r/whowouldwin • u/Historical_Ostrich • Aug 02 '25

Battle An unarmed Captain America (MCU) replaces Robb Stark at the Red Wedding - can he fight his way out?

Cap doesn't have his shield or suit, and he doesn't know that the betrayal is coming. The Freys are not aware of his upgraded abilities.

Can Cap fight his way out? Bonus points if he can keep Catelyn and Robb's wife safe. Double bonus points if he can kill Walder Frey and Roose Bolton.

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u/AC0909 Aug 02 '25

Yes he could survive, easily I think, but I don’t think he’s saving anyone

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u/Historical_Ostrich Aug 02 '25

There are like 7-8k Freys and Boltons at the Red Wedding, I think - many of them armed with crossbows. Surely someone stands a decent chance of tagging him and at least slowing him down?

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u/TomeOfCrows Aug 02 '25

He managed to escape SHIELD headquarters while completely surrounded by hydra agents in Winter Soldier. The entire building was on high alert to capture him and had access to the best equipment in the setting, including aircraft, and they failed to capture or even harm him.

Sure, he had his shield at the time but I think dealing with arrows and swords will be a lot easier.

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u/FallOutFan01 ​ Aug 02 '25

Also paging the following users u/SlateSquirrel, u/freshly-stabbed, u/blatherskiters, u/South-by-north, u/a__new_name for the purposes of discussion and to add some extra information.

For scaling, comparison and informative purposes I present the following information, YouTube clips.

Things to remember is that Steve possesses an really good memory and observational skills.

Like having an few seconds to glance at an HYDRA battle plan with HYDRA positions on it and recreating it to Colonel Phillips.

While recovering and awakenina/semi consciousness from his frozen sleep in an SHIELD medical room disguised as an SSR hospital room he was listening to an baseball radio broadcast but realized it was inaccurate because he was there.

After the battle of new york he joined SHIELD and learnt modern combat tactics and fighting techniques.

So when he fought those SHIELD/HYDRA agents in the elevator in the Triskelion.

He didn't know they were HYDRA agents, didn't know HYDRA was involved.

As such he was holding back from going all out against those agents.

SHIELD had their own training facility with their own campuses such as academy of operations.

Which existed to train agents to become tactical agents with level 5 clearance.

Think the guys that guarded the shield facility in New Mexico those guys that Thor took down.

The academy of operations also trained field agents, but they also trained “Specialists”.

So for example Clint Barton is or would be an specialist, Steve Roger’s would be an specialist or just as skilled as one.

But here is an another specialist Grant Ward’s file and his skills.

I’d wager Steve went to the academy of operations and trained and because of his enhanced memory, stamina, healing factor.

All combined to allow him to train to superhuman levels beyond the scope of regular individuals.