r/whowouldwin • u/Theturtleflask • Jul 31 '25
Battle Could a really lucky guy defeat the entire US Military?
Lucky guy has probability completely on his side. If it's a non zero probability, he could make it happen because he's just that lucky. Lucky guy is so lucky that he could buy and scratch an entire roll of scratch cards and he'll always win the largest jackpot everytime. Lucky guy's luck works subconsciously.
Lucky guy starts outside the gates of Fort Bragg, North Carolina. Lucky guy wins if he could make the US Military to surrender and the US Military wins if they managed to kill lucky guy.
R1: The US Military is in character and starts unaware of Lucky guy's superpower
R2: The entire US Military is bloodlusted with knowledge about Lucky guy's powers and they can somehow track his current location
How will this battle play off? Who wins?
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u/Madus4 Jul 31 '25
Every member of the military has simultaneous heart attacks and/or strokes. It doesn’t how healthy you are, those things can happen at any time.
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u/Tomii9 Jul 31 '25
oh shit a thunderstorm formed, and everyone got lightningstuck.
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u/ConsulJuliusCaesar Jul 31 '25
Or most realistically and actually not as improbable as you would think "The president has embezzled basically every single soldiers pensions. A charismatic marine General has ralied his marines to cross the Atlantic. America is thrust into civil war and destroys itself."
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u/Tomii9 Jul 31 '25
Haha I like this one, but R2 says the US Military is bloodlusted, doesn't that mean even without pay they'd still try to get him?
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u/elongated_smiley Jul 31 '25
Went down the highway, broke the limit, we hit the town
Went through to Texas, yeah, Texas, and we had some fun
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u/YobaiYamete Jul 31 '25
Seriously, luck based powers are basically just reality warping / toon force level hax
He would effortlessly stomp the entire world's military and take over the planet within a week
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u/Madus4 Jul 31 '25
It can be slightly more balanced if it’s something like doubling your luck (or even up to increasing it tenfold), which helps for things that already have a realistic chance of happening, but doesn’t basically make you a god.
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u/Elant_Wager Jul 31 '25
How far does his luck go? Can he be so "lucky" that people just spontanously get a heart attack?
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u/Rathma86 Jul 31 '25
Even traps would be like claymores were from the same batch of defective stock etc
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u/ILookLikeKristoff Jul 31 '25
Or it goes off and every single piece of shrink shrapnel misses him
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u/Blackpixels Jul 31 '25
Or the explosive was installed backwards inside it and hit friendlies instead
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u/Pagliaccio13 Aug 01 '25
If the luck si so incredible as described by OP, and he can manipulate polrobabilities, maybe he can just call the US military and ask them to surrender?
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u/BTTLC Jul 31 '25
Luck guy wins in the matter of a few seconds. Literally every single person in the US military gets a brain aneurysm and dies instantly when the match begins.
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u/SocalSteveOnReddit Jul 31 '25
This guy will win because he can and that's all he needs.
The specific mechanics range from the unlikely to the absurd. Anyhow, President Trump accidentially blunders and names him to be part of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, so the US Military is ordered to leave him alone.
In Round 2, a parallel argument in a specific subreddit caused by abusive misreading of 'lusted' causes the US Military to instead become fanatical collectors of missing pokemon and no one refuses the order to stand down.
Like I said, this is going to get dumb before this guy is nabbed.
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u/ConsulJuliusCaesar Jul 31 '25
Anyhow, President Trump accidentially blunders and names him to be part of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, so the US Military is ordered to leave him alone.
This one is way more likely then you would like to believe.
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u/Alone-Lawfulness-229 Jul 31 '25
This is literally every action movie.
Spy movie.
War movie.
Action movie.
Watch one.
No matter how elite special forces super trained martial arts super duper they are, every single main character only wins because they're lucky.
Watch the bad guys shoot at them. The hero doesn't dodge the bullets. They don't use cia John wick training to dodge them.
The bad guys miss.
586 bullets hit the ground and wall next to the hero. All luck.
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u/Practical_Ad_758 Jul 31 '25
Or they do that stupid shit were they are trying to kill the main character and have him surrounded but charge him one at a time and lose.the expendable movies were so bad about that.
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u/ILookLikeKristoff Jul 31 '25
Nolan's final Batman movie was brutal about it. That scene where he fights a bunch of SWAT cops that all are holding ARs but none ever even attempt to fire a shot. They stand in a circle around him and slowly take turns swinging their guns like bats.
