r/whowouldwin Nov 22 '16

Special Character Scramble VII Tribunal

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Welcome to the Tribunal!

As of now, signups for new submissions are officially closed.

Here’s a quick rundown of how this will work:

For the next week, all characters are under review. If you think a character is not fit for the scramble, here is where you have a final say to air your grievances. Also, this is a good chance to go over the submissions and make sure that the correct name is showing, I have the correct info, etc. I ask that everyone at least take the name under theirs and review all of the submissions.

If you have any problems with characters:

  • Create a comment with the name of the character in question, a link to that character sheet, and the username (with /u/, to summon them- /u/mrcelophane, for instance) of the submitter. Then list what questions/problems you have with the character.

  • Please be respectful when calling out characters, and remember that you are probably pointing out problems with someone's favorite character/series.

  • Please give a complaint about each character a separate reply to make sure that conversations are organized.

  • If a resolution is reached that does not require a change on my end, please delete your post so that it removes clutter.

  • If a resolution is reached that requires my intervention, please call me out and I will come help out.

If your character is called out:

  • First, realize this is not a personal attack. We are just trying to ensure that this tournament runs smoothly for everyone.

  • Please address the concerns brought forth. This can either by standing firm and arguing for your character’s inclusion, or by buffing/nerfing the character. Please keep the amount of buffs and nerfs to a minimum. This isn’t a good place to redesign the character from the ground up.

  • If it’s agreed that a character cannot work in its current state and can’t be easily edited, replacements from the backup submissions will be issued based on role. If one of your characters is being removed you are free to request a specific backup to replace your submission, otherwise myself or the Co-GM will choose for you.

If you see a problem with the roster:

  • Make a post and let me know. Odds are, you will have to resubmit the form with the correct info so if you want to just go ahead and do that and let me know to look for the new entry, that would save time.

  • If your problem is that you don't show up in the list, its because you never filled out/submitted the form...just go ahead and do that NOW, assuming that you started your sign up process before this post was created.

Featured submissions:

In an attempt to help aid the review process, we will be highlighting a section of the submissions each day to focus the lens on a group of submissions. Understand that these submissions aren’t being picked due to any reasoning or bias beyond their position on the list, our goal is to help you focus on specific parts of the submission list each day in the hopes that characters that would normally pass under the radar are given proper scrutiny.

Link here!

The link will be changed each day until we’ve covered the entire submission roster or until Tribunal has ended.

Link to list of current backups


What follows will be the current unscrambled roster:

Submitter Name CharacterSheet Role
JosephStalin Rath Brawn
JosephStalin Demongo Mystic
JosephStalin The Experiment Arsenal
JosephStalin The Boss Wildcard
JosephStalin Megamind Sponsor
JosephStalin Handsome Jack Sponsor
76sup Reptile Brawn
76sup Rain Mystic
76sup Waluigi Arsenal
76sup JonTron with Magician's Red Wildcard
76sup GLaDOS Sponsor
76sup Krakua Wildcard
MoSBanapple Nogi Wakaba Brawn
MoSBanapple Administrator Mystic
MoSBanapple Eve Neuschwanstein Arsenal
MoSBanapple Ruby Rose (Blood Rose) Wildcard
MoSBanapple Church Sponsor
MoSBanapple Strength Arsenal
GuyOfEvil Karnak Brawn
GuyOfEvil Kessler Mystic
GuyOfEvil Mirror Master Arsenal
GuyOfEvil Alice Twilight Wildcard
GuyOfEvil Mr. Sinister Sponsor
GuyOfEvil Silk Wildcard
ViperhawkZ Alex Mercer Brawn
ViperhawkZ Sekarvu Mystic
ViperhawkZ The Meta Arsenal
ViperhawkZ Zeratul Wildcard
ViperhawkZ Coil Sponsor
doctorgecko "Deku" Izuku Midoriya Brawn
doctorgecko Mew (First Movie) Mystic
doctorgecko Cynthia and her Garchomp Arsenal
doctorgecko Nico Robin (Pre-Timeskip) Wildcard
doctorgecko Green Sponsor
doctorgecko Sabrina (Pokemon Anime) Mystic
aquason Omi Brawn
aquason Yamoto Koki Mystic
aquason Dark Pit Arsenal
aquason Lizzie Shinkicker Wildcard
aquason Milo Amastacia-Liadon Sponsor
selfproclaimed Stevonnie Brawn
selfproclaimed Twilight Sparkle Mystic
selfproclaimed Iji Arsenal
selfproclaimed Littlepip Wildcard
selfproclaimed Fuuka Yamagishi Sponsor
selfproclaimed Wiz and Boomstick Sponsor
shootdawhoop99 Alex Louis Armstrong Brawn
shootdawhoop99 Dave Strider Mystic
shootdawhoop99 Conker the Squirrel Arsenal
shootdawhoop99 LEGO Spiderman Wildcard
shootdawhoop99 Blank Sponsor
teatreeoilguy King Kong (Original Version with Animated Version's Feats) Brawn
teatreeoilguy Shang Tsung Mystic
teatreeoilguy Mr. Satan (w/ gear from the games) Arsenal
teatreeoilguy Goku (Dragonball Evolution) Wildcard
teatreeoilguy Happy Mask Salesman Sponsor
teatreeoilguy Goku Jr. Brawn
LetterSequence Dio Brando (Part 1) Brawn
LetterSequence Pikachu Libre Mystic
LetterSequence Mifune Arsenal
LetterSequence Bollywood Action Hero Wildcard
LetterSequence All-Star Batman Sponsor
LetterSequence Akira Otoishi Mystic
Talvasha Lady Maria Brawn
Talvasha Vin Venture Mystic
Talvasha Zi Yu Arsenal
Talvasha Yu Mira Wildcard
Talvasha Adlet Mayer Sponsor
Talvasha Mr. Red Brawn
Lanugo1984 Agent Smith Brawn
Lanugo1984 Eddie Riggs Mystic
Lanugo1984 Triborg Arsenal
Lanugo1984 Pops (T-3000) Wildcard
Lanugo1984 Rick Sanchez (Earth C-137) Sponsor
ojajaja Greninja Brawn
ojajaja Jake Long Mystic
ojajaja Green Goblin Arsenal
ojajaja Superior Spider-Man Wildcard
ojajaja Emma Frost Sponsor
ojajaja Recca Hanabishi Mystic
Cleverly_Clearly "Sleepy" John Estes Brawn
Cleverly_Clearly Katsuki Bakugou Mystic
Cleverly_Clearly Travis Touchdown Arsenal
Cleverly_Clearly Saiga Riki-Oh Wildcard
Cleverly_Clearly Crazy Dave Sponsor
Cleverly_Clearly Ryoga Hibiki Wildcard
TheMightyBox72 Shizuo Heiwajima Brawn
TheMightyBox72 Princess Peach Toadstool Mystic
TheMightyBox72 Samus Aran Arsenal
TheMightyBox72 Hisako Wildcard
TheMightyBox72 Akane Kurashiki Sponsor
TheMightyBox72 Captain Pronin Wildcard
flutterguy123 Yujiro Hanma Brawn
flutterguy123 Star Butterfly Mystic
flutterguy123 Furio Mumbasa Arsenal
flutterguy123 Arlong Wildcard
flutterguy123 Spencer Reid Sponsor
rangernumberx Mr. Incredible Brawn
rangernumberx Mewtwo (16th Movie) Mystic
rangernumberx Adam Jensen Arsenal
rangernumberx Lucario (Composite) Wildcard
rangernumberx Wade Sponsor
SirLordBobIV Kiyomasa Senji Brawn
SirLordBobIV Weiss Schnee Mystic
SirLordBobIV Lubbock Arsenal
SirLordBobIV Beet Wildcard
SirLordBobIV Maxwell Sponsor
7thSonOfSons Vi Brawn
7thSonOfSons Jack Mystic
7thSonOfSons Xenovia Quarta Arsenal
7thSonOfSons Ryu Hayabusa Wildcard
7thSonOfSons Rias Gremory Sponsor
KarlMrax Furher Bradley/Wrath Brawn
