18 1d ago
i can explain the reason for this. not that it's valid, of course, but there is a reason that men legally cannot be raped.
rape was originally considered a property crime against the father or husband of a female victim. rape was seen as damaging the woman, the father or husbands property. men were not seen this way legally. this is just one of many examples of patriarchy hurting men.
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u/Andromedan_Cherri 1d ago
And yet we've moved beyond our archaic ways, and the majority of the world recognizes it now.
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u/Tenibrys 1d ago
If you think this way I think thats more telling about you as a person than "muh patriarchy."
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u/UnfurtletDawn 1d ago
Their own source also supports that they can't. It's from before the definition was changed.
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u/_eepy_weirdo_ 1d ago
No actually. Because of how rape is stigmatized, 99% of men do not tell anyone when raped and most don’t even realize they are raped
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u/theHrayX 18 1d ago
Exactly
Men are the attackers in most known rape cases. However, the common definition of rape often ignores when a woman forces a man to have sex. This is because old-fashioned ideas suggest men always want sex and women can only be receivers. This makes it very hard for male victims to report it or be believed. So, female rapists are rarely arrested, especially when the victim is an adult man.
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u/IFeedLiveFishToDogs 16 1d ago
The statistic that the OG comment is referencing also takes into account male SA cases and in most of those cases it is another man SAing a man.
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u/Likelysomewhathuman 17 1d ago
This is completely misleading. Considering the majority of the time, when the victim is male, the assailant is female, and 9% of rapes have a male victim, the math leads to at least 4.5% of rapists being female. It’s because of the outdated frankly stupid definition of rape necessarily being forced penetration, instead of what it should be, just non-consensual sex.
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u/UnfurtletDawn 1d ago
Report from 2002. At that time the definition of rape was "the carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will"
Your question also isn't better or more important because by your own source out of which you got the "99%" the number is 0, absolute zero and not just men but boys included, absolute zero.
Also I wasn't able to find the source for the "99%" claim, throwing the report from 2002 into Google doesn't show anything.
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u/JustProduct3048 1d ago
redditors try to read and verify their sources challenge (difficulty: extreme)
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u/TurbulentDragon 18 1d ago
Actually, global studies in 2022 showed that men SAing others can be as low as 93%
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u/No-Director-6738 1d ago
One word: Reported
That's only from reported cases. Men are often times socially conditioned NOT to report it
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u/pleasenopleaseplease 1d ago
It's true that it's not just men, but the MAJOR MAJORITY comes from men so I think male abusers need more focus getting rid off atm
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u/UnfurtletDawn 1d ago
Nope, in many countries it is just men by definition.
And of course it will be mostly men when women are excluded from being a perpetrator/men are excluded from being a victim duh.
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u/Perfect-Proposal-688 1d ago
Men usually dont report it. And the definition of rape is a forced penetration, not being forced to penatrate. I have 3 friends who were molested and raped by woman. Only 1 tried to get the law involved. THEY. DID. NOTHING.
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u/Harald_The_Archivist 18 1d ago
It’s hell. British law states that rape is penetration of a woman by a man.
They did nothing. Didn’t even try. You know what we were told?
Man up.
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u/Liliosis 1d ago
I agree on this fact.
The only time saying this makes you look like a prick is when you bring it up when people talk about women’s rape. Men’s rape and women’s rape are both horrible, and using one to downplay the other is abhorrent behaviour.
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u/BlackDoomEnthusiast 15 1d ago
Well duh. Sonic Adventure was made by many coders and developers, many female and many male.
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u/Ajay_Alder_Apollo 1d ago
Honestly? It's bull. No one will believe you if you say "I was sa'd" as a boy no one will believe you if you say "I was sa'd by a woman" It's just messed up in all honesty
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u/No-Big2111 17 1d ago
Anyone can be SAed and anyone can SA. Even if one thing is more spoken about, there still are many cases of other variables (like men SA other men or woman SA men/woman). Let's remember to help the victims and clarify who are the sexual assaulters to get them on jail.
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u/Someone_1937 1d ago
How mfs look at you when you say "sexual violence is culturally, statistically and institutionally a male problem" and NOT "every single man ever in history ever yes even your best friend is 100% a rapist and girls don't ever do anything bad ever"
Critical thinking at an all-time low
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u/Chickenpocksbaby 1d ago
I think the reason people believe men are supposed to enjoy being SA’D is because they think he’s in control in some type of way.
