[Death Battle #47]Knuckles Vs Donkey Kong

[u/Joseph_Stalin_]

Round 1: Comics only Knuckles

Round 2: Games only

Round 4: Both

As per rules of Death battle, they're both going for the kill

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[u/StandupGaming]

It's not their first lost, Shadow lost to Vegeta, though that win was much more valid.

[u/dothbadder → u/StandupGaming]

Haha, DK definitely wins this. Comics and Sonic X aren't canon.

[u/StandupGaming → u/dothbadder]

If Knuckles didn't have a hyper form they would have just said Strong Kong cancels out Super Knuckles and leave it at that, they completely ignored when Knuckles OHKO Super Sonic instead opting for a non canon scene that paralleled DK's moonfeat, then they discounted it for being an outlier, even though DK's moonfeat was very freaking clearly an outlier too.

They don't seem to actually bother doing the math needed to find out who'd win, it just seems like they pick a winner and do just enough math to justify it.

[u/Zankman → u/StandupGaming]

DB care about outliers? Since when, lol?

[u/StandupGaming → u/Zankman]

Normally they don't, but they discounted Knuckles "big" feat for that reason and kept DK's anyways. It's ridiculous.

[u/dothbadder → u/StandupGaming]

Because Donkey Kong actually punched the moon. Knuckles punched a receiver controlling half of the moon. It's not rocket science.

[u/StandupGaming → u/dothbadder]

They literally used the word outlier.

[u/dothbadder → u/StandupGaming]

Yes, because both feats had outliers. DK's was that it was the Marioverse moon; Knuckles was that he didn't actually punch the moon. They were trying to make the point that neither was as impressive as they seemed. Knuckles was just less impressive.

[u/StandupGaming → u/dothbadder]

Well by that logic it's not a feat at all and shouldn't have been included. Other feats such as knocking out Super Sonic were openly ignored.

[u/dothbadder → u/StandupGaming]

That's because the Super Sonic feat is moot. One could argue that everything before Adventure is a different canon, or that Super Sonic has become more powerful over the years, which he has. There are no real feats for SS pre-Adventure, so it's hard to measure how strong he really is. I doubt Knuckles is more powerful than Solaris, which Super Sonic could keep up with

[u/StandupGaming → u/dothbadder]

They used comics and the TV show and Boom Knuckles which is a confirmed different canon and that's your argument? At the very least they could have tried calculating how strong he was in that game, but they literally didn't even try.

[u/dothbadder → u/StandupGaming]

No, that's not even what I said. I cited that as an argument someone could have against that feat. I wasn't actually making that argument myself. As for trying, how could they? That would be like trying to calculate how strong Mario is from the original Super Mario Bros. game. There just isn't enough there. These games were before complex cutscenes even existed. Notice that most of the feats come from the 3D games. As for using non-canon feats, none of them, besides the moon, were even mentioned in the final verdict. They were there as fluff to make the analysis longer.

[u/StandupGaming → u/dothbadder]

They could calculate how fast Super Sonic is (using a big range as it probably wasn't his MAX speed) and then calculate the force needed to stop something that fast dead in it's tracks, they could also find his minimum durability by calculating the force of the missiles in the Doomsday Zone. Those are just off the top of my head, supposedly they should be way better at this stuff.

[u/dothbadder → u/StandupGaming]

Probably to avoid being trashed. They were criticized the last time they used a feat from a Genesis game (i.e. Tails lifting 10 Tons).

[u/StandupGaming → u/dothbadder]

Do you think they'll get less criticized for using Sonic X and Sonic Boom Knuckles than they will for using his most notable game?

[u/dothbadder → u/StandupGaming]

Not saying I agree with doing that, but it's just the most likely thing, IMO