r/trans4every1 • u/InflameBunnyDemon • 4d ago
Media Look I ain't gonna sugar coat this this is both fucking horrifying and funny at the same time. This is not the win some want to think it is.
Poland Farright politician falls in love with trans woman and leaves his party for her
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u/Kyro_Official_ Google trans rights 4d ago
Going to add some context here and also someone elses comment with even more context bc the dude is still a raging nazi.
She was intersex and assigned male at birth
But it is important context here. He denies that she is trans and says she is a "real woman" (whatever this means to a rightwing nut), they just made a mistake by assigning the sex at birth and that's why it absolutely isn't interfering with his radical far right and anti-LGBT stance.
He basically pretends that intersex people aren't queer and that's why he is in the clear.
He also says he only left his party, because he doesn't want his politics and his personal life to interfere.
Unfortunately this is not a story of a bigot coming around because of love. He is still a radical anti-LGBTQ+, antisemite, racist and xenophobic asshole who not only supports his countrys criminalisation of queer people, but still thinks they are not going far enough.
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u/InflameBunnyDemon 4d ago
Can you give source to your claims I want to post this on rLGBT so that people are more informed but don't want it to be a "trust me bro" type of situation.
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u/Kyro_Official_ Google trans rights 4d ago
Well, I just took this information from a comment on the original post on the main lgbt sub, so I dont have the sources myself.
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u/InflameBunnyDemon 4d ago
Well I can't post it there as correction to it with no actual proof of it and since it's from Poland it'll be hard for an English speaker to get actual information. Can you ask the user to give you link to proof that this is in fact not what they thought it was so I can make a correction post.
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u/Arya_Ren 4d ago
I'm from Poland and I can tell you that while since the reveal he hasn't said anything publicly regarding his opinions, he did take part in counter protests to pride parades in his home town. Basically, we will have to wait and see. Maybe he's changed for good, maybe he's a hypocrite.
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u/InflameBunnyDemon 4d ago
I did actually do some research on them both on things reported about and found that the model is a traitor that agrees with the guy and the guy is just an awful Nazi so there's no hope for a change.
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u/Fifthfleetphilosopy 4d ago
German news have reported her as inter for a few days, I believe.
It's sadly 4 am, not going to dig up a source for you now '
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u/FakeBirdFacts They/them 4d ago
This is one of those things where people are going to crack jokes about her “deradicalizing” him but, we all know what actually happens.
The same thing that happens any time a bigot dates/marries the minority they are bigoted towards. Abuse, violence, and fetishization.
I hope she is okay.
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u/Part-time-Rusalka Transfem Punk Rock Girl 4d ago
I have no idea who she is, or what this is about so I found looked up her name. Here, for others like me who only speak English:
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u/BodyPillowz 3d ago
So is she intersex or trans? Or both?
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u/Ken_Obi-Wan 3d ago
The article says "Michalina Manios, who was born male" so definitely trans, I'd say.
But some see being trans as a form of intersex and a lot of intersex people are also trans. And the Daily Mail also probably doesn't know much about all that anyways, so I guess there's no point in trying to get any clear answer from them about that. And I personally also don't care about her sex characteristics at birth (and don't know why you would) anyways. If she wants others to know, you can probably find it online and if she doesn't, that's her very right.
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u/CatButtForYou 4d ago
Thank you! I couldn't believe the og thread was 90% "aww how wholesome, she fixed him!" 🤮
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u/CanofBeans9 4d ago
Whoa there, intersex people can be trans. She was designated a birth sex that doesn't align with her gender, that's what being trans is. Incorrectly assigning male or female happens with a number of intersex variations.
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u/sys0fac3tz shi/fae/it/hy/shy/ae/xhey/hesh + xenos (ask) | queerdo 4d ago
"traitor"? how? lol.
i'm intersex and trans.
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u/InflameBunnyDemon 4d ago
She agrees with the views and the ideals of the far right fascist by her own words that were reported on the reveal and also I'm sorry about that I meant to correct that she is both but some thought that she wasn't intersex as well.
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u/sys0fac3tz shi/fae/it/hy/shy/ae/xhey/hesh + xenos (ask) | queerdo 4d ago
oh, alr, thx for elaborating!
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u/Xandra_The_Xylent 4d ago
Trans people attempting to take a win challenge. Fucking impossible. Dipshits. Its one less fascist, and one more ally. Count your fucking wins. Hand wring about the rest afterwards.
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u/Illustrious-Wrap-776 4d ago
Not sure about "one more ally", but one less active fascist is a plus at least.
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u/WeKnowNoKing 3d ago
Someone being less of a fascist doesn't make them an ally, the guy is still basically a Nazi and he is still highly homophobic
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u/hourofthevoid 3d ago
Silence Cissy
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u/Xandra_The_Xylent 3d ago
this one is funny
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u/hourofthevoid 3d ago
Wow it has a sense of humor. I'm shocked.
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u/Xandra_The_Xylent 2d ago
i mean, i am trans, you dingo, thats why its funny
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u/hourofthevoid 2d ago
Lol you think I'm just going to take your word for it? You can say you're anything on the internet. No indication of being trans on your profile =/= you're not really trans, you just wanna pull the "as a trans person" card
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u/Xandra_The_Xylent 2d ago
you can believe what you want. i dont care. and would it be that safe to out myself on the internet, as i have just done?
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u/daylightarmour 4d ago
Ofc, she's a young, thin, able bodied white woman.
"Can you believe this transphobe is dating a trans woman? Guess he got over his bigotry"
He got over it enough to fuck her. That's all. I think we've all met bigots who've done the same.