r/warhammerfantasyrpg Moderator of Morr Feb 26 '24

Meta MEGATHREAD: Post your small questions and concerns here for all editions!

Hey everyone, please post your smaller, technical questions here. We may have directed you here from a removed post or from the last megathread.

If you don't receive an answer within a few days then do feel free to make a separate post, make sure to say you didn't get an answer here. You might also want to visit Rat Catcher's Guild, the WFRP Discord. They have a dedicated Q & A channel and can be a lot more snappy with answers then here on Reddit. This is the invite link: https://discord.gg/fzYuYwT

That's all! Special thanks to everyone answering questions for helping people out on the last thread.

Previous megathread is here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/warhammerfantasyrpg/comments/101935w/megathread_post_your_small_questions_and_concerns/

If you still have unanswered questions/topics there, you may want to migrate those here :)

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u/knowledgeseekingeek Apr 17 '25

Hi,can somebody please tell me if there is any plain and simple comprehensive guide on wizard character creation and magic system

For starters I want to create high elf wizard from the core rule book but I struggle at every point,how many petty spells can I take at first level of career and how much does it cost to learn more petty spells?if I have a grimoir with,for example, uglu lore spells,can I cast them from grimoir on first level of wizard career and if not why give skill chanelling to the 1st level wizard?being high elf can I cast another magic lore spells from some other grimoir if I find one or am I obliged to first learn 8 spells from uglu lore?

Thanks in advance

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u/BackgammonSR Likes to answer questions Apr 18 '25

All magic is governed by Talents.

  • A starting wizard cannot cast any spells - unless and until they take the Petty Magic talent.
  • The description of the Petty Magic talent then tells you exactly how many spells you can have, and what XP cost is for more (you start with WB bonus spells and the first next few are 50XP each, but you are unlikely to want more)
  • Great you can actually cast spells now! Or can you? You need to invest in Language (Magick) to have a decent chance of success,
  • You must then level up to the next career, at which point you can buy the Talent Arcane Magic (Arcane Lore). This allows you to start learning ONE and ONLY ONE color lore. You do not gain any spells. You can memorize spells at a fairly expensive cost (at least 100xp), but you can now cast any spell from YOU LORE AND ONLY YOUR LORE that you find in Grimoires.
  • You can cast Arcane spells now! Or can you? Most spells are impossible or at least extremely unlikely to be cast without Channelling, so start sinking points into that.
  • As an Elf you can indeed learn multiple Lores, but must meet the ridiculously expensive requirements of having learned 8 spells and 20 points in Channeling of your previous lore. You will likely play an entire campaign and never achieve this.

Good luck!

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u/clone69 Apr 21 '25

Technically, you don't need Arcane Lore to cast from a grimoire. However, you do need both hands free to hold and flip the book, and the CN doubles for spells you don't have memorized. I don't know if you need to know how to read to actually use it.

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u/knowledgeseekingeek Apr 21 '25

I don’t?that’s great news,so does it mean I can cast any lore I choose from grimoires and the only thing that limits me is wp characteristic that tells me how many lores I can pick?though thinking about it I’ll probably still need to take channelling talent of another lore to cast other lore spells,I wonder if I can do that

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u/clone69 Apr 21 '25 edited May 03 '25

No, only those of your chosen lore (which you should set from your channeling skill). You can only have one lore, unless you are an elf and meet the requirements to learn more, which are, IIRC, 20 advances in channeling for your current wind, and at least 8 spells. You are limited by your WPB too. So if you have 60 WP, you can learn up to 6 lores. See page 238 of the core rulebook for details

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u/knowledgeseekingeek Apr 22 '25

Yeah,that’s what I thought,it would be too unrealistic for Warhammer to be that easy,so I guess Im gonna go with backgammonSR explanation

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u/Nurgle_Pan_Plagi Apr 25 '25

Guess the Elves have to wait few more editions to meet that 68 spells requirement. But if anyone got the time for that, it's them. /j.

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u/clone69 May 03 '25

Typo, indeed 🤭