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u/ConsulJuliusCaesar Jul 31 '25
It's my head canon the cops didn't actually want to catch or even stop Batman. Because he's saved their asses on an almost routine basis by this point. However they had to make it look like they tried to get him.
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u/SavingsThen6348 27d ago
Well there is that, and the fact that they may hit each other as well, when the bullets pass through or miss him.
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u/ScorpioLaw Aug 01 '25
Boggles my mind writers don't use armor. Or a line that they are lucky or have some precognition. Gods blessed them. Regeneration.
Something for it to make sense.
The best fight choreography is when the enemy is capable.
Domino in Deadpool, without the negative effects essentially is what OP is talking about I guess.
It would be like watching a movie where the main pro is Domino, and Nicholas Cage from Next. With some Mr Bean.
I'd watch that movie. Movie would be awesome. Domino had some of the best sequences. Why they didn't bring her nor Cable back is disgusting.
That's a different topic.
How about a Face Off style movie where Precog meets Lucky meets blessed by the gods meets super genius. One of you has to statistically one day be a billionaire. Make it happen.
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u/fed45 Aug 01 '25
Boggles my mind writers don't use armor.
Then there are the John Wick movies which HEAVILY use body armor, to a comical degree actually 🤣
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u/Paratrooper101x Jul 31 '25
Luck is the strongest multiplier in terms of strength. Of course he could
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u/Azfitnessprofessor Jul 31 '25 edited 28d ago
There’s literally an X-Men mutant who’s power is manipulating probability fields in her favor everything literally lucks out in her favor every time she’s in the second Deadpool movie
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u/DelcoMan Jul 31 '25
There are TWO X-Men with this exact power. Longshot predates Domino by at least a decade.
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u/seancbo Jul 31 '25
I mean in what scenario can he lose? Can he ever get unlucky? Because theoretically he can literally just beat every soldier to death with his bare hands and get "lucky" that he isn't shot.
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u/DelcoMan Jul 31 '25
Lucky guy is basically 616 Scarlet Witch. He's completely unstoppable. If he can make any event happen no matter how unlikely it is, he could just straight up ask the US military to surrender nicely and since there's a possibility they will think he's a better leader than the current president, they immediately surrender and launch a coup against the current administration.
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u/Hotsaucex11 Jul 31 '25
Does Lucky have to consciously apply that luck for it to work?
For example: If a sniper unknown to him is firing at him, will his luck cause it to miss/misfire somehow?
I think if Lucky has to consciously apply the luck to each event then he has zero chance.
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u/Theturtleflask Jul 31 '25
It's subconscious. His luck is active even while he's sleeping
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u/Hotsaucex11 Jul 31 '25
In that case you could argue that he is virtually invincible. Anyone trying to harm him either messes up somehow or has a heart attack.
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u/CuteLingonberry9704 Jul 31 '25
This reminds me of a Supernatural episode when there's a cursed rabbit foot that gives you amazing luck, "luck to beat the devil." That kind of luck is no matter what things go your way. Or Domino from Deadpool.
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u/Dax_Maclaine Jul 31 '25
Lucky guy destroys because he has no losing condition. Battle starts: every soldier has some medical emergency, every weapon misfires or jams, and natural disasters hit every base but don’t harm lucky guy.
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u/DIsastrous_handle6 Jul 31 '25
Lucky guy wins if shit goes south some random cosmic rays can make USA nuke themselves
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u/Pabby13 Jul 31 '25
It’s not a statistical impossibility, therefore Lucky guy takes it. It’d likely be some weird domino effect where all the gunpowder at Fort Bragg is compromised. Leading to a series of visible misfires, then a panic among the troops.
The easiest “Lucky” path would be then some contention over whether he should be shot, since they know of his magical probability powers, and the Commander in Chief surrendering and offering him a some sort of treaty to save resources. If bloodlust prevents that, they attempt to nuke Lucky man, who luckily survives through probability bullshit, while wiping themselves out.
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u/dralcax Aug 01 '25
People always underestimate the wild shit that's technically possible but is vanishingly unlikely to actually happen. You're not just fighting a lucky guy - You're essentially fighting an omniescent deity with precise control over every particle in the universe and the infinite computational power to use it, who happens to really like this one guy.
You're trying to fire a gun at him? Too bad, because your gun just jammed. Then it spontaneously phased through your hand and hit the ground. Not that it matters - you've somehow suffered some form of brain damage that's caused you to forget what violence is and why you want to inflict it on this guy to begin with. And then a meteor falls out of the sky and obliterates you for good measure. And he didn't even realize you were there.
