r/whowouldwin • u/That_guy_why • Jul 23 '17
Special The Great Debate Season 2 Round 2
Current Brackets
Rules
Debates are structured: Both respondents get Team Introductions, 1st Response, then 2nd response, then a 3rd response, and finally closing statements that summarize their argument. Closing Statements can be posted at anytime after responses are done. Each round is one week; each reply has a 48 hour response time however, allowing you to take more time to respond at the cost of not finishing your rebuttals in the week. Winners of a round are determined by voting on who debated their points better. All tourney participants must vote to proceed or face disqualification.
Speed Equalized
Arena: Aboard a SHIELD Helicarrier, cruising at a 1-mile high altitude over the ocean. Additionally, a 20 foot tall shield is erected on the outskirts of the carrier on all sides to reduce but not eliminate the possibility of Battlefield Removal. Combatants start 5 meters apart.
Fight is to KO, Death, Incap, or Battlefield Removal
Fighters are fully in-character
Your submitted characters will have basic knowledge of who their teammates are and what they do, but they cannot outright attack their teammates with the intention to harm them. Additionally, your characters will be given 5 minutes pre-battle to strategize. They know the arena, but not their opponents.
Battle Format
Like Last Tourney, Matches will be randomized to either be a full 3 vs. 3 Team Fight, or 3 individual 1 vs. 1 singles matches between all the characters. As always, this will be determined by coin-flip, with heads being team battles and tails being individual matches.
So without further ado:
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The decision is Tails, ergo:
All Matches all be individual 1 vs. 1 matches, with match-ups decided by character team order. (Your first choice vs. theirs, your second vs. theirs, and your third vs. theirs)
Do be sure to introduce your team to your opponent, team intros help everyone. Feel free to combine your Team Intro and First Response too, save space.
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u/Captain-Turtle Jul 29 '17
Kakashi vs Megaman
It pierced through rock completely fine, it pierced through the skin of bijuu who have super durable skin that could block the sword of kusanagi that hurt a living staff made of diamond
Like I said, Kakashi doesn't throw them out there, he replaces himself with them to catch the enemy off guard, and those blasts seem pretty small and not that hard to dodge, especially with kakashi having the sharingan, kakashi's aoe also seems larger and more impressive mid-range AOE.
Yes on an open battlefield, Kakashi still has his underground move to burrow around and has smoke bombs and clones to bait and surprise attack with or also attack him from behind, and with his experience of being a ninja, should get surprise attacks in.
Kakashi could still out-maneuver him and get an advantage shot in since he's a good tactician with an IQ above 200, his experience should notice when megaman has an opening of attack, also megaman wouldn't immediately go start flying just cause of him seeing kakashi, it'd most likely be a mix and since kakashi has better mid-range with water techniques and kamui, he shouldn't have an issue mid-range.
Still seems smaller than kakashi's waterfall and kamui bypasses durability
So the actual repulsion is 24/7 or something? Or only comes once when activated then is gone, if latter, it isn't that great and kakashi should still bypass.
yeah that's pretty good but as a ninja kakashi would go lethal and aim for the head/heart, at least a move like kamui would open him up for attack like the watershark, dragon, fall or bullet or a raikiri to end him and kakashi always aims for a lethal area
Kakashi has better mid-range attacks, experience, skill, and h2h with being a better fighter than rock lee with also the sharingan, he gets the advantage
Kimimaro vs Sogita
yeah that's closer to building buster instead of multi city-block but is still out of tier, venom would probably die if getting pummeled down a condensed ball of building tops, and sogita can output more power multiple times, put that with his healing and giving the only out for venom be some webbing when he barely webs people down and you got an out-of-tier dude. The building feat Venom had was when he was hulked out on mercury virus and is definitely less impressive than busting all those broken building clumped up together as they are more dense by being all clumped together and the building he broke seemed a lot older and weaker, he OoT. Venom's only way to win is to do something out of character and that makes sogita unfair to use.
Neji vs Jessica
Redirecting flames won't work cause the byakugan sees the attack and would dodge it
Venom literally has 1 opportunity to BFR Jessica, because as you said, she can upgrade her defense, now if you have a someone who has the ability to manipulate fire, automatically upgraded defenses after a single hit as well as upgrading attack as time goes on and insane healing to the point of never being able to be killed, against a dude with super strength and a weakness to fire who BFR'ing has a chance to happen and wouldn't be his first option to attack, and with all that, there's also a forcefield around the area that's harder to make it so that the unkillable, fire-lady who constantly becomes stronger flies off? Then you have an OP character through and through.