r/whowouldwin • u/Etrae • Jun 06 '13
Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes - DC Comics) vs Ironman (Marvel Comics)
Spawned from my answer to the Favorite DC character vs Favorite Marvel character post. Thanks to /u/rph39 for suggesting this was interesting enough to merit it's own post! (Editted this post to add this line. Sorry.)
Round 1
Blue Beetle and Ironman first meet with no prior knowledge of each other. The Scarab identifies Ironman as a serious threat, pointing out to Jaime the amount of weapons and apparent siege design of the default Ironman suit (Let's say Extremis era). Ironman is intrigued by the Beetle's tech up until the point where shots are fired. Who Would Win?
Fight takes places in a populated city but neither is in proximity to call on their allies.
Round 2
After the initial fight, the two manage to escape each other. Jaime is called off on a mission for the League and convinces the Scarab to back down. Ironman backs off once the Beetle is in safe enough range. Two weeks pass before the next fight. Ironman, as he often does when facing a new enemy, gets to work on a suit to counter the Beetle. He doesn't have enough time to create an entirely new suit, but can adapt one of his current suits. Blue Beetle's mission is also logging a tremendous amount of battle time, taking big steps towards having him and the Scarab in sync. What suit does Ironman use? What new Scarab ability does Beetle come back knowing after fighting for a week straight? Who Would Win?
Fight is in the same city as round 1.
Round 3
Years pass. Ironman now knows about Blue Beetle and the Scarab well enough through their fights to devise an entirely new suit devoted to it. Jaime has nearly mastered the Scarab's abilities and has come close to completely overriding the Reach orders built in. At this point, the two probably know that neither is 'the bad guy' but upon learning of Ironman's Beetle Smasher suit, tensions rise and the last remaining scraps of the Scarab's aggressiveness prod Jaime into attack mode. Who Would Win?
The fight starts in Stark Tower, the two casually discussing and reminiscing of that oh so silly time when they fought each other. Fight ensues.
Bonus Round
Ironman's Beetle Smasher suit and Blue Beetle's honed abilities with the Scarab are attacked by a hoard of Reach Scarab-using Conquerors. Who takes the most out?
The invasion is met in the Upper Atmosphere.
Bonus Bonus Round
Each of the above is attacked by a successful merger of Reach Scarab User and Sinestro Corps Initiate (as The Reach had tried to make happen at one point). 1 on 1 vs a Yellow Lantern Scarab, does either Ironman or Blue Beetle survive the encounter? Does either win?
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u/rph39 Jun 06 '13
I think Round 1 goes to Blue Beetle. I don't know a lot about Blue Beetle but what I found suggests he has the raw power to take out a Green Lantern, and that takes a ton of fire power. This is not to say that Extremis doesn't have a lot of fire power but I could not conceivably going against a Green Lantern without some of the modifications that Tony has been known to make, not to mention the Scarab is able to absorb energy and Tony usually uses his repulsors as his first line of offense.
Round 2 would still go to Jaime as from what I've seen the Beetle itself is pretty adaptable in fights which could lead Beetle to have some anti Iron Man defenses/attacks saved up from the last time they fought which would probably negate most of Stark's adaptions as Stark lacked the time to go all the way and create a new set of armor which would lead to the the fight going the way of Round 1.
As for Round 3, I think this could be a different story. When Stark has the motivation to go all out he does some crazy ass stuff to make his armor. By this point I think Stark's counter measures probably out strip how adaptable the Beetle is after having 2 fights to use to his advantage, not to mention Stark sometimes has a Batman esque need to develop counter suits for every occasion/hero. I think Stark's ingenuity takes this fight.
Bonus Round I think goes to Tony is he has access to his Beetlebuster suit. This suit was made to bust Scarabs unlike Jaime's armor which the Reach is familiar with (as they have many Scarabs of their own).
Bonus Bonus Round goes to Beetle. As I said before, Tony is out of his depth with a Lantern without a lantern busting suit. Beetle could possibly win as the Scarabs are used to fighting Green Lanterns and I believe the Scarab adaptable enough to make changes to its anti Green Lantern protocols to be effective against a Yellow Lantern.
Cool post btw, I think it was well thought out and really interesting!
*Edit: formatting