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u/Slapmaster928 Jul 31 '25
You could argue that while any given missile or projectile has a certain probability of failure. Deterministically, you really know that each individual one will either work or not. Like we know after observing a missile fly off the rails and hit a target that it had a 100% chance of doing that, whereas one that fails in any other way had a 100% chance of doing that instead. It's backwards as fuck and essentially a case of schroedingers cat, but technically there is no "real" probability. But yeah, otherwise, lucky man, just never even has a chance of loss, because somebody who was going to attack him could experience the one to a power of googol chance that all their atoms decay at once and die.
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Jul 31 '25
You've discovered the only way for lucky man to lose - realizing luck isn't real.
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u/blazer33333 Jul 31 '25
Quantum effects are, so far as we can tell, truly random. Normally that doesn't matter at the macroscopic scale because there's enough quantum effects being averaged together that the result is basically deterministic, but if this person magically can make all that randomness go the way they want then that determinism stops being reliable.
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u/9Yogi Jul 31 '25
Is there a non zero chance that every single person who wishes to and can harm him has a heart attack and dies?
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u/sonofabutch Jul 31 '25
A smaller version of this scenario plays out at the end of season one of Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency when troops (including a tank) surround the supernaturally lucky Bart (Fiona Dourif). The actual fight isn’t shown, but (spoiler alert) Bart isn’t in custody for the start of season two.
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u/Zestyclose_Wedding17 Jul 31 '25
People hear about Lucky Guy and vote him for president. As he becomes commander in chief, army surrenders unconditionally because he is now the head of the army.
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u/banxy85 Jul 31 '25
So lucky guy is basically Domino for Deadpool 2
R1: yeah he could do it
R2: if they were bloodlusted and totally aware of the implications they could just nuke half of the USA to save the rest. But then, would lucky guy have luckily just fallen into a fallout shelter at the opportune moment?
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u/utheraptor Jul 31 '25
Yes. He basically is comparable to Contessa from Worm, who easily folds the entire world
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u/endividuall 29d ago
Zero question yes. If he’s so unbelievably lucky somehow a nuclear launch device will fall into his lap and he’ll use it to nuke every base before anyone could figure anything out.
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u/Shad0wTiger303 Jul 31 '25
The Lucky Guy no matter how lucky could not inflict enough casaulties to make the US Military surrender. Unless he tries to go for the Nukes
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u/kdfsjljklgjfg Jul 31 '25
I guess it depends on if lucky guy can make the US government believe in sorcery or that he's a deity because it makes more sense than the level of probability that's going on.
If all of your soldiers' guns misfire trying to shoot lucky guy, all of them slip and fall when trying to rush him, tanks break down next to him, etc; at what point do they assume they're dealing with an alien/god and surrender out of futility?
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u/The_Truth_Flirts Aug 01 '25
Not to mention in flight logistics failures when trying to deploy any resources to endanger him.
It would be a spectacle to watch it unravel, but lucky dude no diffs the planet.
There is a non zero chance that an omnpotent entity/alien/god from wherever wearing a clown outfit will appear and paddle the behinds of anyone thinking about hurting him with a comically large mallet while whispering 'what would jesus do' in their ears.... Just saying.
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u/Apprehensive_Cry2104 Jul 31 '25
He may not even need to try to go for the nukes. The question states his ability works subconsciously but doesn’t give it a limit. What’s to say the moment the military targets him a string in unlikely events cause a nuclear war that destroys America? He happens to survive said war because he is “lucky”. No one else does because they’re unlucky. That’s fully within the parameters. He “wins”.
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u/Admirable-Lecture255 Jul 31 '25
The top comment explains it. The op said if there's a non 0 chance the lucky guy always wins. Theres is a non 0 chance of him winning against the entire military no matter how unfathomably small it still non 0. He wins.
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u/Quill_of_Time Jul 31 '25
There is a non-zero chance every single member of the us military gets a heart attack simultaneously Lucky guy insta wins
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u/StunningRing5465 Jul 31 '25
He just needs to get the current commander-in-chief to agree to surrender. This could be as simple as a charismatic appearance on Fox and Friends
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u/mining_moron Jul 31 '25
The US military and all its hardware teleport into the sun via quantum tunneling. GG EZ.
