r/whowouldwin Aug 03 '25

Battle Which superheroes/villains would lose to a real world SWAT team if they were stripped of plot armor?

The SWAT team will employ real world tactics and resort to deadly force if necessary. Whoever they're facing off against has their standard gear and will resist to the best of their ability, but they don't get any of their standard plot armor.

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u/Ikacprzak Aug 03 '25

Anyone note bulletproof

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u/Toptomcat Aug 04 '25 edited Aug 04 '25

Taylor Hebert (Worm) is physically a squishy unpowered human, but her ability to see through the eyes of every insect within ~400 meters essentially amounts to local omniscience, and her ability to completely control them makes for essentially unlimited concealment as well as a kind of offense that makes bulletproof vests completely irrelevant.

Similarly, Professor X (X-Men) would mind-control all of them from a mile away, Kouzaku Mitori (Raildex) can remote-control a bulletproof minion from far enough away to be safe, a Potterverse or D&D wizard could invisibly fuck them up half a dozen ways, Paul Atredes (Dune) could precognition their way through the entire thing without a scratch, a Jedi (Star Wars) could do the same thing with added telekinesis and laser-swording people to death, Fujiwara no Mokou (Touhou Project) would scream and fall down and bleed to death and then explode into flame and stand right back up, in an urban area Toph Beifong (Avatar: The Last Airbender) could sense them coming through a wall via the sound of their footsteps on the street and then just encase them in concrete, a Predator (duh) could use their active camouflage to pick them off one by one unseen...there are lots of non-bulletproof characters with esoteric, long-ranged, stealth-oriented or informational powers who could beat a SWAT team through means other than 'charge at them mindlessly from thirty meters away across an open field.'

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u/RagingNudist Aug 04 '25

Except a swat team beating taylor isnt actually that crazy, especially if they know her ability. Sniper. Alternatively, i dont believe she has control while asleep, they do what her last command was(alexandria), run her down at midnight.

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u/Lemerney2 Aug 04 '25

I guess it depends on how much this scenario relies on typical behaviour in the story. Since a SWAT team would absolutely beat Taylor if she was sleeping, but in story, she has a secret identity and a hidden hideout meaning that's unlikely, and Tattletale to bribe people off from sending those threats after her, or at least warn Skitter they're coming. They could probably win eventually if she didn't have backup from the Undersiders though

That being said, my answer to the question would be Jack Slash Given he was taken out by a kitted up SWAT team in story

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u/JacobhPb Aug 04 '25

he even dies to them because his plot armour is removed.

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u/ViolinistPleasant982 Aug 04 '25

I mean in an Urban environment they can't get a sniper that could shoot her and be outside her range baring shit like main street new york and what not. Her orders do also remain active well unconscious, ie the killing of Tag and Alexanderia, and her powers will subconsciously run repeated tasks, setting alert trip wires and weaving usable silk cord again from the aforementioned murders, so I wouldn't be suprised if she can, like a light sleeper, be woken up by her bug senses by things like trip wires. There best shot is leading her somewhere where they can get a sniper in a helicopter to take her out but that also assumes she isn't hiding in her bugs like she pulls during her warlord era stuff.

I think a major cities force could do it but I also think a lot of people are gonna die in the process.