r/whowouldwin • u/NesMettaur • Sep 05 '18
Special DEATH BATTLE #98: Optimus Prime (Transformers G1) VS the RX-78-2 Gundam (Mobile Suit Gundam)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyh2iO0rCh4
As usual, both are going for the kill. Battle takes place in space, just outside of Earth's orbit. As far as I can tell the Optimus they're using is composited between all of his G1 incarnations be they cartoon or comics, while other stuff (Cybertron, Bayverse, Animated, etc.) aren't considered.
For fun, let's also talk about some other possibilities for this fight Death Battle didn't consider. I don't know much about Gundam, but from what I can see Amuro went on to pilot other Mobile Suits so I'm curious if any of them are better or worse than the RX-78-2 in combat. How would they change the matchup?
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Sep 05 '18 edited Sep 05 '18
I have no fucking clue about either of these characters (it does feel like they lowballed Gundam's strength, just seemed way too much of a disparity), but it was nice to see two franchises WWW doesn't debate endlessly like DC/Marvel/DB. One thing, though, is that the fight kinda sucked. Ryu vs. Jin was a great example of a 3D fight with a lot of weight and choreography - but here, I mean, when they fell from orbit they just sort of landed. Even the finishing move just sort of happened. The voices could have been better, too, and the hand drawn stuff felt pretty out of place, but eh. They obviously put work into it, just not feeling it. Like Power Rangers vs Voltron, that was really fun, this just wasn't.
Nightwing vs Daredevil live action
Now that's pretty cool. Pretty sad my man Matt is gonna get his ass kicked though
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u/NesMettaur Sep 05 '18
The episode's the first one animated by a new team of animators, since the old one for 3D fights moved over to Rooster Teeth. I'm sure they'll improve with due time, just as long as critique's offered and they aren't bashed.
Can't speak on the Gundam's strength levels but since the fight was basically "super robot VS real robot" the math makes sense. Some of it's still iffy (i.e. calculating the force it took for the Matrix to kill Unicron is like calculating how sharp the Master Sword has to be to kill Ganondorf- it's something that has the power to specifically kill something else and shouldn't be treated like a conventional weapon), but thematically the numbers line up.
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Sep 05 '18
The episode's the first one animated by a new team of animators, since the old one for 3D fights moved over to Rooster Teeth. I'm sure they'll improve with due time, just as long as critique's offered and they aren't bashed.
Ah, okay. Good to know. Hopefully they will get better, yeah, I guess even Torrian started with Deadpool vs Deathstroke
Can't speak on the Gundam's strength levels but since the fight was basically "super robot VS real robot" the math makes sense. Some of it's still iffy (i.e. calculating the force it took for the Matrix to kill Unicron is like calculating how sharp the Master Sword has to be to kill Ganondorf- it's something that has the power to specifically kill something else and shouldn't be treated like a conventional weapon), but thematically the numbers line up.
Mm, fair enough. Hopefully the three Gundam experts on this sub will be able to clarify whatever they got wrong
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u/Cardboard_Boxer Sep 05 '18
This fight is also their first animation using the Unreal engine. Not sure how much that affects things, but I could imagine them having trouble getting used to the new tech.
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u/RegisXNex Sep 05 '18
Hopefully the three Gundam experts on this sub will be able to clarify whatever they got wrong
Don't know what the experts here would say, but I will say that I took more of an issue with their presentation of information and portrayal of the character and MS than anything else. The results were fine though. I know little to nothing about transformers, but even just eyeballing feats, Optimus was going to win
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u/Pluck_adj Sep 05 '18
Off the top of my head looks like they highballed the Gundam a bit. The Red Comet seriously tripling speeds because it was painted red is an obvious meme.
The Gouf flip is also a bit misleading as the Gouf would only be that heavy at its maximum loadout which wasn't the case.
Shave about 15% off what they claim it can do and it's not too egregious.
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u/Villag3Idiot Sep 06 '18
Char's Zaku II-C going triple speed had been retconned. The reason he's going triple speed is because he jump boosts off ships as he's firing at then point blank.
His Zaku II-C is only like 20-30% faster.
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u/CorneliusApplebottom Sep 05 '18 edited Sep 05 '18
fwiw the guy who did the 3d fights for years is now working on a new show at Roosterteeth, so the three people who have been animation assistants/interns on the last few ones took over almost completely starting with this episode.