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u/AwayInfluence5648 Jul 31 '25
So um quantum mechanics add teleportation [quantum tunneling].. Every bullet fired tunnels into a lower-energy state in an orbit around the sun. [less GPE]
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u/mythroatsore Jul 31 '25
If military is bloodlusted they could nuclear winter the plannet while hiding in a bunker
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u/noseysheep Jul 31 '25
Easy, run for president and then disband the US military. He could win without firing a single shot
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u/Appropriate-Kale1097 Jul 31 '25
So the definition of lucky in this scenario is essentially “he wins”. He has no chance of failure in anything he does and reality conforms around him to his unconscious will.
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u/BeniCG Jul 31 '25
Of course. There is a non zero chance that the whole US military gets teleported right into the target area of a missile strike on lucky guy while he gets teleported away. Its not likely but possible so he makes it happen.
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u/justwalk1234 Jul 31 '25
Can one luck his way to the presidency, and order the military to surrender?
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u/Ill-Description3096 Jul 31 '25
Well yeah. Though I would question them actually surrendering so maybe that is what prevents him from winning through that standard.
Either way he is basically invincible. All weapons that might kill him malfunction. All soldiers that might subdue him slip/have a heart attack/etc.
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u/Ducklinsenmayer Jul 31 '25
How smart is he?
If he's truly lucky, and has at least 0.00025% of a functioning brain, and maybe some orange skin and bad hair, he runs for president and orders them to stand down.
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u/dramirezf Jul 31 '25
He would win easily. His luck is so great that as soon as he decide to encounter them, every enemy capable of stop him get a heart attack and drop dead.
That is pure luck.
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u/Medical-Monarch-7274 Jul 31 '25
Easy, somehow somebody important would accidentally sign the surrender documents, no conflict needed.
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u/OurWeaponsAreUseless Jul 31 '25
Wasn't this one of the X-Men's powers? The guy had crazy luck to where everyone's guns would jam or weird stuff would happen allowing him to avoid injury. edit: I guess the character was called Longshot.
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u/NiemandSpezielles Jul 31 '25
To make the question even remotely intersting you would need to add some kind of lower limit for the probability.
If you allow ANY non zero probability, then thanks to quantum mechanics, there really isnt much to think about.
He has any number of options to win instantly. For example: Every single military personal and piece of equipment spontanously desintegrates.
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u/Crows_reading_books Jul 31 '25
Easy answer: there is a non-zero chance that the US military just surrenders immediately, so they do, because he is just that lucky.
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u/HeadAd3609 Jul 31 '25
i mean yeah. any power put to the max could reasonably do it. lucky guy is so lucky that the oxygen atoms you need to survive just so happen to avoid every single us soldier on earth for an hour and boom.
same with brains, brawns, speed, etc etc
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u/Falsus Jul 31 '25
The lucky guys clears this 100 times out of a 100.
Even if he has a thousand guns aimed at him, there is an insanely low chance that they all misfire or miss him. If they then try to all rush him there is always a chance for them to slip before reachig him. If they try to drop bombs on him there is always a chance for them to explore too early or be a dud.
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u/manicreceptive Jul 31 '25
All oxygen molecules distribute “randomly” away from anyone threatening him.
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u/CheezyBreadMan Jul 31 '25
He could just have every us military member undergo cold fusion until they died
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u/ExerciseSad3082 Jul 31 '25
Is it just luck or is it reality bending? I mean getting the jackpot with every scratch card he gets is defying some laws of nature I ltesume
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u/clearedmycookies Jul 31 '25
A lot of people are thinking of this the wrong way. Forget trying to do this by force. Really lucky guy just needs to go to a local recruiter office and sign up. From the inside, he will luck his way up the ladder and by luck convince every single soldier he comes in contact with to be part of his coup.
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u/Shadowkinesis9 Jul 31 '25
The only thing stopping me here is wondering if luck is an actual thing in reality. But going by how humans believe it works, then Immutable Luck makes him essentially invincible. Nothing is impossible in principle except for proven paradox in physics. So like, unless the military can kill him by forcing him to die unless he moves faster than light somehow, then I think he wins.
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u/unluckyexperiment Jul 31 '25
All oxygen molecules in the atmosphere bounce around so that none enters militay members' lungs.
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u/No-Appearance-7163 Jul 31 '25
Yeah. The US Military would just get nuked by an another country and since the guy is lucky he’ll find a bunker in no time.
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u/SightWithoutEyes Jul 31 '25
There's a Phillip K. Dick story you'd love, man.
"The Golden Man". It's about a guy with the absolute ability to predict every single possibility and select the best one.
Guy stomps, and somehow winds up elected president.
