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u/Leberwurschd 3d ago
Then we have Igor Stalinovich Gulagov, a mafia boss who was born in prison and is forced to commit terrible crimes on behalf of corrupt Kei Gee Bee officers. Deep character development and a surprising twist: secretly, he is a liberal, freedom-loving double agent who helps American heroes stop a truly evil ultra-nationalist RuZZian who has gained control of countless Soviet dirty bombs.
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u/WinningTheSpaceRace 3d ago
There was that brief period in the 2000s when there was a dip in the number of Russian bad guys. Then they realised the population had been brainwashed so deeply that it was just easier (read: more profitable) to lean into the nonsense.
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u/MonsterkillWow Lenin ☭ 3d ago
Hollywood Russian: Evil mafia bad guy. Has murdered countless people. Constantly drinks vodka and shoots subordinates for minor mistakes.
Russian in real life: Normal people living their lives. Usually a good sense of humor, especially deadpan and sarcasm.
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u/CosmicJackalop 3d ago
Listen. If The World Is Not Enough and Golden Eye has taught me anything it's that the best Russian characters are played by a fat Scottish man
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u/sashsu6 3d ago
Which film has a Russian villain? I don’t think I’ve seen one
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u/ProofBite4625 3d ago
have you not seen a single marvel movie?
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u/sashsu6 3d ago
Oh I haven’t, I didn’t know it was anti Russian! That one who wears the American costume always screams propaganda though. I watched some of the Batman cartoons as a child and it was very American and had the police always being the good guys so the whole concept is probably projecting some kind of narrative around individualistic masculine heroes with nothing but the police helping them save the world and apparently nothing but Russia stoping them- yuck
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u/ProofBite4625 3d ago
Batman is actually DC, the rival of marvel. But in all of the avenger things, and most of the american movies (even humor type movie like "the green hornet") the bad guy is always a "russian", with what americans believe would be a russian family name, and nickname, and it's always an accent that sounds nothing like russian, and so on. Typically in Marvel they make the "Markovia" who are supposed to be russians, but morkovia would be "the republic of carrot", so you get how stupid that looks
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u/sashsu6 3d ago
Yeah that’s so dumb. I remember with Americans there was a princess film with a fake country in it and loads of Americans apparently believe it’s a real country, the same with Wakanda, that’s marvel?- that was the only one I wanted to watch but I never got around to it, don’t tell me the evil Russians invade Africa! Point is they should lay off making fake people of fake places as representatives of actual people
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u/SubstantialTale3392 3d ago
I think actors from Eastern Europe and Central Asia must feel the same way as Ricardo Darin about Hollywood since they always offer the same role.
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u/SilverHalsen 3d ago
Can't imagine why Russia is seen as the bad guy. Really strange. It's a mystery that will never ever be solved.
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u/CyanideSlushie 3d ago
When the economy is so bad the only way to accurately portray the character is with debt 😔
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u/thetraintomars 2d ago
This attitude is a big part of what ruined "For All Mankind" for me. Of couse the Expanse fanboys love it.
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u/Weirdo9495 3d ago
Quite easy. Just pick an average Russian person and ask them questions about range of issues. They'll easily look like a villain.
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u/SonyaTreviskaya 3d ago
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u/TemperatureOne1465 3d ago
Block and move on look at their sub activity
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u/SonyaTreviskaya 3d ago
If you pick an average Russian person in Russia and you ask them a political question, obviously they're gonna answer as the government says because, my dear Nazi, modern Russia is a D-I-C-T-A-T-O-R-S-H-I-P, that could get you ten years in prison just for saying "Yeah, y'know, I don't like this thing that the government is doing"
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u/MonsterkillWow Lenin ☭ 3d ago
I've actually seen videos, and they usually answer very thoughtfully and honestly.
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u/Weirdo9495 3d ago
Yeah, that is my point too. Do you see this word you used, "Nazi"? That is also part of the story about how Russia became a dictatorship. Because it is simple to point at any group, no matter which, and call them Nazis. That is how you get 25 years of Putin. That is how you get WW2 cult obsession, "we can repeat", Stalin peaking in approval ratings. Because majority of people will eat untold amount of shit and say afterwards "nazis are trying to conquer us so we must stand behind the leader no matter what". "Nazi" for Russia simply means some outsider who is perceived as trying to fight/threaten the state. Ideology is secondary at best.
And don't get me wrong, far right in Europe is of the same cloth. They just haven't taken over yet like in Russia, and i and many others will do everything to prevent it. Russia is a great warning to any remotely sane person. Too bad vast majority of Russians themselves could not heed the warnings.
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u/Frosty-Perception-48 3d ago
Russia forgave the US for the invasion. The US still hasn't forgiven Russia for remaining free.
Who's the villain here?
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u/pyffDreamz 3d ago
lol at Russia and free in one sentence , there is just as much freedom in Russia as there is oxygen on mars
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u/Alaska-Kid 3d ago
Mars is a rusty planet. If you know what that means. No? You don't? Mars is covered in oxygen.
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u/pyffDreamz 3d ago
0.13% compared to 21 for planet earth, both higher than your IQ …
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u/viktlo70 3d ago
it is quite easy, they don't know that there is a difference, for them the stereotypical version is also the accurate one...