r/whowouldwin • u/mrcelophane ​ • Nov 03 '15

Interactive Character Scramble V: The Orphans

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So fam, I done goofed. I got really caught up in a lot of stuff that happened (VooDoo Fest, Football, Pelicans Season Opener at the Blender, and Mother-in-Law-to-Be coming in town) and just really dropped the ball on this one. That said, I was really at a loss to do even if I had time to post. I think the "time off" actaully gave me time to come up with a pretty good idea that will allow us to eliminate The Purge next season in favor of doing this in one round (Though I really liked seeing the Purge posts, so who knows).

Welcome to Orphan pick up.

The following teams failed Round 0:

If (and only if) one of your characters on your team is one submitted by someone on that list, you may adopt the character that they were assigned in that role instead. So, for example, /u/galvanicmechamorph got Wild Cat, who was submitted by demonbirk, who was unable to complete Round 0. They can, if they wish, replace Wild Cat with Pai Mei.

Why? the whole point of The Purge was to remove characters that would not be properly supported in terms of the submitter. Also, I don't like characters from inactive teams being in the competition on principle. So while it is optional, I prefer if you do.

Furthermore, there was much clamoring to have a way to redistribute teams. While this would be nice, it was tried last season and did not really work, so i want to give this a try instead.

In the unlikely event (I haven't looked enough to know if this happens) that the character you would adopt is also from an owner no longer in the game, please keep following the daisy chain till you reach one that is acceptable.

I know many already had stories going...its up to you how you want to handle this story wise (death and replacement, retcon, etc)

If you want to replace, please post here with all the who's and whats by Thursday night at 6:00 pm CST. I want to try to post Round 1A on Friday and get this going.

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Characters that will be removed if not adopted (cue PETA commercial music)

Owner Physical Attacker PhyType Special Attacker SpecType Trainer TrainType Monster MonType
/u/Blastoise_FTW Veronica Madaraki Steel Misaka Mikoto Electric All-Star Batman (with 30 Minutes of Prep Time) Dark Topo the Octopus Water
/u/Bramif Yuga Kuma, a blend of alien and life energy. Fairy Lemongrab Poison Sora and Shiro (Werebeasts) Normal Yahg Shadow Broker (Mass Effect) Fighting
/u/CosmonautSpiff Mario (Super Mario) Fire Bad Mr. Frosty Ice Captain Levi Steel Jack Krauser Normal
/u/DeloreaBrea Boba Fett Flying Isaac (Binding of Isaac) Dark Yue Ayase Electric A Veteran Predator Bug
/u/demonbirk Pai Mei Fighting Cirno Ice Rick Sanchez (see OP for loadout) Normal The Shapeshifter (Gravity Falls) Water
/u/Domjules Batman Beyond Dark End of AtLA Katara Water Marth (Composite Smash and Main FE) Steel Tai Lung Fighting
/u/PrimeGopher Eikichi Onizuka Fighting the Lunatic Cultist Psychic New 52 Poison Ivy Grass Kimahri Ronso Water
/u/redistheold Kaladin Stormblessed Flying Ryoko Habiki(1 gem) Dark Will Treaty Fighting Jason Voorhees Ghost
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u/shinyskarmory ​ Nov 03 '15

The issue for me isn't so much power as it is definitions. Video game characters are always tricky (although I admit I didn't do too much better in this regard) because you can't take the numbers they have too literally.

The value of Lunatic Cultist depends on how we decide to scale his in-game combat to real life. I've seen a little bit of Terraria gameplay, and if his spells travel at the same rate IRL as they do in Terraria, I'm not sure how he could ever hit anyone with any of his shit. I have no idea how his listed damage values translate to real life bodily harm, either, and because player characters in Terraria can have so many different equipment setups and could be anywhere from athletic human to superhuman, it's hard to really gauge the power of his abilities relative to the tier we're playing in.

I PMed the guy who submitted LC for more information, if I'm satisfied with what he gives me I'll probably pick him up.

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u/PokemonGod777 ​ Nov 03 '15

I'm a big Terraria fan, so I can provide info.