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u/KrimsonKurse Jul 31 '25
As there is nothing that is an absolute 0/100% possibility of happening, then yes. He has reality warping luck. There is a non-zero chance that an alien invasion could happen and the military has to deal with that instead, so they surrender to the guy and hope to recruit him so they can defeat the alien invasion.
There is a non-zero chance that a piece of intel satellite breaks off and crashes into another satellite, crippling their communications and intelligence gathering.
There is a non-zero chance every combatant dies of a heart attack or a bug/snake bite, or heat stroke before drawing a weapon or closing the distance.
Nothing is absolute (paradoxical statement).
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u/Stonep11 Jul 31 '25
I mean if ANY non-zero possibility means he comes out ahead, yeah of course. You could have 100,000 guys point machine guns out him and they all misfire. Every single tank could throw a track. At some point the Military would realize the guy is the cause and the cost to fight the dude would be too much and what’s the point?
Even if blood lusted and refusing to give up, I’m not sure what would be a flat 100% successful plan? I mean every single nuke could be targeted at the man and they could all fail. You could even argue that every single soldier rushing him with a knife could just end in them all tripping over each other or having a heart attack or something.
If you move his odds of a favorable outcome to like 99.99999% chance, then he loses.
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u/3rdtryatremembering Jul 31 '25
The funnier scenario is imagining him trying NOT to win and still stumbling to victory.
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u/sliferra Jul 31 '25
Unless we’re going quantum level, lot of things aren’t really random we just don’t have enough data for it. Like a coin toss is not random, if you measured the amount of force applied with air resistance you’d be able to know which side it’s going to land on.
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u/maskrey Jul 31 '25
There is a way that the military wins. By doing literally nothing. No matter what the guy does. If all of the military tries to kill him, surw all of them can have a heart attack. But if there is nothing related to the guy happens, there is nothing for him to get lucky about.
The guy can go find members of the military. And he will, because he is lucky. But then he is still bound by physics. The military will be everywhere in the world, in places that are far away and hard to reach. He will reach them and kill a lot, but he won't kill everything. He will die of old age before he reach his goal.
For example, how can he destroy a nuclear submarine? He doesn't even know if they are there, what they are called, how many are there. The only things that can even reach those submarines are owned by the military. And one person can't even operate those things, even if he knows exactly how to operate. That's the work of a whole crew; one person can do fuck all.
There is a way that the military wins. By doing literally nothing. No matter what the guy does.
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u/ramenmonster69 Jul 31 '25
If he’s that lucky why doesn’t he just run for president and take over the military?
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u/Silwren Jul 31 '25
I think it's a draw. After a while, the military simply doesn't engage Lucky Guy with significant resources. He can't do too much damage by himself, and the military has mobility. If the military is "bloodlusted" constantly, then after a while, it will reduce the resources spent failing to kill him and constantly send a few soldiers, who will inevitably fail, rather than using significant military equipment. What is Lucky Guy going to do against submarines that have no effective means or desire to engage him. Why would the Air Force even engage a lone individual with aircraft.
So no, since Lucky Guy can't engage the military, and the military can constantly throw a minimal amount of resources attempting to kill Lucky Guy, neither wins, until Lucky Guy dies of old age...
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u/novagenesis Jul 31 '25
Your cited luck (jackpot on every ticket in a roll) exceeds the odds discussed in Philosophy for the Fine Tuning of the universe, probably by many orders of magnitude.
R1, R2, R20 (the galactic empire?), R100 (all armies in the multiverse working together) all ends the same way - the entire multiverse collapses in a big crush that somehow fails to squash Lucky Guy and one random soldier. The latter is paralyzed in the collapse and surrenders.
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u/Mr24601 Jul 31 '25
This guy is Contessa on steroids. She gets one perfect path, he gets every perfect path at once.
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u/Broly_ Jul 31 '25
r/whowouldwin posters try not to use the US in who would win scenarios impossible challenge
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u/SphericalCrawfish Jul 31 '25
Round 1 I don't think he'd be able to catch them. There would at least be a few nuke subs that are pretty much completely inaccessible barring nonsense like spontaneous combustion.
R2. The only way he doesn't systemically destroy them is if the US. Destroys the planet. Which they are more or less capable of doing and no one can stop them. Just detonating every nuke in its silo or nuking Yosemite. Would destroy the biosphere and lucky guy with it.
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u/BongSwank Jul 31 '25
Hot take: probably not.
If lucky guy's luck only extends to himself, after the military realizes what's going on they could use alternate methods besides combat to force lucky guy to stop.
