r/whowouldwin • u/Historical_Ostrich • Aug 03 '25

Battle Which superheroes/villains would lose to a real world SWAT team if they were stripped of plot armor?

The SWAT team will employ real world tactics and resort to deadly force if necessary. Whoever they're facing off against has their standard gear and will resist to the best of their ability, but they don't get any of their standard plot armor.

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u/trenbollocks Aug 04 '25

The likes of Punisher and John Wick would get shredded by a proper tier-1 SOF team in nearly any real-world situation (sans plot armour, obviously).

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u/ScoutsOut389 Aug 04 '25

A tier one SOF team is a whole other beast from a municipal SWAT team.

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u/Starlord777175 Aug 04 '25

The Hostage Rescue Team is considered equivalent to a tier 1 unit, and they are still considered SWAT

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u/Jewniversal_Remote Aug 04 '25

Considered by who? Lol. Lmao even.

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u/WarlockEngineer Aug 04 '25

FBI HRT is a very well trained and equipped unit, but they should not be equivocated to a city SWAT team.

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u/TheWayoftheWind Aug 04 '25

They should also not be equated to a Tier 1 Special Operations Team. Maybe they are equally skilled and trained in Hostage Rescue on paper, but Tier 1 teams just have so much more experience and a vastly different mission.

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u/Jewniversal_Remote Aug 04 '25

Right. In the most respectful way possible, it's similar to the joke that goes "those who can't do, teach. Those that can't teach, teach PE". The cream of the crop rises and makes it to Tier 1. Those that didn't quite make the cut or have separated from the military go kick down doors for a 3-letter. Those that didn't make the cut to join the military in the first place, go become cops.

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u/clandestine801 Aug 04 '25

While the FBI HRT isn't considered an SoF unit, especially when they're attached to a domestic agency (though do operate overseas w/ T1 & JSOC units ), they recruit from T1 SoF and SoF guys in general. And this is a well documented fact. With that said, HRT is by no means, even remotely your average SWAT team.

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u/Ezbior ​ Aug 04 '25

damn the FBI even got their own in house estrogen thats crazy

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u/zoro4661 ​ Aug 04 '25

"Join FBI, become woman" is one hell of a hiring offer

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u/Starlord777175 Aug 04 '25

Google is your friend.

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u/Jewniversal_Remote Aug 04 '25

Within your own link

Many of the candidates come from the special-operations community. Former Navy SEALs, Delta Force operators and Rangers from the Army, and Air Force Commandos are just some of those recruited by the Bureau.

Lots of references in your article where it says one or two HRT members got to sit on the same helicopter as a SEAL team. Wow!!

And my other comment in this thread about them mostly being former military. It is absolutely still below Tier 1, and yet still better than county SWAT, which is exactly what I was commenting about.

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u/Starlord777175 Aug 04 '25

Source: trust me bro. Between some meal team six larper such as yourself and business insider I’m going to defer to business insider on this one.

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u/Jewniversal_Remote Aug 05 '25

Lets post our pics of working alongside the German, Greek, Mongolian and Lebanese militaries, I'll go first!

Or better yet post your bench and 2 mile splits.

Stick to Star Wars bud.

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u/Starlord777175 Aug 06 '25

That isn’t proof dumbass.

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u/Jewniversal_Remote Aug 06 '25

It actually does, if you bother to reverse image search

here

here

here

or here! And find out that none of these images exist online.

I understand you might not know how to post pictures of your service if all you do is spend your time arguing online. That's okay! You can send proof whenever your little heart can handle it.

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u/weeOriginal Aug 04 '25

What’s SOF?

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u/MrLucky13 ​ Aug 04 '25

Special Operations Forces