r/ukraine Apr 04 '22

WAR CRIME This image of Zelensky’s face while visiting Bucha today says it all.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22

That's true, there is an opposition. We must support those Russians while selectively starving out the others. Slava Ukraini.

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u/crash_crash_crash Apr 04 '22

Heroiam slava! 🇺🇦

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22

Indeed!

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22 edited Apr 04 '22

Eh, they're racist and homophobic as fuck

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u/Junior-Accident2847 Apr 04 '22

So fuckin' killem huh? You out there killing homophobes in your country? Do you practice what you preach?

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22

Nice bot account name

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u/Junior-Accident2847 Apr 04 '22

Nice nonargument.

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u/LongPiglets Apr 04 '22

So now we wish death on anyone racist or homophobic? Is that really the logic you want to use?

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u/Zykatious Apr 04 '22

Yes?

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22

Based.

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u/redkeith Apr 04 '22

Based beyond based

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u/Aarondhp24 Apr 04 '22

We do not wish them a peaceful and comfortable life, if that's easier for you to swallow. They laugh while their country imprisons, rapes, and murders innocents. They don't deserve sugar and deodorant.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22

Is it wrong to let the kid touch the stove to realize its hot? Or do you just keep telling him not to do it.

They fucked around, now they should find out.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22

You’ve got the right idea

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u/tinteoj Apr 04 '22

I certainly wouldn't shed any tears.

Edit: I'm bi. The homophobes want me dead. Why is it on me to be the bigger man? If the homophobes were gone my life would be a whole lot safer.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22

I'm not bi, in fact I'm a straight white american. I literally can't imagine having to live in fear because of something I can't change. My fiancée is black and we're slowly getting into the process of buying a house. The affordable houses are in areas where she would not be able to feel safe just because she's black.

We have a ton of work to do in the states, but it's nothing like Russia. In conclusion all of Russia can go fuck it's collective self.

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u/Hobbitcraftlol Apr 04 '22

Theres a huge difference between “want you dead” homophobes and your random political/church homophobes who just dislike it.

Why does this sub have to be so extreme in opinion, people either say all Russians should die or they say that no Russian wants to be involved in this.

Grow up and realise that opinion is a spectrum holy fuck.

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u/tinteoj Apr 04 '22

Why does this sub have to be so extreme in opinion

Because the Russian invasion absolutely sickens us, as do Russian shills and apologists.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22

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u/tinteoj Apr 04 '22

Somebody else is going to have to cry for the dead Russians. All of my tears are going to go to their victims.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22

Read your sentence again:

So now we wish death on anyone [who foster deep hatred and wishes death on our peers - simply because of their skin or sexual preferences]?

YES YOU EMPTY CAN OF A MAN

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u/LongPiglets Apr 04 '22 edited Apr 04 '22

Right cause fuck due process of law, let’s just line em up and shoot them because they hold different beliefs from me and (in your opinion) can’t possibly be swayed otherwise. That sounds insane to me, sorry

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22 edited Apr 04 '22

Wish death =\= killing

Different belief =\= deep irrational hatred

If your 'different belief' is that people are less because of their color or what they do in bed: I also wish nothing good onto you. Sorry.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22

Just to point out, it's the Russians crossing a boarder and lining up to get shot. If they were not inVaDiNg a country, they would not be targets.

If the people advocating for Russia would advocate for Russia to pull out of Ukraine, there would certainly be fewer legitimate Russian targets.

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u/MrLexPennridge Apr 04 '22

Yes because when you let them live and they get power they try to destroy the constitution of the United States or they get motor cycle gangs to assassinate every suspected drug user or they invade sovereign, peaceful territory and threaten* nuclear war

Those are just 3 contemporary leader examples The people who support them are just as bad

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u/LongPiglets Apr 04 '22

Just so we’re clear, you’re advocating not only murder, but murder of a propagandized and misinformed civilian population? Do you not see how similar you sound to all those horrible leaders?

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u/Neekoheh Apr 04 '22

Nah bro. I see where you're coming from and subscribe to your ideal, but don't tell him what to think.

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u/Junior-Accident2847 Apr 04 '22

If I see someone wishing death on an innocent person caught up in political chaos, I'm not going to be silent.

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u/Neekoheh Apr 04 '22

Hypocritical as what I said was. Educate I guess

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u/gramb0420 Apr 04 '22

whatever it takes to convince the poor that its time to eat the rich....is necessary

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u/Junior-Accident2847 Apr 04 '22

...this is the one instance I'll approve of violence. It's the base violence necessary for change.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22

Good point. It’s just hard not to have anything besides pure hatred for these people when they laugh about innocent men, women, and children getting slaughtered. I don’t really want an entire population of people to starve and die, but seeing families get blown up, hospitals get bombed, defenseless civilians get executed sickens me to the extent that all I want, if but for a moment, is to see the same people laughing about all this claw through rubble to find their lost loved ones. It’s a sick thing to wish for, but I’d be lying if I said that’s not what I want every time I hear about another bombing in a civilian zone in Ukraine.