Edit:lol beat to the punch
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u/Cardboard_Boxer Sep 05 '18
The voices could have been better
Optimus Prime's grunts in particular we're... hrrmmmmmmm....
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u/1Pwnage Sep 05 '18
That's the thing though: the RX-78-2 Gundam wasn't really lowballed much at all. Optimus was overvalued, but that isn't a fair fight to begin with, even base Optimus outmatched the peak performance of the 78-2. They should've used later Gundam with more equivalent power
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u/polaristar Sep 05 '18
DB has battles where there is a huge gap in strength ALL the time. It's actually pretty hard finding a match-up that is both Thematic and where both combatants don't have too big a gap. That and a lot of match-ups are simply done due to popular request.
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Sep 05 '18
Oh, I know a lot of requests tend to be curbstomps (cough Flash vs. Quicksilver cough) but seriously, 700k tonner to 73 tonner? Something just doesn't seem right there.
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u/doublejay01 Sep 05 '18
With gaps that big I assume they didn't know when they started. Many of their battles are more theme based than "these two are evenly matched, let's see who edges out"
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u/polaristar Sep 05 '18
Well that wouldn't be soo bad if the Firepower in the weapons was closer as well as the durability.
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u/KiwiArms Sep 06 '18
From what I understand, Optimus vs the RX-78 was one of the top ten or so most requested Death Battles, so there wasn't much they could do.
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u/LittleMann Sep 05 '18 edited Sep 05 '18
Good god, do I love that music. Nothing like a pastiche of an 80s power ballad to accompany a heated fight between two retro mechs. The fight itself was pretty fun, even if it isn’t the most amazing 3D battle Death Battle’s put out. The lighting was pretty cool, and moments like Amuro pulling out his swords and that face grind into a spinning wheel heel drop got me excited.
Another departure from DB’s usual methods of presentation is up next. I wonder what kind of new experience Daredevil vs. Nightwing is going to be. I’m expecting some great choreography, at the very least.
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u/-ImJustSaiyan- Sep 06 '18
I wonder what kind of new experience Daredevil vs. Nightwing is going to be. I’m expecting some great choreography, at the very least.
Idk if you've ever seen BatInTheSun's Vs videos, but I'm expecting something like that.
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u/Villag3Idiot Sep 06 '18 edited Sep 06 '18
Just a note that Death Battle used the TV series in some of the info like the G-Armor, Hyper Hammer/Beam Javelins and the Magnetic Field feat. The TV series is non-canon in favor of the movie trilogy. The reason for this is that in the TV series, the RX-78-2 was kind of super robot-ish and unusually agile/acrobatic. This was changed in the movies. Proof of this is in Zeta Gundam with flashbacks of Hayato in the Guncannon, and in Char's Counterattack when during Char's flashback, it showed Sayla Mass in the Core Booster; both being Movie Trilogy material.
They also didn't use any of the technical manuals for the Gundam series.
The beam rifle is a particle accelerator that fires charged Minovsky Particles. Minovsky Particles are tiny sub-atomic particles with mass. A beam shot is essentially billions of tiny sub-atomic particles slamming into something, destroying matter at a molecular level. This is the reason why armor is so useless against Universal Century beam weaponry.
Beam Sabers are accelerated Minvosky Particles turned into plasma contained within an I-Field. The temperatures of the GM-Sniper[C] of the One Year War, a mass production MS, had a beam saber temperature of 250,000c.
In order to defend against it, you need incredibly thick armor and it doesn't actually repel the beam, just prevents it from cutting all the way through and reaching the internals. The mobile suit, The O was an example of this. Eventually though, all armor became meaningless as beam weapons got more and more powerful and MS were instead built to be smaller with less armor. Gundams from the F91 era and beyond were actually less armored than One Year War MS.
So yes, the beam rifle could and would have been able to take down Optimus if it hit him.
As for Newtypes, it wasn't Earth weighting down their souls, its human evolution as humans migrate to the stars. As generations pass as humanity lives in space, some humans are born adapted to living in space and develop heightened spacial awareness.
They said Char's Zaku II-C is three times faster than the base model. That's actually retconned as only 30% faster. The reason it appears to be moving three times faster is because Char has a habit of boost jumping off ships to gain speed.
Using RX-78-2 is a terrible mismatch.
