r/whowouldwin • u/Joseph_Stalin_ ​ • Aug 12 '15

[Death Battle #47]Knuckles Vs Donkey Kong

Round 1: Comics only Knuckles

Round 2: Games only

Round 4: Both

As per rules of Death battle, they're both going for the kill

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u/StandupGaming ​ Aug 12 '15

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT!

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u/dothbadder ​ Aug 12 '15

RIP Sonic's Death Battle winning streak.

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u/StandupGaming ​ Aug 12 '15

It's not their first lost, Shadow lost to Vegeta, though that win was much more valid.

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u/dothbadder ​ Aug 12 '15

Haha, DK definitely wins this. Comics and Sonic X aren't canon.

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u/galvanicmechamorph Aug 12 '15

And the DK cartoon is? DB doesn't care about what's canon. They used the DCAU and All-Star Superman for crying out loud.

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u/galvanicmechamorph Aug 13 '15

They talked about his weaknesses from the cartoon(the hair thing) and if we're just talking about anything that would help DK out then there's the fact that Knuckles isn't dumb in the games. And outside of the moon feat(which is a massive outlier) Knuckles outclasses him if we're using all versions like DB does.

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u/galvanicmechamorph Aug 13 '15

Sure for his cartoon, but by using other sources they lowered Knuckles intelligence, therefor giving DK the win.

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u/PonyTheHorse ​ Aug 13 '15

Knuckles could of been smarter and still lost. The Strength difference the two have is immense, and the two have the same combat skill which is what really matters.

Even then he's never been a clever Echidna.

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u/galvanicmechamorph Aug 13 '15

And the speed? Because you know, strength doesn't matter if you can't hit him. They act as if it was a small difference and not like Knuckles would be running circles around him the entire time. DK would never even hit him while Knuckles uses his steel punching claws to rip him to shreds.

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u/StandupGaming ​ Aug 13 '15

and the two have the same combat skill which is what really matters.

Knuckles is a trained martial artist, and he's smarter than DB gave him credit, and he's much faster than DK, their combat skills aren't even remotely similar.

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u/galvanicmechamorph Aug 13 '15

Falling for deception isn't even close to being stupid enough to follow your own map without realizing it.

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u/StandupGaming ​ Aug 12 '15

If Knuckles didn't have a hyper form they would have just said Strong Kong cancels out Super Knuckles and leave it at that, they completely ignored when Knuckles OHKO Super Sonic instead opting for a non canon scene that paralleled DK's moonfeat, then they discounted it for being an outlier, even though DK's moonfeat was very freaking clearly an outlier too.

They don't seem to actually bother doing the math needed to find out who'd win, it just seems like they pick a winner and do just enough math to justify it.

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u/Zankman Aug 12 '15

DB care about outliers? Since when, lol?

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u/StandupGaming ​ Aug 12 '15

Normally they don't, but they discounted Knuckles "big" feat for that reason and kept DK's anyways. It's ridiculous.

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u/dothbadder ​ Aug 12 '15

Because Donkey Kong actually punched the moon. Knuckles punched a receiver controlling half of the moon. It's not rocket science.

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u/StandupGaming ​ Aug 12 '15

They literally used the word outlier.

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u/dothbadder ​ Aug 12 '15

Yes, because both feats had outliers. DK's was that it was the Marioverse moon; Knuckles was that he didn't actually punch the moon. They were trying to make the point that neither was as impressive as they seemed. Knuckles was just less impressive.

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u/StandupGaming ​ Aug 12 '15

Well by that logic it's not a feat at all and shouldn't have been included. Other feats such as knocking out Super Sonic were openly ignored.

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u/SebastianMcQueen ​ Aug 12 '15

I would definately count DK's as an outlier since the moon falls in the same way for Diddy too.

Donkey's Ending

Diddy's Ending

The Moon reacts in the same way and it seems Diddy was only trying to slow himself down and not collide with it.

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u/KiwiArms ​ Aug 13 '15

Or Diddy is just like super strong

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u/Parysian ​ Aug 12 '15

Yeah, plus the Moon in that scene is obviously very small compared to the real moon. Also, not very high above the Earth..

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u/Juderex ​ Aug 13 '15

Which they explicitly pointed out in the Death Battle.

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u/shadowsphere ​ Aug 12 '15

then they discounted it for being an outlier

They did not at all. If you listen properly they said that Knuckles wasn't the cause of the moon moving and if he was it would have been an outlier (most likely they just said this to cover their asses in case he was actually the cause and they got it wrong).

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u/dothbadder ​ Aug 12 '15

I disagree, but I'm pretty bad at explaining myself, so I just say we agree to disagree.

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u/You_and_I_in_Unison Aug 13 '15

Dk has a shitload of crazy high strength showings and durability showings, vs what 1 high level knuckles showing? They were just giving a calc on the easiet to calc of feats like that, I'm right now convinced he'd win based on strength and durability from the vid and comments still.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '15

when Knuckles OHKO Super Sonic instead opting for a

Knuckles has knowledge of how the emeralds work. He can turn them off anytime.

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u/StandupGaming ​ Aug 13 '15

That's a rationalization, but even if it wasn't they'd still have to mention that instead of just shrugging it off.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '15

Strong Kong cancels out Super Knuckles and leave it at that

I don't believe that at all. There's feats for characters influenced by the power of the emeralds and the only correlations strong kong has are immunity to environmental hazards and lesser enemies.

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u/StandupGaming ​ Aug 13 '15

According to Death Battle, Strong Kong cancels out HYPER Knuckles, their logic being super forms cancel each other out. I was pointing out the flaws with that logic by pointing out they would have said the exact same thing about Super Knuckles if Hyper Knuckles didn't exist.