r/warhammerfantasyrpg Moderator of Morr Feb 26 '24

Meta MEGATHREAD: Post your small questions and concerns here for all editions!

Hey everyone, please post your smaller, technical questions here. We may have directed you here from a removed post or from the last megathread.

If you don't receive an answer within a few days then do feel free to make a separate post, make sure to say you didn't get an answer here. You might also want to visit Rat Catcher's Guild, the WFRP Discord. They have a dedicated Q & A channel and can be a lot more snappy with answers then here on Reddit. This is the invite link: https://discord.gg/fzYuYwT

That's all! Special thanks to everyone answering questions for helping people out on the last thread.

Previous megathread is here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/warhammerfantasyrpg/comments/101935w/megathread_post_your_small_questions_and_concerns/

If you still have unanswered questions/topics there, you may want to migrate those here :)

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u/WretchedIEgg Jun 30 '25

An Ogre gifted my Party his old house in Altdorf, it has broken floorbords on the second floor, the entrance door is ripped off and the frame is damaged, one room was used for butchering and one as a toilet (it was not a toilet) and some other little stuff. I estimate the costs for repairing everything to be around 500 Gold, do you guys think this is reasonable? I didn't find anything in the rulebooks concerning property and repair costs.

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u/BackgammonSR Likes to answer questions Jun 30 '25

So the house itself was a gift, no charge right? And we are only talking repairs? To what standard are you repairing, that of a noble?

If you aim to create a "silver"-level house, then repairs wouldn't exceed 2GC and that is being generous.

Labor costs are next to nothing in (pseudo) medieval times. People are worthless. The lumber will be more expensive, but a door, a doorframe and 1 floor isn't so bad. The rest - cleaning up poop and blood - is labor. That is paid in Brass pennies and wouldn't take more than a few people a few days. Barely amounts to a silver or two.

For 500G you can buy a brand new townhouse in a nice-ish part of town.

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u/WretchedIEgg Jun 30 '25 edited Jun 30 '25

The rulebook states, that paying one person to carry stuff for a weak is considered 1 Gold and 4 silver, Writing material is 2 Gold and one day rations are 2 Silver, so you are telling me repairing a run down Ogre house is worth 20 rations?

Edit: I mean I massively overshot, but 2GC seems extremely low.

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u/BackgammonSR Likes to answer questions Jun 30 '25

Yeah as ArabesKAPE points out Rations are actually pretty expensive - regular groceries are half that.

I think a better way to calculate this is to look at the Careers and their Status. For the cleanup, let's say you hire some Menials (Servant career). They are Silver 1. Mind you, I think that's really expensive, but let's say we're trying to do this "respectably" so we hire Menials. Let's say the cleanup effort takes a week.

Then we need carpentry work (the floors, the door, etc - all carpentry). Let's say we need 1 Artisan (Silver 1) and he has one Apprentice (Brass 2). Let's say this also takes a week.

Statuses are essentially money you make in 1 week, and there are dice rolls involved, but let's assume these people are fully employed for a full week so earn their max salaries. That gives us:

Menial: 10 Silver + Artisan 10 Silver + Apprentice 40 Brass (3 Silver 4 brass) = 1 Gold 3 Silver 4 Brass total labor.

So the question is what is the cost of lumber. We have less to go on, but let's use Trading Goods. Timber varies in price according to seasons, and price is given for 10 Encumbrance. Hard to say how much of that you really need, but let's assume worst-case scenario, all 10 Encumbrance. So the price is between 1.5 GC to 3.5 GC. Let's maybe just average that to 2.5 GC.

So 1/3/4 + 2/10/- = 3/13/4. So about 3.5 GC, making max assumptions about all costs, which is pretty generous.

So, there you go.

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u/Nurgle_Pan_Plagi Jun 30 '25

Statuses are essentially money you make in 1 week, and there are dice rolls involved, but let's assume these people are fully employed for a full week so earn their max salaries.

The money you get from Income is your netto income - with taxes and daily expenses already deducted.

But according to the Hirelings rules (core, page 309) you simply pay 3x the Social Status (not the Social Status's income) for a day of work, so for example someone with a Status of Brass 1 would get 3 brass pennies per day.

So if we do go with Menials and one week of work (with one day free, so 7 working days) we get 21 shillings total per Menial.

But that is very generous considering that even someone as hard working as Miner is only Brass 4. I would say that Brass 3 is a good price for that - which is accidentaly the Status of level one Ratcatcher, who also works with a lot of shit.

So, if we get two good old Dung Collectors, one Artisan and one Apprentice Artisan it's a total of:

(2 × (7 × 9d)) + (7 × 6d) + 7 × (6/-) = 10/6 + 3/6 + 2GC 2/- = 3GC 4/-

So, accounting for lumber we get a total of 5 gold crowns and 10 silver shillings for the work and materials.

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u/ArabesKAPE Jun 30 '25

Food for a day is 10 pennies. That would be something like several cups of ale, bread, fruit if seasonal, root veggies, grain and maybe some meat. Rations are 2 shilling - rations being specially prepared, dried meals suitable for long term storage to eat on trips as refrigeration is not available.

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u/ArabesKAPE Jun 30 '25

Charege it a labour and materials cost - a cleaner is 15d per day and a journeyman carpenter is maybe 3 shillings per day. Say it takes 3 days of the carpenters time and 6 days for a cleaner then you are looking at 9 shillings + 90 d = 13 shillings 10d. Then you add in materials of maybe 5 shillings. So you would be looking at 18/10 so about a crown and a half. So Backgammon seems pretty much on the button. Maybe the damage is very bad and you double the costs, sill less than 4 crowns.