They could threaten lucky guy's family, or the entire country. If lucky guy's luck doesn't extend to others, then the nukes aimed at innocent civilians will work as intended. If lucky guy has any conscious or logical thought process he gives up. (Whats the point of beating the military if everyone dies)
If lucky guy is abnormally non-human, has 0 empathy, no connection to anyone... then the whole continent ends up irradiated. Lucky or not, he may succumb to radiation poisoning, starvation, become trapped without escape, or wander and endless wasteland. The military hides its remaining personnel in bunkers spread across the world.
If lucky guy does not know, or cannot travel to each of these locations then luck means nothing. He will die of old age before every person involved in the 'military' does
By that point any civilian would essentially become a part of the military to survive when the US goes full MAD. They should have enough people spread out to enough locations to procreate. In the end it comes down to outlasting lucky guy, and lucky guy can't be everywhere at once or have perfect information, or perpetually avoid death. Those things are 0% chance under normal circumstances.
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u/TheHopesedge Jul 31 '25
Depends how probabilistic we consider the universe, if everything beyond a certain size is completely deterministic then luck aint doing shit, but if we're thinking in the realms of fantasy (like Mat Cauthon from the WOT) then yeah nothing is touching them, everyone but him will die of an aneurysm immediately at the start of the challenge.
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u/Bombadil3456 Jul 31 '25
I believe any missile aimed at lucky guy will transform into a whale and crash on the ground
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u/billy_twice Jul 31 '25
Lucky guy wins both.
Anyone trying to shoot him had their guns jam or backfire.
Any missiles fired at him, are somehow duds or miss completely.
And anyone trying to take him down manually somehow trips up and hits their head on a rock.
There is a non zero chance of all of these, the military has no way to hurt him.
Lucky guy needs to open a locked door, he somehow guesses the code first try or someone dropped the key outside the door.
He's unstoppable.
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u/Steven_Hunyady Jul 31 '25
I don't think you realize just what you've created or how busted it is. You could replace every member of the United States Armed Forces from the bottom to the top of the chain with a perfect copy of bloodlusted Supermen for whom the only waking thought they have is to kill this man and he would still win. Hell, you could replace every living organism on Earth with bloodlusted Superman and this man would still win.
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u/Inevitable_Guide_493 Jul 31 '25
All you have to do to defeat the US military is cut off their ability to freely trade with China. Lucky guy travels to China and convinces Xi to stop all trade with the US with his incredible charisma, and America's military becomes borderline impotent within a few weeks.
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u/YnotBbrave Aug 01 '25
Course. There is a non zero probability that the temperature on any spot hit 10000 degrees, just tiny
So what's the probability of all soldiers spontaneity combusting right now? Right. Non zero
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u/Emrys_Merlin Aug 01 '25
"What are the odds that every single person in the US that holds a military rank suddenly has a massive heart attack and dies?"
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u/myownfan19 Aug 01 '25
One issue of course is time. Is it that each soldier or weapon is coming at him one at a time and then fails? That would take a long time.
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u/regurgitator_red Aug 01 '25
He’s at Ft Bragg? Nahhh, if he’s at the main gate he gets shot by some kid from Fayetteville before he even gets to the checkpoint. He’s lucky he didn’t get raped first.
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u/FlyingSpacefrog Aug 01 '25
Any bullet that is aimed so that it would hit him instead misfires, or the gun jams, or the shooter sneezes as they’re about to shoot, throwing off their aim.
Extrapolate this kind of luck to other kinds of combat. The guy is practically unkillable.
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u/Pathkinder Aug 01 '25
Depends on the strength and range of his luck, how early it kicks in, and how much it can change other peoples’ actions/decisions.
First of all, can I even decide I want to harm this guy? How much can he affect MY actions/decisions?
Is he so lucky that everyone happens to find him too special to harm no matter what he does?
Do I forget about him the moment I decide I make the decision to harm him?
Let’s assume I can at least make the decision that I WANT to harm him since your setup implies as much. How early in the process does his luck kick in?
Do I have a stroke as soon as I make the decision to harm him?
Is my health fine but I’m unable to find my gun?
Am I able to find my gun but it jams whenever I try to shoot him?
Am I able to shoot my gun at him but every bullet misses?
Does intent and subjectivity matter?
You said his luck is subconscious but something like winning the lottery is actually a subjective good. A monk dedicated to a life of poverty would find winning the lottery to be a very unlucky temptation/burden.
Verdict
Assuming this guy’s luck doesn’t kick in TOO early (which your rules imply it does not), I say the US Military could take him out.
why?