RX-78-2 is outdated as soon as White Base reached Jaburo. By then, Amuro's Newtype abilities had reached the point where he could input commands faster than RX-78-2 can carry them out. They tried to mitigate this with the Magnetic Coating upgrade which would increase response time of the joints, but even that wasn't enough. The problem was the frame of the RX-78-2. It had reached its operational limits.
They even had other RX-78 series Gundams, several much more powerful than the RX-78-2 (the RX-78-2 is just an average prototype made from V Project).
They had to build a brand new frame just for Amuro, which would become the NT-1 Alex from 0080. Near the end of the war, Zeon had managed to build a mass production unit that's superior to the Gundam, the Gelgoog.
RX-78-2 also had less agility because it lacked a Movable Frame. The Movable Frame is essentially designing a MS as a skeleton and then placing components around it. This gives it a more human range of movement. Previous MS were just component blocks slapped together. This meant that pre-Movable Frame MS were more armored, but less agile and more restrictive in its movements.
They're using composite Amuro from CCA in the RX-78-2. The RX-78-2 is slow as molasses compared to the Nu Gundam.
Now that being said, Optimus was still going to win this. The beam rifle would no doubt have been able to damage Optimus, but with just 16 rounds, its highly not likely to hit someone of Optimus' level of skill. The RX-78-2 is just too outdated for this fight. They needed to at least give Amuro the NT-1 Alex to have made this a better fight, though Amuro would very likely still lose in the end. If Optimus' skill and stats couldn't do it, Deus Ex Matrix would have.
TLDR; Death Battle did crap research on the Gundam series, but it wouldn't change the end result in Optimus' victory.
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u/LiquidFolly654 Sep 06 '18
Optimus prime can tank hits from antimatter, a wormhole collapsing on him, the reality warping bullshit of Nova Prime within the Dead Universe and D-Void (a god of death).
Beam rifle is like a laser pointer.
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u/KiwiArms Sep 06 '18
Just a note that Death Battle used the TV series in some of the info like the G-Armor, Hyper Hammer/Beam Javelins and the Magnetic Field feat. The TV series is non-canon in favor of the movie trilogy. The reason for this is that in the TV series, the RX-78-2 was kind of super robot-ish and unusually agile/acrobatic. This was changed in the movies. Proof of this is in Zeta Gundam with flashbacks of Hayato in the Guncannon, and in Char's Counterattack when during Char's flashback, it showed Sayla Mass in the Core Booster; both being Movie Trilogy material.
And they used, by my count, four different continuities for G1 Prime.
They's composites, ya see.
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u/hashcheckin Sep 05 '18
by rights, I'd expect DD to do okay in a fight against modern Nightwing since most of what I've read with Dick makes him seem weirdly gadget-resistant. he doesn't have an endless number of flash-bangs wedged into his belt (still sorta salty about the fight choreography on Batman Beyond vs. Spidey 2099), and the simple win against DD is always gonna be a loud noise into a finishing blow. DD's also effectively stealth-immune, so Dick trying to retreat into the shadows would just earn him a baton to the face.
that being said, I'd expect Dick to figure out DD is blind within a couple of minutes of the fight starting, due to Bat-detective chops, and then cast about for a way to make a loud noise. this is way closer than DD vs. Bats would be, though, and you could book it going either way without too much trouble.
at a guess, they're probably going to make a really big deal out of all those bullet-dodging/catching/deflecting feats that DD picked up in Frank Miller's various runs, plus Bendis had DD overturn a stretch limo by hand one time.
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Sep 05 '18
loud noise into a finishing blow
DD's had earbuds that prevent this from screwing him up too badly for some time now, I believe.
that being said, I'd expect Dick to figure out DD is blind within a couple of minutes of the fight starting, due to Bat-detective chops,
Nightwing's a good detective, but he's much slower than Bats when it comes to this kinda stuff, especially in new 52. He might not actually deduce it at all - I could see another BB vs S99 thing where he just gets lucky or something dumb.
at a guess, they're probably going to make a really big deal out of all those bullet-dodging/catching/deflecting feats that DD picked up in Frank Miller's various runs, plus Bendis had DD overturn a stretch limo by hand one time.
Nightwing's also had a lot of point blank range dodging when it comes to bullets, even stuff like sniper rifles and the like.
I could actually see DD winning this if one of two things happens: they completely fuck up speed like they've been doing consistently since WW vs Thor (Nightwing SHOULD be much faster than DD. DD is admittedly fast enough to move after bullets have been fired, but much of his dodging/deflecting ability is reliant on the radar sense, since he knows where the bullet is in the chamber) or they give DD his Shadowland powers for whatever reason. On another note they might even throw DD fans a bone for his DBX loss against Kenshi.