/u/globsterzone said he did a test on the Lunatic Cultist's Power, defeating him with Cap level gear, approximately, being Mid-High tier armour and Light Discs, which do a sizeable amount of damage

High Level Terraria Characters can stomp the Cultist, and that's with End Game armour, and far above Cap and Batman, so we don't use them in this example

LC's fire attacks are pretty fast in-game, each block is 2 feet wide and tall, so being able to hit people from 12 metres away in a matter of a second or two is really impressive. His Ice Attack, while slow, has a lot of range. The Lightning Attack is mild in speed, but has a bit of homing , and a lot of range.

Here's a video of one of the best Terraria Players beating the Cultist in Low-Mid Tier Armour and Mid tier weapons

Plus, his death results in the appearance of a large scale lunar invasion.

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u/shinyskarmory ​ Nov 03 '15

That video was fantastic for showing off his stuff, thanks.

His spells actually travel a lot faster than I thought they did, that sounds absurd in WWW. The problem is that his attacks don't seem to hit all that hard in universe-if a Cap/Bat level character has 600 HP and his attacks deal 60 each, he's just cherry tapping for most of the match and a lot of people will be able to no sell him. I'm going to have to consider this further...

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u/PokemonGod777 ​ Nov 03 '15

a 600 HP character with End game armour would be far above Batman tier, being able to defeat The Moon Lord, which is a cosmic eldritch abomination that can two or three-hit kill even the most prepared of players with its lasers.

a 600 HP with the Armour and weapons in the video would probably be slightly below Batman and Cap, Probably being able to 4/10 them, if anything, comparing Bat/Cap to Terraria terms, I'd say that they'd have Lower HP, around 500, which is the max without potions, but higher defensive armour.

Even without that, what wasn't shown, I don't think, was the Cultist's Summon of the Phantasm Dragon, which is a long serpentine dragon which is very deadly to even well equipped players.

The player in question was also using several defence increasing potions and accessories, Meaning that the average hit would be 70-80, on the average player would be 80/500, so nearly 1/5 HP is pretty sizeable, also considering his attacks are fast enough you can get chained.

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u/shinyskarmory ​ Nov 03 '15

That's all really useful information, thanks. On that HP scale, LC's 36000 HP looks a lot more intimidating-he'll be the tankiest special attacker in the competition, it's going to be very hard for anybody to actually kill him before he has a chance to do work. That plus his flying and rapidfire spell casting makes him a really scary opponent.

/u/mrcelophane I'm sold. I'd like to replace Abelard with the Lunatic Cultist for round 1.

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u/PokemonGod777 ​ Nov 03 '15

The funny part is, by Terraria's Standards, 32000-ish HP isn't too bad, considering casual enemies in The Frost Moon event by the end, have 30000 and you have to fight up to 8-12 at a time.

But yes, I think the Lunatic Cultist will be a great character to see in the scramble. Hopefully you can do him justice! I should submit a Terraria Boss next time This is making my current Think list: A JoJo Character,a Terraria boss, and PepsiMan

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u/globsterzone ​ Nov 04 '15

Just don't take Fishron! I plan to submit him next scramble, unless I win.

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u/PokemonGod777 ​ Nov 04 '15

But Fishron is my favourite!

I'll probably end up using Skeletron Prime or Plantera though

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u/globsterzone ​ Nov 04 '15

Prime would be awesome! Plantera seems a bit big for the scramble, though.

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u/PokemonGod777 ​ Nov 04 '15

Maybe, it's probably the vines that make it tricky, otherwise its the same size as most of the other bosses, but it'd be interesting to see how it plays out

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u/globsterzone ​ Nov 04 '15

She would have a hard time moving about above ground, though. Just my thoughts on the matter.

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u/PokemonGod777 ​ Nov 04 '15

But that's the fun! Plantera is enranged when above ground! Yrimir beating enranged Plantera with less than optimal gear, for example

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u/globsterzone ​ Nov 04 '15

Ooh I just realized the twins would be really awesome in the scramble!

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u/PokemonGod777 ​ Nov 04 '15

Very much so, any boss, barring the Moon Lord, could work very well.
Kind of a shame though, I really wanted to see the Moon Lord in this type of thing, but he's gargantuan and too powerful

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