I think it’s reasonable to say that this guy’s luck, while subconscious, is still mainly affected by his subjective understanding of what is “good” and what is “bad”. Eg. He doesn’t WANT to die, his luck prevents him from dying.
So that means the only surefire solution is to make him believe that his death would be a stroke of good fortune. Make him wanna die.
US Military just has to commit horrific non-fatal war crimes on his family and friends with the promise to stop if he takes his own life. So just their standard operating procedures really.
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u/Fun-Variation-9951 Aug 01 '25
You can run around fighting the law all you want 😅
Shes still getting her cheeks clapped regardless of the way you go out🙏🕊️
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u/I_Seent_Bigfoot Aug 01 '25
It just depends on how REALLY lucky he is, and how many disgruntled soldiers would break ranks and help him instead cuz they too, would love to have similar luck.
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u/Karsh14 Aug 01 '25
Lucky guy sends a note to the White House, requiring it to be read by the President and requires his immediate surrender
Lucky guy: “Well what do you know, not only did they receive it, but the guard at the gate actually took it directly to the President. You wouldn’t believe this stroke of luck, but the President actually read it right away, and immediately surrendered and now I’m POTUS!”
“Who would have thought I’d have such luck with a simple letter?”
So yes. And no one dies.
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u/ExcitementFederal563 Aug 01 '25
If the US eventually understands the situation, they just ignore him and it's a draw. Unless his luck is so powerful, all us military personal die as soon as they put on a uniform, then a surrender is needed I guess? I dunno, he doesn't have power projection capability but if the above were true, it would enable bad actors so us has to surrender to prevent its military from being decimated and other countries starting wars all over.
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u/BunBunny55 Aug 01 '25
Infinite luck wins in every scenario full stop.
Infinite luck means you basically have ultimate plot armor. We all know how that works.
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u/Slodin Aug 01 '25
He doesn’t even to win physically.
He exists, and the government just simply collapsed. Ta da! Defeated.
He exists, all a sudden the entire military disbands for whatever reason.
He exists, everyone in the military gets sick or dies.
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u/Caleus Aug 01 '25
If he can truly cause anything to happen that has a nonzero probability then he is literally unstoppable. Why? Quantum tunneling. Trap him in a room? He Quantum tunnels out. Shoot him with a bullet? It Quantum tunnels through him. But that's thinking too small. The entire US military? Oh they all simultaneously Quantum tunneled into the sun. Oh the meteor that killed the dinosaurs? Quantum tunneled that shit away. A bomb that will wipe out the entire galaxy is about to go off? No biggie he can just Quantum tunnel our entire solar system to the other side of the Universe.
This guy doesnt just solo our entire universe. He solos 99.999% of all fiction. Bravo on creating one of the strongest characters I've ever seen on here.
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u/FuqueMePapi Aug 01 '25
Extreme Luck is literally just reality manipulation. He solos the whole world let alone the US Military.
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u/SquiglyLineInMyEye Aug 01 '25
I think R2 is winnable for the military if they can somehow create a situation in which the luckiest outcome for lucky guy is for him to die. Assuming that lucky guys luck doesn't just stop that from happening in the first place. What that would be exactly I'm not sure but that's about the only way you could kill him.
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u/Easy_Cloud4163 Aug 01 '25
u gotta play danganronpa 2 cuz there’s a character that has this power and its super interesting
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Aug 01 '25
If it's a non zero probability, he could make it happen because he's just that lucky.
This means that
- Any bullet will miss him
- Any stab will miss him
- Any bomb will be accidentally dropped somewhere else
If ANYTHING that has a non-zero probability fails, he's golden.
There's not a single 100% probability event.
The entire US Military is bloodlusted with knowledge about Lucky guy's powers and they can somehow track his current location
I know this may seem unfathomable for most people, but no, even if a million soldier surrounded him in close quarter, they would still fail to kill him.
Every single attempt (be it gun, or knife, or grenade) would miss. There's not a single kill attempt that has 100% success rate.
"But what if he's surrounded and can't leave so they just fly and plane a nuke him along with the army?"
Too bad, the plane crashed before it left the runway.
So did the next 100 planes they loaded the nuke on.
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u/Dull-Nectarine1148 Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 01 '25
How would this battle play out? He would find out that he is actually the literal reincarnation of god and become immortal.