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u/hashcheckin Sep 05 '18
I do wonder how much of their research process is influenced, if at all, by the fact that certain characters losing would guarantee a lengthy flame war in the comments. people who click on the video to continue an argument are statistically equal to people who click on the video just to watch it, after all, and Bat-fans get het up when a Bat-character loses a fight. you could do Batman vs. Unicron in a no-prep fistfight, with exactly the outcome that would suggest, and you'd still end up setting a measurable fraction of the Internet on fire.
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Sep 05 '18
Lol that definitely is another factor. It was very obvious they wanted this response for Thor vs Wonder Woman (even though the outcome was mostly correct, they knew exactly what they were doing by doing that fight then) and of course the fact that Batman has lost the majority of his fights despite being the most used character in DB is probably still ruffling people's feathers.
At the end of the day, we're just going to get fancalcs and narrative reasons to justify whoever wins, and that may very well be Daredevil. I can even imagine it: "It's true that Nightwing was extremely proficient in martial arts styles, but not one of them could have gotten through Daredevil's radar sense. First off, there was the difference in speed - Nightwing has only been shown capable of running up to 30 mph, whereas Daredevil was capable of dodging lightning from Electro, putting him at Mach 1775" throw in a bad joke from Boomstick, something something DD has beaten top tier martial artists in his verse and Nightwing only really fights Batman villains/characters, and boom, done
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u/TheRazorSlash Sep 05 '18
I could be wrong, but I thought the Matrix only had such a destructive effect on Unicron because it was composed of Primus, effectively making it similar to hitting a demon with holy water?
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u/NesMettaur Sep 06 '18
Nah, you're right. As far as I can tell the Matrix can't be used as a weapon in any context other than defeating Unicron. (As noted by some other comments here, Optimus can't fly either and his ability to do that was just early installment weirdness- later stories make a point of his inability to do that.)
Strikes me as somewhat similar to Sora VS Pit, in that the conclusion's generally agreed to be correct but they pulled a lot of dodgy stunts to get to that conclusion. Heck, that's even right down to the "ran calculations on something that isn't actually an offensive weapon and treated it as a weapon" thing, respectively with Optimus's Matrix and Sora's unlocking lasers.
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u/LiquidFolly654 Sep 06 '18
You should read the Takara G1 Mangas. Also, in G1 the All Spark and Matrix were the same thing, giving him the 'primal program'. That lets him rewrite life itself, technokenisis, and even if he dies he could just use any materials nearby to make a new body.
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u/polaristar Sep 05 '18
Curious how often we might do the Live Action DB's.
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u/manaworkin Sep 05 '18
Fuck yeah Holo is best girl.
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u/Extreme-Tactician Sep 05 '18
Holo from Spice and Wolf?
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u/manaworkin Sep 05 '18
Yeah, the one true god. You may not see if you're on mobile but it's his flair. It makes me happy.
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u/SoupEpicTrek Sep 06 '18
I'm hoping they aren't really often. Batinthesun has shown me that it can be really bad, and the budget for Screwattack probably isn't enough to foot multiple actors and fight choreographers, let alone the equipment needed to get all of the shots. It's probably going to be even less common than 3d animated fights, maybe 2~3 for the year.
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u/KiwiArms Sep 06 '18
can't wait for live action mechagodzilla vs dragonzord tbh
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u/polaristar Sep 07 '18
That does lead to the question what kind of fights will they reserve for live action, Daredevil and Knightwing make sense, since they are street levelers H2H. But at one point do we rage quit using live action special effects?
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u/KiwiArms Sep 07 '18
I think we can expect like, maybe batinthesun levels of special effects, at most
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u/Pohatu5 Sep 05 '18
I feel like the analysis for both fighters was a bit spotty, but I must say the actual fight was very enjoyable (if a little too grunty). Great music cues and the iconic poses and lines were well done. Honestly G1 optimus prime as they defined it was way too composited, but that's just how DB rolls.
DD vs NW sounds neat. I'd wager on NW; I'm not super knowledgeable on either, but to my knowledge NW has better high end, recent strength, agility, and fighting feats.
