r/warhammerfantasyrpg Moderator of Morr Feb 26 '24

Meta MEGATHREAD: Post your small questions and concerns here for all editions!

Hey everyone, please post your smaller, technical questions here. We may have directed you here from a removed post or from the last megathread.

If you don't receive an answer within a few days then do feel free to make a separate post, make sure to say you didn't get an answer here. You might also want to visit Rat Catcher's Guild, the WFRP Discord. They have a dedicated Q & A channel and can be a lot more snappy with answers then here on Reddit. This is the invite link: https://discord.gg/fzYuYwT

That's all! Special thanks to everyone answering questions for helping people out on the last thread.

Previous megathread is here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/warhammerfantasyrpg/comments/101935w/megathread_post_your_small_questions_and_concerns/

If you still have unanswered questions/topics there, you may want to migrate those here :)

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u/TheTyredMan Jul 15 '24

Hey all! New to WFRP and had some questions. For a wizard the talents Atheric Attunement and Second Sight both have max levels equal to Initiative Bonus. My question is why? What do additional levels of each of those talents have to offer? 200 points should be worth a fair bit imho. Also talents add their respective levels to the associated skills, so Atheric Attunement and Second Sight level 1 would each add +1 to channeling? What am I missing?

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u/Skrybowiedzma Jul 16 '24

If I remember correctly, every level of Atheric Attunement gives you + 1 SL to succesful Channeling Tests and every level of Second Sight gives you + 1 SL to succesful Perception Tests related to Winds of Magic.

Atheric Attunement is definetly worth investing in - at the begining of your game simply raising up the Channeling skill or Willpower will give you more than the talent, but the cost of raising up a skill or a characteristic is increasing rather fast and at one point you'll be glad if you stayed on the lower level of your career and buyed multiple levels of this talent, because getting another +1 SL from higher skill will simply be super, super expensive in exp.

How many levels of it are worth getting depends heavily on how long a camping you'll play with this particular character, I guess about 1/3 of exp you're gonna ever dedicate to raise up your channeling is close to optimal.

Second Sight typically won't be anywhere near this important, but still it may be worth buying a second time if it's very, very long camping, as the + 1 SL on Perception Tests related to Winds of Magic can give some very useful information sometimes and at one point raising up your main skills like Channeling and Language (Magic) will simply be so expensive that investing in some side-skill that you use sometimes will just be better. I'm talking about super long campains for hundreds of sessions, so it's rarely ever gonna be useful for any PC.

However, it's still good that the system allows multiple levels of this talent - this way you can create powerful NPCs like Teclis using the same rules as creating PCs and the same mechanics can apply to NPCs.

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u/BackgammonSR Likes to answer questions Jul 15 '24

Close, but not quite. They add levels to *already successful* tests. So that's not a blanket +1 SL, it's +1 SL on tests that you succeed at.

And those extra levels are just for the above bonus SLs. You don't get anything else.

Is it worth 100xp? Probably not.

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u/TheTyredMan Jul 15 '24

But the 1st level of the talent costs 100xp, then the second level would cost an additional 200xp, the third 300xp …etc.

Maybe It’s just me trying to min/max things a bit too much or maybe it’s just my PTSD from stingy experience awards from previous GMs … but that’s a whole lot of xp for very little lol.

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u/BackgammonSR Likes to answer questions Jul 15 '24

No, you're correct. Not everything in Warhammer is like mathematically well thought-out.

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u/ArabesKAPE Jul 16 '24

Bonus SL's get converted into extra damage, range, targtets hit etc. in spells which make them very useful once you have brought the skills up.