No, I'm not kidding. If he's infinitely lucky, then all scientists and understanding of the universe has all been coincidentally wrong up to now. Every person on planet earth is collectively having a hallucination and no sentient being has ever experienced the actual world. Hell, maybe everything is a genuine simulation and turns out this guy is the one who controls everything. Why not? Heart attacks is such a silly mundane way for him to win, when he categorically wouldn't even be comprehensible to us. Everything can and will be retroactively explained in a manner which can give him literally anything, to the point of destroying meaning itself.
For any theory you claim is "impossible," well you have to consider your own human fallibility. Does free will exist? Can people access truths about an objective universe? Unless you think you have 100% certainty in these answers, which you can't (like, the classic brain in a jar experiment is example enough to demonstrate this), everything can be exactly as this individual desires - he alone dictates what meaning is and how the universe functions. He would be lucky enough to exist in such a universe.
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u/Holy-Crap-Uncle Aug 01 '25
Quantum mechanics basically says there is a nonzero probability of practically anything happening.
What you are describing is basically someone who has the Infinite Improbability Drive.
So if he has quantum level luck, that means he tanks ... anything.
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u/Palpitation-Itchy Aug 01 '25
If my (mis)understanding of quantum mechanics is correct (it isn't), he would be able to walk through objects
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u/LetterheadAdvanced91 Aug 01 '25
bro round 1 lucky guy is basically untouchable luck on his side means dumb luck shots dodge bullets fall through cracks he’d cause chaos just by sheer chance getting lucky with every move military won’t even know what hit em he’d probably slip past defenses like a ghost and make them surrender by messing with their heads or pulling insane stunts round 2 tho military knows and bloodlusted they’ll swarm him hard but luck’s still luck if there’s any chance to dodge or survive he will somehow pull it off even if it’s slim odds military might corner him but that one lucky break could flip the whole thing so lucky guy still got a shot just gotta ride that insane luck wave nonstop bro luck > all in the end
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u/Telinary Aug 01 '25
If you make luck supernatural enough it is basically uncontrolled reality bending and there is nothing to say about what it can or can't do beside the writer. The whole army might trip and hit their heads simultaneously.
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u/Beautiful_Garage7797 Aug 01 '25
if we take this power to its logical conclusion, every member of the US military would instantly have all of their particles quantum tunnel away and they would instantly disappear
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u/Catman1348 Aug 01 '25
Dude so lucky that everyone in the US military has a sudden heart attack. Instant win.
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u/PureConsciousness40 Aug 01 '25
Uh. Thats not luck. Thats called the chuck norris effect. Have you never seen what happened in an episode of walker texas ranger where he was surrounded by a bunch of dudes with automatic weapons? They were in very close proximity, They all fired at him, but he just gracefully outran EVERY bullet!
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u/BowsetteGoneBananas Aug 01 '25
Isn't this just Mr Bean vs the US military? Seems like an easy win for the Bean.
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u/Odd-Yoghurt9897 Aug 01 '25
If we go by our regular understanding of what luck and probability would do then it’s clear that it would be impossible to defeat this guy.
But, technically we don’t really know if randomness is possible in the universe. So, if it is the case that nothing can actually be truly random, every action taken has a 100% chance of occurring so his powers are worthless. And even if it is possible for true randomness, it’s unclear if his ability to change fluctuations is various particles or stuff like that would actually help him in this case.
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u/Holiday-Poet-406 Aug 01 '25
Nah he's not going to be that lucky that a few airdropped bombs aren't going to perforate him.
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u/Corn22 Aug 01 '25
US military fumbles the ball right away as Lucky Man is misidentified because the wrong file was opened. Failure to even identify this guy leads to frustration and infighting. US military implodes.
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u/LaDiiablo Aug 01 '25
I assume it's like domino from marvel (Deadpool 2).
Yeah this dude is gonna win if he absolut luck. Like how are they gonna kill him? Any weapon they shot at him would misfire or hit them instead. A nuke? It would explode before launch
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u/Medical-Captain-1025 Aug 02 '25
Also his luck might make it so everything he did or will do would be completely legal
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u/DDWarlock Aug 02 '25
There is a non zero chance that you can phase through objects via quantum tunneling. So, lucky guy is literally untouchable if luck demands it.
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u/ImtheDude27 29d ago
Just check out Marvel's Domino if you don't know how this situation woukd play out. Of course the lucky guy would win.
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u/ConsistentStop8811 Jul 31 '25
Of course he could. What would ever stop him, in any scenario? Any gun aimed at him will misfire, every bomb aimed at him will explode or be a dud, every person trying to get close to fight him will trip and break their spine. If he wins in any scenario where there is a non-zero probability of victory, he will win 100% of the time.