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u/Suirenji Sep 05 '18
The fight scene was absolutely amazing, but unfortunately anyone who has any experience with mecha knows that when you put a real robot against a super robot, the super tends to come out on top. The RX-78 is also one of the weakest Gundams in the entire franchise due to its age, and even in story it was retired because Amuro's piloting capabilities exceeded what the machine could deliver.
Honestly, I would have liked to see them pit something from the Brave series, like GaoGaiGar, against Optimus. Not only would it have been a much closer match, the two series are very closely connected by their history.
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u/Vussar Sep 05 '18
Didn’t they say during the buildup that the Gundam Suit couldn’t survive entry speeds? Surely the fight was over then?
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u/RegisXNex Sep 05 '18
They lied (sortof). It did have equipment built to survive atmospheric re-entry, but they presented it as a footnote all the while saying it cannot. Still have no idea why they did that.
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u/Extreme-Tactician Sep 06 '18
Fun fact: This is the first Death Battle to be rendered in Unreal Engine.
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u/astrakhan42 Sep 05 '18
As far as Amuro's other suits, the Nu Gundam and its novel equivalent the Hi-Nu Gundam may stand a better chance thanks to the funnels and psychoframe. (In the grand scheme of things, Amuro hasn't used a lot of suits in canon.)
Now in theory, if you put Amuro in the Full Armor Unicorn and give him a couple of months of training, then I could see the fight being much closer. Also an AI version of Amuro used the insane Reversible Gundam in a Build Fighters Battlogue short which would put Prime up against a transformable suit.
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u/RegisXNex Sep 05 '18
but from what I can see Amuro went on to pilot other Mobile Suits so I'm curious if any of them are better or worse than the RX-78-2 in combat. How would they change the matchup?
The only problem I would see this happening, if we were to stick canonically to what he ends up piloting throughout his later career, is how undefined some feats would become when doing crossover fights.
- Rick Dias, Dijeh, Z Plus: results still in Optimus's favor
- Zeta Gundam Unit 3: Ehh, biosensor-related effects (if it's installed, I can't remember) might balance the fight a teeny tiny bit, but still a stomp. Optimus wins.
- Nu Gundam and any of its variants Amuro pilots: The only factor I think really matters here is what the psycho-frame can do to Optimus. In CCA, the Nu was able to push half, or at least a sizable chunk, of Axis away from Earth, a mining astroid supposedly capable of causing a global nuclear winter had it made impact. All of this due to the psycho-frame turning the will of Amuro and the surrounding pilots into kinetic energy (and a weird glowy rainbow curtain of light). That being said: it was fatal for the pilot. Sadly, it's all we can go off of if we stick strictly with Nu Gundam. Other psycho-frame equipped MS like the Unicorn Gundam better present their psycho-frame related feats, but the issue would be that 1) not Amuro (but honestly, that might be able to be waved off) and more importantly 2) Nu (and its variants) only had that material (psycho-frame) installed in or around its cockpit. The RX-0 Unicorn units all had the psycho-frame built around the entire MS. How much of that would factor into the feats is debatable.
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u/-ImJustSaiyan- Sep 06 '18
I'm really gonna miss Torrian's 3D fights :( I hope he'll do another one some day, when he's not too busy with Rooster Teeth.
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Sep 06 '18
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u/-ImJustSaiyan- Sep 06 '18
Nah, he didn't. Was just saying I'm gonna miss him, especially after seeing this fight. I know this is the new 3D animators' first big fight, and honestly it wasn't bad, but it was a pretty noticeable drop in quality from Torrian's work. I'm sure they'll get better over time with experience like Torrian did, but he set the bar pretty high, and the 3D fights just won't be the same without him imo.
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u/derpingwithinthederp Sep 06 '18
I thought for sure it was going to end in a draw once Prime saw the crumpled up corpse of a fucking kid in the Gundam after he won.
He would kill himself on the spot.
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Sep 05 '18
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u/ThrashThunder Sep 05 '18
It HAS to be Thanos vs Darkseid. It would make sense and be so fucking bad ass
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Sep 05 '18
What’re the predictions for the next episode? Nightwing is my favorite fictional character of all time, so I’d love for him to win, but I know next to nothing about DD.
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u/hashcheckin Sep 06 '18
off the top of my head, DD has better strength feats and is immune to attempts at stealth or concealment. Nightwing's more agile, has a somewhat longer history as a character, and has been known to use more gadgets.
without sitting down to read through a pile of comics, I could see it going either way. as I said above, though, DD has some borderline-superhuman reaction/speed feats in Frank Miller's runs on the character, and I suspect that might tilt things slightly in his favor.
