r/ukraine • u/nOMnOMShanti • Apr 04 '22

WAR CRIME This image of Zelensky’s face while visiting Bucha today says it all.

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u/velveteenelahrairah 🇬🇧 & 🇬🇷 Apr 04 '22 edited Apr 04 '22

Ah, I was mistaken, thank you. (Stupid 2020s please fuck off thanks). And, having read the transcript of That Phonecall again https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-call/index.html , he has changed a lot since then - he was trying so hard to play nice with The Leader Of The Free World™ to get the aid Ukraine desperately needed, make a deal with the devil for the sake of his people against a bigger devil, and it all blew up in his face horrifically. I'll amend my post.

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u/beka13 Apr 04 '22

Plenty of US governors kissed trump's butt to get masks and other covid supplies before they just started chartering planes. They do what they have to if they care about the people.

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u/tittyswan Apr 04 '22

Yeah, that conversation was unfortunate.

You can see he's very much an actor playing a role, he even said that Trump's plane is probably better than his to stroke his ego 🤦🏻

I can see that he was doing his best for his country, pushing for defense and energy independence, but man that is rough to read.

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u/velveteenelahrairah 🇬🇧 & 🇬🇷 Apr 04 '22

God I bet he hated every second of it, though, stuck sucking up to fucking Trump because he and Putin are unscrupulous assholes that have your country by the balls. And he'd only been in office for like three (?) months before he got handed a political live grenade. Today I think the call would have gone very differently.

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u/TheTubularLeft Apr 04 '22

Could you fucking imagine having to have a phone call with Trump when, not only is he somehow potus, but you truly need something from him? My God.

Would make a good hell for putin though.

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u/DSiren Apr 04 '22

Guys, give Trump some credit. Obama didn't send lethal aide to Ukraine. Up until Trump, the assistance was only in uniforms, vests, medical supplies, and communications systems. Under Trump the Javelins, Stingers, and other lethal aide started.

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u/Amorphium Apr 04 '22

Source?

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22 edited Apr 04 '22

This seems comprehensive and links this article which is from a left leaning source with a headline explicitly stating the proposition in its headline.

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u/Amorphium Apr 04 '22

thank you :)

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u/tittyswan Apr 05 '22

Yeah but also they weren't blackmailed to get the things from Obama sooo. I'd say it evens out.

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u/sltyandsweet Apr 04 '22

i tried reading this and within like two of trumps sentences i was fucking done, took me back to a reality I wish I didn't witness but shit it was comical at times.