r/whowouldwin Dec 20 '17

Special [Death Battle]Sephiroth vs Vergil

Vergil Respect Thread by me

Sephiroth Respect Thread by /u/ShadowSphere

Round 1: Regular Versions

Round 2: Nelo Angelo vs Whatever Peak Sephiroth is.

As per rules of Death Battle, they're both going for the kill

https://youtu.be/8sdzSDKquiY

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '17

You know what’s funny? I was thinking the same thing but I didn’t know how to phrase it. I guess that why people on this sub like to separate gameplay from lore.

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u/x_Saturn Dec 20 '17

When someone stars with level 1 stats in everything, and can beat basic level soldiers easily, and ends with 999 stats, they'd be universe busting by scaling. Which is why cutscenes are the best for accurate power, because it shows what the developers really think the characters powers are.

Just my 2c. I still think Sephiroth would win, but that ridiculous scaling made their argument weaker.

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u/Klondeikbar Dec 20 '17

Don't most JRPG protagonists end up wildly overpowered by endgame? I imagine universe busting is a bit hyperbolic but I can't remember the last time I played a JRPG where my late game characters weren't casually smacking around dragons or dropping mountains on things where they started the game dying to giant rats and slimes.

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u/x_Saturn Dec 20 '17

Yes, but not the magnitude they had to resort to for this battle. If you were really even just 100x stronger than you were vs those slimes, the weight of the sword you were swinging would be multiplied by 100. Let's say the average sword is 3 pounds. You are now capable of swinging a 300 pound sword like it's nothing.

That's not even going into the realm of the fact that RPG typically has people starting out with 80ish pound swords (Buster Sword) so after his stats went from 1 to 100 each, he could swing around 8,000 pounds of sword with the same ease he was swinging the 80 pound one at lvl 1. The logic doesn't work.