Getting SA’D as a girl by a man is supposed to be empowering for men because he had his way with a girl and/or the girl “wanted” him(misogynistic). So whenever male victims come out from being SA’d by a man or woman, some people’s brain are like “wait, but didn’t his ego boost/didn't he win?”
But yeah, it is sad.
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u/easymanwer OLD 1d ago
Honestly, many people believe "men cannot be victims" or "men cannot be raped." It's a complete insult towards male victims rights and male survivors rights. There needs to be more male victim rights and male survivor rights awareness.
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u/StarfireNebula 1d ago
I normally don't comment here because I'm an adult.
That being said, I underwent gender transition some years ago and in the peer groups and social circles I've walked in, I've heard a lot of people say a lot of things about SA, and based on what I've heard other people say and upon my own lived experience:
All kinds of people perpetrate SA.
All kinds of people experience SA. (including my early 20s male-presenting self being inappropriately touched while working a closing shift at a fast food place - perp was an older bisexual man)
And unfortunately, some people who perpetrate SA are people who are looked up to as "community leaders".
Stay safe out there and exercise good judgement.
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u/lavafish80 OLD 1d ago
I assume this is in response to the other post so I'll repeat what I said there:
let's stop putting down victims because they're "the wrong gender". Anyone can be a victim. It's important we lift them up, let them tell their stories, get justice for them, and make sure we can find a way to reduce things like this from happening, since completely stopping it from happening entirely is unfortunately impossible (though I propose peepee guillotine as a solution)
tldr: stop telling victims they're not victims because they're men
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u/Psychologically_odd 1d ago
Here we go again, people talk about mens rape, people shit on them for it. Guys, this post isn't about women. Make a different post for that.
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u/Primary_Rough_2931 1d ago
Too many lonely children, no parent to shelter them, no friend to cherish, and no officer to dispose of dangers with. Is this the new Sodom for some? Because we can already see a veil of it.
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u/Theo-the-door 1d ago
I think it may have something to do with the fact female survivors can't bring up anything anymore without male ones feeling talked to. "Why do we say dead men don't rape if women can be rapists too :( boo hoo" Brother... Brother it's a direct response to "dead girls Can't say no" which was a pop culture statement for YEARS. this ain't about you. This fuckass sentence has been on shirts. That's one of the reasons dollskill is on the boycott list.
Male survivors need support and awareness, yes, I will personally dropkick anyone who says this tired old "man where was she when I was 14" bullshit, But cmonnnn we can be a little more aware than we currently are.
And that's coming from a guy who was personally victimized by both women and men btw
Idk we should prolly also make our own slogans in response to the copypaste responses. Can't think of any rn tho
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u/BreakfastDue1218 16 1d ago
can we PLEASE not start this shit up again equality good love everyone amen
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u/Crazy_problem_child 15 1d ago
As I read the statistics, men are mostly SAed or rped by women and women are mostly SAed or rped by men
I guess straight people (even thou in the past, men, mostly those in churches, SAed or r*ped little boys, were they closeted gays or just couldn't find girls?(
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u/Wallso2010 15 22h ago
And it's also only ever including the victim being penetrated, never being forced to penetrate
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u/fedricohohmannlautar 20h ago
I'm a biological male. When I was 17 years old, I had my graduate's holyday, and some adults (all of them mothers of other classmates) came to act as chaperones. When I were in the hotel, in a moment I can't remember it well, one of these mothers (I don't remember who was, I don't remember her name, face or voice) hug me since my back, and told me something weird to the ear, so she grabbed me and give a long and weird kiss in my neck. I entered in panic but I didn't do nothing. In a moment she went and I can't remember nothing hours earlier or later. I "forgot" of this moment for years until I "re-remembered" it some months ago. I feel disgusted, useless and stupid when I remember it. Regardless of that, I still considering that holyday one of the best periods of my life.
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u/Business-Industry108 11h ago
Tbh a lot of men invalidate men who've been sa'd by women with the "I wish that had happened to me"
Women invalidate them with "you're strong enough to push her off"
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u/ch3nsasa 11h ago
???? I’m gonna get downvoted but nobody said only men SA and if they did they’re just rage baiting lmaooo😭😭
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u/TDOT-Official 15 1h ago
While this is 100% correct, this argument is usually used by people who want to dismiss the severity of SA by saying “but women also do SA!” to make men seem as better people
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