r/whowouldwin • u/Joseph_Stalin_ ​ • Dec 20 '17

Special [Death Battle]Sephiroth vs Vergil

Vergil Respect Thread by me

Sephiroth Respect Thread by /u/ShadowSphere

Round 1: Regular Versions

Round 2: Nelo Angelo vs Whatever Peak Sephiroth is.

As per rules of Death Battle, they're both going for the kill

https://youtu.be/8sdzSDKquiY

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u/LoIIygagger Dec 22 '17

Ch. 7: They start off at opposite sides, then they run at each othet, of slaahes, just the part where Vergil defeats Dante

I told you that the rain drop scene is what represents the boss fight and thus is what the boss fight technically is. The scene you quoted is when after the player beats Vergil.

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u/Joseph_Stalin_ ​ Dec 22 '17

No it isn't, there's more scenes prior to them running at each other. Dante shot at him and they talked to each other a bit IIRC. There's no room for the raindrop, sit is clearly shown where it is, but is replaced completely.

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u/LoIIygagger Dec 23 '17

Ok that whole scene in the beginning was just a more condensed version of Dante and Vergil's fight. It is still there but some parts are cut like the talking.

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u/Joseph_Stalin_ ​ Dec 23 '17

It isn't there, the raindrop scene is completely removed.

Intro

Chapter 7

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u/LoIIygagger Dec 23 '17

I'm saying the intro is condensed version of what happened in the boss fight. And if you really want to show that it is retconned then take it up to Capcom and ask if that Intro is retconned.

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u/Joseph_Stalin_ ​ Dec 23 '17

I literally showed you it was retconned, you are just trying to make excuses to keep it in.

It is not in the main game, I'd love to take it as canon, but it isn't by Capcom themselves retconning it.

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u/LoIIygagger Dec 23 '17

I told you the intro was the condensed version of things. It has things cut in place. The obvious clashing aka the raindrop scene in the intro signified player vs vergil in the boss fight.

The intro still adheres to the what happened in the boss fight it just missing some talking. There is no retcon.

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u/Joseph_Stalin_ ​ Dec 23 '17

If this scene is "cut", altars scenes, changes sequences of events, guess what: It isn't canon.

The one with all the talking, full sequence of events, and all that jazz is the canon one.

You're admitting it is different, yet claiming it is still valid. Why should I take the abridged version as fact, when there's canon one? Cause there's a feat that's good?

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u/LoIIygagger Dec 23 '17

The whole purpose of that Intro was to surmise what was happening in the game. Of course stuff is gonna get cut because it is the intro.

It is not abridged. You can take that fact that the intro represents the condensed version of the fight.

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u/Joseph_Stalin_ ​ Dec 23 '17

Surmise

Yes, it was to tell the player what was happening. Not the actual damn events taking place, which is why Lady was narrating the whole ordeal.

In your defense of it not being abridged, you used the very definition of the word. "shorten (a book, movie, speech, or other text) without losing the sense"

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u/Cleverly_Clearly ​ Dec 23 '17

The literal definition of "abridge" is "to shorten in duration or extent". Can you explain why the sequence that is a shortened version of another sequence isn't an abridged version of events? Because those two things are actually synonymous.

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