KarlMrax Plague Knight Mystic
KarlMrax Alicia DeVries Arsenal
KarlMrax Shovel Knight Wildcard
KarlMrax VFP Xenophobe Sponsor
penrosetingle Reinhardt Wilhelm Brawn
penrosetingle Marisa Kirisame Mystic
penrosetingle Pathfinder Armour Arsenal
penrosetingle Santana Wildcard
penrosetingle Dr. Elliott Grosvenor Sponsor
Fragmentary_Remains Tarboy Brawn
Fragmentary_Remains Queen Sectonia Mystic
Fragmentary_Remains President Haltmann Arsenal
Fragmentary_Remains Kracko Wildcard
Fragmentary_Remains Gerhard Visser Sponsor
noitnemid King Dedede Brawn
noitnemid Alice Margatroid Mystic
noitnemid Curly Brace Arsenal
noitnemid Joseph Joestar Wildcard
noitnemid Robin Sponsor
Parysian Smaug Brawn
Parysian Gaara of the Sand Mystic
Parysian The Collector General Arsenal
Parysian Chevalier Wildcard
Parysian Summoner Sponsor
Parysian Helen, The Administrator Sponsor
Steezy112 Hellboy Brawn
Steezy112 Alphonse Elric Mystic
Steezy112 Cad Bane Arsenal
Steezy112 Jake the Dog Wildcard
Steezy112 Stewie Griffin Sponsor
morvis343 Durin's Bane Brawn
morvis343 Balthazar Blake Mystic
morvis343 Baymax Arsenal
morvis343 Deadpool Wildcard
morvis343 Bastila Shan Sponsor
Alrightmagotlistenup Edgardo Brawn
Alrightmagotlistenup Kanade Tachibana Mystic
Alrightmagotlistenup Draven Rowen Arsenal
Alrightmagotlistenup The Rabid Heavy Taming Engineer, and his Rabid Heavy Wildcard
Alrightmagotlistenup Robbie Rotten Sponsor
TheArmoredTitan Superman Brawn
TheArmoredTitan Rin Tohsaka Mystic
TheArmoredTitan Ruby Rose Arsenal
TheArmoredTitan Killy Wildcard
TheArmoredTitan Sosuke Aizen Sponsor
globsterzone Kamacuras Brawn
globsterzone Magneto Mystic
globsterzone Darkhawk Arsenal
globsterzone Hellsgaard Wildcard
globsterzone Dr. Fetus Sponsor
Verlux Albert Wesker Brawn
Verlux Edward Elric Mystic
Verlux Don Krieg Arsenal
Verlux Wolverine Wildcard
Verlux Fred and George Weasley Sponsor
angelsrallyon Stitch Brawn
angelsrallyon Sora Mystic
angelsrallyon General Grievous Arsenal
angelsrallyon POTUS Wildcard
angelsrallyon Scorpius Sponsor
BookWyrm17 Mr. Canis/The Big Bad Wolf Brawn
BookWyrm17 Nico de Angelo Mystic
BookWyrm17 Luigi Arsenal
BookWyrm17 Tigger Wildcard
BookWyrm17 Gru Sponsor
Professor Ravioli Dr Stein (Weilding Marie) Brawn
Professor Ravioli Jackie Mystic
Professor Ravioli Sogeking Arsenal
Professor Ravioli Shouta Wildcard
Professor Ravioli Shikamaru Nara Sponsor
kaioshin_ Yang Xiao Long Brawn
kaioshin_ Johnny Blaze Mystic
kaioshin_ Dick Grayson Arsenal
kaioshin_ Penny Polendina Wildcard
kaioshin_ Piccolo Sponsor
kaioshin_ Pyrrha Nikos Wildcard
galvanicmechamorph Garnet Brawn
galvanicmechamorph Diamondhead Mystic
galvanicmechamorph Preston Stormer Arsenal
galvanicmechamorph Pyrrha Nikos Wildcard
galvanicmechamorph Black Hat Sponsor
OddDirective Sheamus Brawn
OddDirective Flynt Coal Mystic
OddDirective Kyosuke Munakata Arsenal
OddDirective Gluttony Wildcard
OddDirective Mr. Finch Sponsor
Panory Rex Salazar Brawn
Panory Maka Albarn and Soul "Eater" Evans Mystic
Panory Shuri Arsenal
Panory Giriko Wildcard
Panory Durzo Blint Sponsor
FreestyleKneepad Iron Fist Brawn
FreestyleKneepad Yozakura Brawn
FreestyleKneepad Bruno Buccellati Mystic
FreestyleKneepad Taskmaster Arsenal
FreestyleKneepad Morel Mackernasey Wildcard
FreestyleKneepad Bob the Skull Sponsor
FreestyleKneepad Commander Shepard Sponsor
Kiwiarms Magikarp Brawn
Kiwiarms Kyuemon Izayoi (MidoNinger) Mystic
Kiwiarms Aigis Arsenal
Kiwiarms Zoe Orimoto Wildcard
Kiwiarms Rita Repulsa Sponsor
Kiwiarms Zilla Brawn
7thSonOfSons Rika and Renamon Mystic
CalicoLime Esdeath Brawn
CalicoLime Sir Crocodile Mystic
CalicoLime Fulgore Arsenal
CalicoLime Mysterio Wildcard
CalicoLime Kingpin Sponsor
CalicoLime Warrior Chicken Poyo Brawn
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u/kaioshin_ Nov 23 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

