r/whowouldwin Jan 15 '15

[Death Battle #23] Son Goku Vs. Superman

Fuck......

CAUSE I CAN! Goku can sense Supes via Ki.

Remember Canon only sources for Supes and Goku unless otherwise stated.

Round 1: PC Superman Vs Goku; Goku get's everything that doesn't contradict the Manga.

  • Round 1b: Only manga feats

Round 2: Nu52 Supes Vs Goku Pre BoTG

Round 3: Just so everyone Deathbattle gets their thing. Supes w/ All-star comic Vs GT Goku

Round 4: Strongest person Flutterguy's depiction of Goku can beat.

Round 5: Strongest person Ragegeta's depiction of Goku can beat, this also includes that insane speed calc.

Round 6: Will this battle Ever end?No

Bonus: If you don't want to say who wins, just make a reason why Deathbattle's calcs were wrong.

As per rules of Death Battle, they're both going for the kill

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u/Kumquatodor Jan 16 '15

Remember though, Kid Buu's durability is lower than Super Buu.

Wasn't Kid Buu the one who fought Goku and Vegeta?

So either one of two things are true: Either Buu being destroyed by his own blasts are PIS, or Gokart and Vegetables aren't planet-busting with physical attacks (which would mean that Split-Durability Theory is true).

There is also a laser feat for Kid Goku somewhere as well that floats around here. I'd find it but I'm not home atm so it wouldn't be possible. I'll try when I get home.

I'll wait.

Yes. Though Death Battle severely lowballed Goku in this feat as well, claiming he didn't even go the 1,000,000km just doing 1/3 of it or so.

The thing is... 35,700 kilometers an hour is still ridiculously slow. It's .0036% of lightspeed.

When did he achieve this feat, and how much faster has he got?

Add in the fact he can use ki blasts in general to distract Supes, I think its a big advantage.

Perhaps, but Superman can also bathe in the brightness of the sun; the light won't be necessarily. It would be like a punch to him, and I'm not sure ki is FTL.

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u/EdgiestFool Jan 16 '15

Wasn't Kid Buu the one who fought Goku and Vegeta?

Yes but Super Buu with all the people he absorbed was stronger.

So either one of two things are true: Either Buu being destroyed by his own blasts are PIS, or Gokart and Vegetables aren't planet-busting with physical attacks (which would mean that Split-Durability Theory is true).

A user just mentioned below me the planet busting is Filler. He is still a planet buster though.

There is also a laser feat for Kid Goku somewhere as well that floats around here. I'd find it but I'm not home atm so it wouldn't be possible. I'll try when I get home.

The laser also wasn't a laser apparently.

The thing is... 35,700 kilometers an hour is still ridiculously slow. It's .0036% of lightspeed. When did he achieve this feat, and how much faster has he got?

Saiyan Saga. Like episode 10-11 of DBZ. He has gotten a lot faster.

Perhaps, but Superman can also bathe in the brightness of the sun; the light won't be necessarily. It would be like a punch to him, and I'm not sure ki is FTL.

Ki travels ridiculously fast. If you believe power scaling and fan calcs. One Fan Calc that isn't just bullshit but is backed up, has Piccolo in DB blow up a Moon with his Ki Blast traveling at 51% of lightspeed. And they got faster.

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u/Kumquatodor Jan 16 '15

He is still a planet buster though.

Good. I assume being torn apart by his own blast was therefore filler as well?

He has gotten a lot faster.

He'd have to get 27,000 times faster just to reach lightspeed, which Superman is far faster than.

has Piccolo in DB blow up a Moon with his Ki Blast traveling at 51% of lightspeed.

I see no problem with that fancalc.

Which is nothing when Superman fights at least MFTL.

How fast does ki get?

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u/Last_Account_Ever Jan 16 '15

Not sure why this hasn't been brought up by pretty much anyone, but Goku does have instant transmission which has him travelling much faster than light speed. He picked up that ability after the Snake Way feat happened, so the Snake Way feat is moot anyway.

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u/Kumquatodor Jan 16 '15 edited Jan 16 '15

IT's cool, but imagine if Goku tries it, teleports behind Superman and starts throwing a punch. Superman looks around, finds Goku's punch (going at a snail's pace to Superman), and blocks.

No matter how fast Goku can teleport, if he doesn't hit MFTL, Superman could just find him and dodge.

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u/zerojustice315 Jan 16 '15

To go off this I'd love to see a Super Buu vs. Kid Buu WWW.

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u/Kumquatodor Jan 16 '15

It would be a nice read. You should post it.