r/whowouldwin Jul 30 '25

Featured Featueing: Culture Combat Drones (Culture Series)

Combat Drone FC

Combat drones are sentient AI war machines used by the Culture filling a role somewhat like infantry in a real world army. They have a large variety of forms ranging from nanotech swarms to a rectangular box about the size of a suitcase to 10m3 cubes. This post focuses on the .1-1 meter sized drones. One thing about combat drones is that they love their jobs and don't get to do them very often. They will often prefer maximizing casualties/force rather than minimizing them unless they are constrained by mission perimeters. They aren't just perfectly happy to gun down routed opponents who have no hope of fighting back depending on the drone they enjoy it immensely. Most often they are seen in the series as part of a duo with a Special Circumstances Agent.


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Drawings

A number of feats come from the Culture: Drawings. These are Drawings made by Banks made at unknown times. There are a few elements which I think are more early concepts rather than final ideas which made it into the series proper. But they represent a fair amount of hard statistics and numbers for carried munitions which we don't get in the series. I would go with what is written in the series over what is in the Drawings if there are any conflicts but it isn't like there is a specified canon hierarchy.

Feats from the Drawings will be cut so it is just the raw numbers only including the Drawings themselves if it is somehow necessary to illustrate a feat.

Dates

No individual drone has feats in every category so feats are pulled from several different drones.

The novels of the Culture series span a bit somewhat over 1000 years between the Consider Phlebas and Surface Detail. The Drawings has things from several thousand years before the earliest novel these dates will also be included if applicable. So feats will be labeled with the date the novel takes place in.

Mostly Full RT

The full RT is only mostly complete but this is the current version.


Weapons/Firepower

Missiles

Lasers/CREWs

CREW stands for Coherent Radiation Emission Weapon they are just the Culture's term for laser weapons.

Plasma

Effectors

Effectors are the Culture's electronic warfare system. They manipulate the electromagnetic force at a distance. This allows them to take control of computers and living being's nervous systems.

Fields

Fields are versatile force fields. They can be used for protection as well as offensively to cut things.

Displacers

Displacers are the Cultures teleporters they bundle a volume into a singularity move it through hyperspace and drop it back in real space at its destination (or leave it in hyperspace). Due to how they move the displaced object through hyperspace any non-4 dimensional shielding will not block the displace.

Misc


Speed


Durability/Survivability


Using Combat Drones on WhoWouldWin

Combat drones are invisible, supersonic flying, nuclear weapon surviving, gigawatt/ton firing, machines. If the character can't somewhat compete with that they might not be the best pick as an opponent.

Combat drones can be used on their own, with their compliment of missiles, or as parts of larger units of combat drones which can get up to over 2000 armies of 72000 combat drones in the later parts of the Culture Idiran War. On the science fiction side of things they can go up against just about anything you can think from ships to ground vehicles to high end infantry though make sure whatever it is can keep up with the drone's acceleration, range and has the ability to spot it if it is invisible.

Outside of science fiction there probably are some Shonen anime/manga characters in the same speed range as the drones whom can also take and dish out comparable punishment.

Having a round with effectors and/or displacers banned isn't necessarily a bad idea. There may be otherwise decent match ups that end up being stomps because they are difficult to defend against.

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u/OneCatch Jul 30 '25

Also worth noting that the knife missile in the lift shaft in Hydrogen Sonata is a significant durability feat - it deliberately launches AM-tipped micromissiles at a target about a metre away, seemingly very confident that its own fields can fend off the resulting detonation.

Also that the 'light plasma projector' from the State of the Art - the one which can do all of the 'over the horizon curve shot' ridiculousness and eventually kills a large starship from a couple of dozen km away with a single hit - is explicitly described as 'peace rated' and is not considered suitable for battlefield use.

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u/deltree711 Jul 30 '25

TBF, their antimatter payloads can be arbitrarily small (maybe in the low picogram range?) so it's hard to say how big of an explosion it's actually causing.

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u/OneCatch Jul 31 '25

True, but they're stated to be 2mm rounds, and a other character remarks that it's a 'sub-gramme AM explosion' - not a 'sub-microgramme' or 'sub-nanogramme'. Given the specificity, it certainly seems like Banks was trying to imply a yield somewhere between perhaps 0.1g and 0.8g.

Also, the epilogue of Look to Windward portrays a micromissile around the same size leveling a building.

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u/deltree711 Jul 31 '25

0.5g of antimatter is closer to city-busting than it is to building-busting, unless it's a really big building.

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u/KarlMrax Jul 31 '25

In the Drawings at least Banks gives the 2mm rounds a yield of 212 grams.

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u/Skolloc753 Jul 31 '25 edited Jul 31 '25

1000g equals a 50mgt nuke, so 1g would still be a 50kt explosion. When it comes to "destroys a building", something like 0.001g payload (50t explosion) would be better fitting. Seems a bit like a contradiction.

SYL

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u/KarlMrax Aug 01 '25

It most likely is in grams of TNT not grams of antimatter.

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u/Skolloc753 Aug 01 '25

Since a nano missile is described being able a building it would require something in the region of a few dozen or hundred kilogram of TNT, or the equivalent of 0.x gram of antimatter.

SYL

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u/OneCatch Jul 31 '25

212 grams of TNT equivalent would be a hand grenade, which feels way too low given the destructiveness observed. On the other hand, 212 grams of antimatter is megaton territory which seems way too high.

Might be a disparity. Or perhaps 'normal' micromissiles are grenade yield but there are enhanced yield ones with 10x or 100x the antimatter used for specific purposes.

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u/KarlMrax Aug 01 '25

At least in the Drawings the MDAWS knife missile carries 1700 rounds of ammunition and in the feat it is firing all of them. That gets it to ~360 kilos in total.