r/whowouldwin • u/Historical_Ostrich • Aug 03 '25

Battle Which superheroes/villains would lose to a real world SWAT team if they were stripped of plot armor?

The SWAT team will employ real world tactics and resort to deadly force if necessary. Whoever they're facing off against has their standard gear and will resist to the best of their ability, but they don't get any of their standard plot armor.

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u/foulfowl129 Aug 04 '25

Hot take? Batman would eventually take some hits by sheer luck in numbers in many portrayals. Smart Batman would actually fear guns and stay far far away and be a predator picking them off like the Arkham games. Batman that eventually jumps in the fray and moves against multiple opponents would eventually just dumb luck take a round.

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u/Reitter3 Aug 04 '25

Thats why modern batman iterations uses bulletproof armor. Even a shot close to the head ricocheted.

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u/foulfowl129 Aug 04 '25

Even without penetration, the amount of newtons going into a body is gonna make some internal bleeding happen. Plot armor going includes the laws of physics. Major bruising and internal bleeding. Even if it’s totally stopped by armor.

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u/Reitter3 Aug 04 '25

Fair enough

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u/Lower_Complex1465 Aug 05 '25

What if there was shock absorbing soft material on the inside of the suit to mitigate and spread out the force a lot better?

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u/Bediavad Aug 06 '25

You need vibranium, anything else will require a huge helmet and armor

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u/TreadingOnYourDreams 28d ago

Vibranium is a fictional metal appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics

plot armor.

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u/Fluffy-Map-5998 Aug 05 '25

That can only do so much

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u/Hrydziac Aug 05 '25

Only for more realistic versions like Nolan Batman. Comic and animated Batman straight up just has the stats to be fine.

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u/Mordred19 Aug 05 '25

And all that full auto fire that Battinson tanked should have sent lead fragments spraying into vulnerable spots. Like his chin.

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u/TreadingOnYourDreams 28d ago

All that fire Battinson took would have knocked him to the ground and left him dead.

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u/ligma_sucker 28d ago

im pretty sure a guy full auto shoots at him and batman blocks it with his hand at one point. it doesn’t even get moved he just fully tanks it with his palm. it’s obviously made of some super material created by lucius or whatever

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u/saltedduck3737 29d ago

This isn’t even about sheer luck, a group of goons shooting at him would kill him if his armor wasn’t bulletproof

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u/Neutral_Myu 29d ago

A good example of this was in the batman begins game

In that you essentially had to takedown silently enemies with firearms because they could almost kill you with a single volley ( and enemy placement was pretty smart) and then in some cases you usually had the chance to scare them off/disarm by making them so afraid that they drop their weapons and run or get separated for a stealth takedown

Bu facing even a fun wielding dude alone in that game meant that you were either going to die, even at full health or finish him with a fourth of health at best

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u/TreadingOnYourDreams 28d ago

The real hot take.

Batman would be dead.

Peak human can't evade gunfire.

No body armor can withstand multiple shots from a high-caliber weapon.

The love child of Bruce Lee and Mat Frasier isn't getting out of this one alive.

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u/TheGreatPizzaCat Aug 05 '25

I definitely think it depends on the version of the character and circumstances/environment.

Peak performance post-crisis Bruce is ridiculously inhuman, and has enough consistent feats & enhancements to make up for a lack of plot armor imo (seriosuly who decided to let Batman have nth metal).

I do see every on-screen depiction getting killed if they went in batarangs-blazing, honestly faster than a lot of people would want to believe too.