r/whowouldwin • u/[deleted] • 6d ago
Challenge Can Jack Slash (Worm) convince these villains to join the Slaughterhouse Nine?
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u/respectthread_bot 6d ago
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u/Agile-Palpitation326 6d ago
Well, I only really know about Homelander and Adam Smasher, so I'll limit myself to them.
Without Broadcast Jack doesn't get a nudge in the right direction, but I think he's talking his way around Homelander alright. John's trauma leaves him with two options emotionally, be a lab rat or call himself god, plus he already has fantasies about going nuts and killing as many people as possible. The tests would be a chance to prove his superiority, and the "found family" angle Jack has with Bonesaw would give Jack a chance to make John think there'd be a possible emotional fix for him there too. Homelander DESPERATELY wants a family which the Nine provides, in a particularly twisted way. Honestly, if a group like the Nine existed in the boys I'd be surprised if Homelander didn't eventually end up joining them.
"You get to do whatever you want, and these people will always accept you" is tempting.
The hardest part is convincing Homelander that he'd get to be the one in charge. Hardest, not HARD part. Just let Homelander be the one to pick and choose where they go every once in a while and let him choose two people to nominate so he gets to be special. Jack, meanwhile, would have a new game playing Iago instead of Jaffar while still keeping control of his rabble of murder hobos.
As for Adam Smasher, that's a harder sell. Adam basically has all the wanton violence he wants, gets paid for it, gets supplied new and more interesting ways to kill people pro bono, and can even have his brain put into a normal looking body so he can step out of that life at will. The challenge is convincing Adam that the Nine can both provide better equipment than the entirety of Arasaka as well as opportunities he wouldn't get otherwise. There's definitely a path there if he offers out Bonesaw and Mannequin's help. Thinking about it, pointing to Mannequin as a possible "This could be you" could go incredibly well or incredibly poorly. However without Broadcast Jack doesn't get quite the guarantee that he'll choose the right dialogue choices.
Ultimately, Adam Smasher is basically Mannequin if he was also Crawler, so it's possible, maybe even likely. But Jack has to convince Adam that either Arasaka is holding him back, or that it's time he fought the people who built him because wouldn't that be great?
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u/GodNonon 5d ago edited 5d ago
For Homelander, I think it depends on how Jack approaches it.
On the one hand, Slaughterhouse Nine is right up Homelander’s alley. A “family” in which he doesn’t have to hide or be ashamed of his psychopathic tendencies. He can finally shed his humanity and be “loved” by likeminded individuals.
But on the other, being a part of S9 would mean Homelander is hated by 99.9% of the planet, so he can kiss his precious reputation behind. Homelander claims he’s fine with being feared if he can’t be loved, but he still seems to very much care about his PR above all else.
Also, he probably wouldn’t like the fact that there are people like Crawler or Siberian who can physically keep him in check. It’d be very hard for his ego to no longer be the strongest guy in the room.
Ultimately I’d say (unless Broadcast works on him) Jack could convince Homelander but more likely than not, Homelander declines. Then he tries to laser Jack and gets ripped in half by Siberian lol
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u/bombardonist 6d ago
Jack can’t talk an amnesiac skitter into trusting him for more then 5 minutes, he really really leans on his power and doesn’t consider anyone it can’t effect as actually people. He immediately offends everyone on the list and dies.
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6d ago edited 6d ago
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u/bombardonist 6d ago
You might have fallen for his hype, in the story he is explicitly written to not be smart or charismatic. From the author:
“He isn't charismatic when it comes down to it, his references are shallow, his 'evil genius' is even more shallow (see the eye rolling from various story commentators when Jack talks about how he made Cherish do the trials all over again), and if you take away the forced gimmick he's basically an edgelord.”
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u/Mammoth_Western_2381 6d ago
Caligula: Not familiar with him. So no opinion.
Homie: I don't think so. Homie is mentally weak enough to be manipulated, but joining the Nine won't give him what he desires (to be adored by all unconditionally), in fact joining such a openly and nightmarishly brutal group would run in the exact opposite direction. Best Jack can do is set one of the S9's female members to be Homie's dommy mommy gf.
Yoru: Yes. Yoru is almost comically stupid in-character, and what the S9 already does is pretty damn close to an ''endless war''.
Adam Smasher: Same as Caligula.
Kenjaku: Jack is cooked. Kenny is not only more intelligent and manipulative than Jack, he has lived for 1000 years and has commited atrocities that rival those of the Nine. It is much more likely that he turns Jack into a true believer than the opposite.