Ace has fighting feats as he was a pirate for a long time even getting so fast as joining white beards crew prior to getting the flame flame fruit. I believe he was normal while fighting jinbei as well.
but that skews it ridiculously in favor of those who are main characters. We have no choice to use logic to scale people logically when they don't have enough screen time.
It seems like that would become the question of where we stop. Do we assume that Ace could use haki in the present day when he only demonstrated a single unconscious use of it? Do we assume that he's stronger than people like Big Mom's Sweet Commanders because he was on Whitebeard's crew, even if he didn't demonstrate that level of strength? (maybe he has; this isn't something that I've looked too deeply into)
There's no reason to believe that Ace wasn't going all out against Blackbeard. Even if he couldn't use his Devil Fruit thanks to Blackbeard's Devil Fruit, it still gives us something to work with as far as things like speed, durability, and his fighting ability without his powers are concerned.
Well he has two devil fruit powers for one thing. We don't know what the dark dark fruit can do but it's already shown to be extremely powerful beyond any other fruit we've seen. Its enough to immediately put him on the level on the Yonko.
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u/beardedheathen May 03 '17
Ace has fighting feats as he was a pirate for a long time even getting so fast as joining white beards crew prior to getting the flame flame fruit. I believe he was normal while fighting jinbei as well.