Working from the bottom-up because why not.

/u/shootdawhoop99

  • Armstrong: Seems okay
  • Dave: Should be fine powerwise, understanding the character's personality and story is a bit harder, but I think between Shoot, myself, and other Homestuck fans, it should be explainable.
  • Conker: Already addressed I believe
  • LEGO Spiderman: He's less serious than normal Spidey, which should counteract the minor buff. Might want a second opinion though.
  • Blank: To be honest, I don't like the idea of the Love Gun. It's the sort of think Killy is getting removed for, being "too strong on people it hits, useless on people it doesn't. I think some other item/items to give out would be better. Maybe some video game items, based off them being game masters?

/u/selfproclaimed

  • Stevonnie: I still think they might be a little weak, but a second opinion is welcome.
  • Twilight Sparkle: Her telekinesis is way too strong. Lifting the bear thing is easily a couple hundred tons with the water tower. She also just seems way too versatile without losing much in the way of damage output, while still having decent speed.
  • Iji: Seems okay.
  • Littlepip: Discussed, but may still need a second opinion.
  • Fuuka: Seems okay.

Will review Wiz&Boomstick and continue onto more people in a bit.

/u/aquason

  • Omi: Seems okay
  • Koki: Seems okay
  • Dark Pit: Might be a bit strong, but I'd need a second opinion. If he is out of tier, it's not by much, so he wouldn't need to eat manor nerfs.
  • Lizzie: Was/is being discussed here.
  • Milo: Seems okay

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u/shootdawhoop99 Nov 23 '16

As a replacement drop, how would giving the team the ability to use Blood Destruction (a werebeast ability where reflexes, reaction time, and perception are enhanced for a limited time) for 10 seconds sound? If that's too powerful, I could say it's limited to 1 team member per round.

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u/Talvasha Nov 24 '16

How much of a buff is the werebeast boost? Cause if that alone would let a regular man beat batman, its going to let the more powerful receivers end teams in one go.

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u/shootdawhoop99 Nov 24 '16

It's certainly powerful in its own right, but it only happens for a limited time even in the show. 10 seconds is a long time for a fight in the scramble, but I doubt it will be anything that decides the winning blow. Even then, Blank defeats two people at two different times that used that ability, so while it's a great ability, it's only as good as the people in control of it. Alone, it would not be enough to defeat batman, just gives an advantage.

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u/Talvasha Nov 24 '16

I just remember when the Miko used it, she generated a shock wave just by activating it, so it feels like a place of risk.

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u/shootdawhoop99 Nov 24 '16

The shock wave was more for visual style in my opinion, and didn't really do much.

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u/Talvasha Nov 24 '16

Perhaps. I just worried about all applied boosts, like with 7th and Rias. Static boosts run the risk of being not to helpful, while multipliers turn pretty much anyone into a team crusher.

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u/shootdawhoop99 Nov 24 '16

My reasons for selecting it are such:

  • Blank should be able to utilize it to the best of their ability.

  • It's not a deal breaker, as it can only happen once per person per round.

  • It happens for a limited time, so it's unlikely to be the winning factor.

  • Gives the team a small boost, which could come in handy in a pinch.

  • The person has the choice to not use it. If they don't like Blank, they might not listen.

  • It's not a multiplier. Just enhances reflexes, reaction speed, and perception.

  • Does not bolster strength.

For these reasons, I think it would be a balanced ability that gives a good advantage without being too powerful and mean an automatic win. And if it is, the variables can be shifted to where only one team member gets it per round, to shortening the time they can activate the ability, to how many times it can be activated. Does that make sense?

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u/Talvasha Nov 24 '16

I can see why you decided to select it. However:

Blank should be able to utilize it to the best of their ability.

The person has the choice to not use it. If they don't like Blank, they might not listen.

these two points seem to counter each other.

It happens for a limited time, so it's unlikely to be the winning factor.

10 seconds its completely arbitrary for Spiderman tier. An entire fight could go down in that time, or they could take 10 seconds to just move from locale to another.

It's not a multiplier. Just enhances reflexes, reaction speed, and perception.

Right, but it moved what amounted to a humanish character to a bullet timer. What does that do to someone who already is a bullet timer?

does not bolster strength

Are you sure?

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u/shootdawhoop99 Nov 24 '16

these two points seem to counter each other.

I'm afraid the points don't. To the best of their ability means they work with what they've got, and if they have a team member that doesn't listen, they have to work with that as well, to the best of their ability. If the person doesn't want to use it for whatever reason, they have to work with that. They probably could anyway.

10 seconds its completely arbitrary for Spiderman tier.

I don't feel like 10 seconds is too much, but if it is, I can easily change it. Not a big deal.

Right, but it moved what amounted to a humanish character to a bullet timer.

Werebeasts were famous for being rather vicious in the war, and are greatly stronger and faster than your average human. After all, they're two ranks ahead of humans on Disboard. Saying a werebeast is humanish is like saying your average person is infantile. On top of that, the love gun bullets do NOT move as fast as regular bullets. If they did, what Blank did would not possible, as they are quick, but not bullet timers. They were able to act quick enough to know where the bullet would be, so they were fast enough to pull the trigger. So it make an already above peak human character below bullet timing abilities.

Are you sure?

I'll let Phineas take this one.

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u/Talvasha Nov 24 '16

That almost makes me think its not helpful, but you seem sure, so i'll let it go.

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