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u/Junior-Accident2847 Apr 04 '22

Good point. It’s just hard not to have anything besides pure hatred for these people when they laugh about innocent men, women, and children getting slaughtered. I don’t really want an entire population of people to starve and die, but seeing families get blown up, hospitals get bombed, defenseless civilians get executed sickens me to the extent that all I want, if but for a moment, is to see the same people laughing about all this claw through rubble to find their lost loved ones. It’s a sick thing to wish for, but I’d be lying if I said that’s not what I want every time I hear about another bombing in a civilian zone in Ukraine.

I can understand the sentiment.

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u/self_loathing_ham Apr 04 '22

I dont wish starvation on anyone. But if i had to choose between the Russian people suffering and the Ukrainian people suffering the choice is easy.

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u/Junior-Accident2847 Apr 04 '22

But you don't have to choose. No one has to starve.

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u/WhatWouldJediDo Apr 04 '22

Putin has greater than 2:1 support, as does this war.

The very nation of Russia is an enemy combatant.

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u/Junior-Accident2847 Apr 04 '22

>The very nation of Russia is an enemy combatant.

When Trump wins in 2024 and does something like Putin, I hope you'll think back to why you're wrong.

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u/WhatWouldJediDo Apr 04 '22

Yes, Trump's gonna invade Canada. Lol.

To suggest he is going to invade another country is to be totally ignorant of the difference between US politics and Russian government. There's no chance such an act would have anywhere close to the level of support this invasion does in Russia.

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u/Junior-Accident2847 Apr 04 '22

You're not thinking, you're trying to pretend you're right.

Trump (probably) wouldn't do something like invade Canada but you'd be naive to assume he can't do something that will make Americans similarly hated worldwide as Putin's invasion of Ukraine. If there's ever an incident for people to wish every American starving, I hope you stick by your beliefs and stay out of the bread line.

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u/WhatWouldJediDo Apr 04 '22

You're not thinking, you're trying to pretend you're right.

Says the guy who's argument is "this vague, undescribed thing that I'm not going to provide any specifics on could potentially happen". As if that's supposed to the basis for any sort of convincing point.

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u/Junior-Accident2847 Apr 04 '22

That's not the part of my response that was important.

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u/WhatWouldJediDo Apr 04 '22

There is no other part of your response. You tried to draw a comparison to Putin's actions you Ukraine, but didn't provide ANY detail at all because you know there's absolutely nothing that could create the kind of response Russia is seeing except for the US committing the same actions as Russia, which isn't going to happen.

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u/Junior-Accident2847 Apr 04 '22

Why do I have to lay out specifically what Trump does? It’s not an unimaginable scenario that Trump will do something that will make us that hated. Your problem with the argument is that I didn’t say specifically what he’s going to do? Seriously?

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u/WhatWouldJediDo Apr 04 '22

Your problem with the argument is that I didn’t say specifically what he’s going to do? Seriously?

My problem with your argument is that you didn't make one.

We're not talking about run-of-the-mill government corruption. We're talking about a full-scale invasion of a sovereign nation that is leading to hundreds of billions of dollars in damage, tens of thousands of needless deaths (many of them innocent civilians executed for no reason), and unimaginable horrors inflicted on those in Ukraine.

You don't just get to handwave your way to a made point by not giving any detail about what could make us that hated. The reason you refuse to do so is because you know there's nothing that actually qualifies. This is the top of the mountain. Short of Trump invading a peaceful nation for no reason and slaughtering their citizens, he can't do anything to make us as hated as Putin has made Russia because nothing else is as bad as this.

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u/tinteoj Apr 04 '22

Russia is very much a divided country when it comes to the war

Purina (That was an autocorrect. I'm leaving it.) approval rating rising after the invasion says that you're wrong.

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u/Junior-Accident2847 Apr 04 '22

Russians that live in Russia say that I'm right.

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u/tinteoj Apr 04 '22

What percentage of the 145 million people of Russia do you think you know? Maybe a dozen? Hell, maybe a 100?

So, great! The 0.0001% of the population you know are against the invasion!

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u/Junior-Accident2847 Apr 04 '22

You're extremely naive if you think its that small.

Even if it's something like 3:1, that's still A LOT of Russians that don't deserve to starve. I'll stick by what I said.

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u/tinteoj Apr 04 '22

You're right. That small percentage doesn't deserve it.

But I'm all out of fucks to give right now.

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u/Junior-Accident2847 Apr 05 '22

I can understand the sentiment

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22

Oh, but killing children and raping women is fine? wtf is wrong with you.

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u/Junior-Accident2847 Apr 04 '22

No? Who said that it was? What does it say about you that that's what you thought I was saying?

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22

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u/Junior-Accident2847 Apr 04 '22

Yeah, its a reddit moment for sure.