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Sep 06 '18
strongest Optimus vs protagonist at his weakest and his weakest suit.... ok.
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u/KiwiArms Sep 06 '18 edited Sep 06 '18
They used the most iconic Optimus Prime, not even remotely the strongest. They wanted strongest they'd go Alternity and then it'd be like putting Superman up against a normal real world human it'd be such a mismatch.
And since they used the most iconic prime, they used the most iconic Gundam. Simple.
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Sep 09 '18
Alternity?
Jesus christ, they're all like Unicron.
And the iconic status of Prime and the gundam thing was obvious.
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u/1Pwnage Sep 05 '18
The two things that really got me were power difference and overvaluing Optimus. I'm no transformers geek but it seems from some people here that they really did overestimate Optimus on a number of feats- not that this was a fair fight to begin with.
The RX-78-2 Gundam wasn't really lowballed much at all. Optimus was overvalued, but that isn't a fair fight to begin with, even base Optimus outmatched the peak performance of the 78-2. They should've used a later Gundam with more equivalence in power, and if they wanna do 80's retro, use something like the fuckin' Zeta that Amuro pilots, or even the ZZ but with my man Amuro piloting. At least then they'd both be transforming robots, and the other stats may be more fair. Or even, considering Optimus' advantages, give Amuro the Hi-nu Gundam to compensate. Now THAT, I'd like to see. Or at least the Zeta he pilots. Really, anything more fair than that.
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u/SoupEpicTrek Sep 05 '18
Please don't misuse the "Special" tag. Those are supposed to be for sub-wide announcements and the such. Change this to "Serious". Also, I hope Death Battle LA is better than Batinthesun.
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u/Joseph_Stalin_ Sep 05 '18
Hey, I usually do these Death Battle posts and I was told by a mod to use the special tag. So /u/NesMettaur was good
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u/ZombieOfTheWest Sep 05 '18
It's basically going to be Batinthesun, but with research and less interesting fights. Say what you want about em, but SSBB had some really fun fights even if the matchup didn't make sense.
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u/SoupEpicTrek Sep 05 '18
At least they probably won't have hideous CGI for the fighters, since they, y'know, don't have any absurd powers. Plus, they probably could do it better anyways. Odds are these will be even less frequent than the 3d fights, since this will take actors and a ton of choreography.
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u/Beta_Ray_Jones Sep 05 '18
White Ranger vs Scorpion is the best fight Batinthesun has ever made, specifically because it doesn't require all the CGI their other fights do.
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u/NesMettaur Sep 05 '18
I'm used to the DB threads using the Special tag but, yeah Serious makes more sense.
Changed dutifully and hopefully that's minded in the future. Apologies!
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u/SoupEpicTrek Sep 05 '18 edited Sep 06 '18
hopefully that's minded in the future.
lol nope.
EDIT: For those who downvoted me, I'm not saying that the OP won't mind proper use of the Special tag, I'm pointing out that people often use the Special tag under the impression that it will give their meaningless post more karma, or think they are the only people "special" enough to use it.
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u/KiwiArms Sep 06 '18
Death Battle and One Minute Melee threads like this (as in, as close as we'll get to 'official' threads on them) are Special since they tend to be more discussions of the specific episodes than normal fight debates.
That's our official stance on it.
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u/SoupEpicTrek Sep 07 '18
Ok. It's mainly that there have been people who choose to use the Special tag under the pretense of it getting their post more karma.
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u/jrgolden42 Sep 05 '18
It's been a long time since I've watched the original Gundam so I'm just going to talk a bit about their Transformers analysis
Biggest gripe is the speed feat they used for Optimus. That specific instance was Optimus borrowing Sideswipes jetpack.
I'm also not that big of a fan of the way they composite characters. For the most part the Autobots were only able to fly like that in the pilot and it's generally always a plot point that most can't fly, but I guess it makes sense that they needed to include it for the sake of the space battle scene.
Also the Matrix only has that firepower when its specifically used against Unicron.
Finally Optimus should only be about half the height of the Gundam, but it's also a necessity for the video. At least they made him shorter than the Gundam
And super nitpicky, but they really shouldn't have used War For Cybertron/Fall of Cybertron footage since that's technically not G1, just has a very G1 aesthetic. It's actually part of what's known as the "Aligned" continuity and serves as a prequel to the Transformers Prime TV series