His Lightening Blade is nicknamed such, because he once sliced Lightening using this Jutsu in the Manga & that’s a direct quote from Guy Sensei.
Lightening travels @approximately 3,700 miles per second.
Why are you downplayed Naruto like it’s weak lmfao, Star Wars & Naruto are not in the same weight class. I’m pretty positive a lightening bolt wouldn’t even kill someone in Naruto like Kakashi..
But we’re talking only speed ft’s atm.
EDIT: Haku one of the first enemies in Naruto is or relative to Lightspeed, which is faster than Kakashi at that time.
you literally just confirmed what I said? the actually scene where kakashi cuts lightning is 100% filler arc, all we have is the quote from the manga that doesn't show exactly what was going on. If we're going to use cutting/blocking something as a combat feat then obi wan is lightspeed as well since he blocks lasers all the time.
1st of all you said “Filler Episode” not filler arc & regardless, later in the series Kakashi is able to go toe to toe with Obito & many other Paths of Pain. Not to mention that you need the Sharingan to be able to use the Lightening Blade, because that’s how fast he’s actually going.
Obito can beat Itachi & is faster than Itachi. We can scale to Itachi simply, as he(being Itachi) could react to Kiren & that’s literal lightning, possibly faster as it’s chakra enchanced & not implying that Kiren is created from chakra.
The blasters in Star Wars don’t shoot lasers at the speed of light. Blaster contain light, but the blast is not a pure light itself. It contains plasma, which has mass. If it would travel at light speed, it would require infinite energy to accelerate (a blaster does not have a hyperdrive), according to general relativity. Many people arrive to the conclusion that blaster fire at about 135MPH or less don’t at me on that.
With that logic bullets are relative to lightning bc there’s a flash of light propelling the bullet lol.
Not to mention that lasers that Blasters shoot are actually slower, significantly than bullets that we shoot irl example a gun can fire at median 1,800 miles per hour.
cutting, blocking
The feat itself is that Kakashi saw the lightening, ran up a wall to catch the lightning & hit it with such precision as if he knew exactly where it was going to go & cut it in half. The feat is his speed & reaction don’t downplay as if the lightning bolt hit Kakashi & he was defending himself or happened to hit the bolt. Filler or not his speed feats are back up later in the series & even in part(Haku is Lightspeed) 1.
Also what is this caveman logic?
With the way you think, Naruto can’t destroy a planet because you haven’t seen him destroy a planet in-universe lol.
Like I said earlier, I don't think jutsu lightning (Kirin) or blasters are actually light speed, but if we're going to consider jutsu lightspeed we'd need to do the same for blasters to be consistent, we don't really know the speed of either.
That scene where kakashi runs up a wall and catches lighting is filler we don't know any of the details of how or why kakashi cut lightning outside of filler. It could have happened like it did in the filler episode, or any other way, we haven't seen it in non filler capacity in any way shape or form outside gai mentioning it once.
Regardless, I'm done debating you want to wank naruto characters until you think they can beat goku feel free
Dude. Kirin is a jutsu that uses very little chakra to manipulate/control natural lightning in the atmosphere, Kiren is literally a lightning strike/lightning speed bare min.
Again..
ITS A LITERAL LIGHTNING STRIKE, it’s not Chakra based lightning-like attack.. It’s actually lightning being manipulated by Chakra to strike a target.
Mate, you keep talking about the filler episode, I don’t care about the filler episode. The Manga panel I choose came from the Chunin Exams, Chapter 114 to be specific, which is not filler, but it is a statement.
Obito for example dodge a punch from the Raikage(I think 2nd fastest man behind Lord 4th; pre-war arc) the Raikage is the speed of lightening, that’s his whole thing he’s the basic scale for lightning in Naruto.
Which btw Minato is bare min the Speed of Light, which is why he was fast enough to almost kill the Raikage.
Yet Kakashi & Obito went toe to toe with each other, not to mention when he fought the paths of Pain.
Unless you are arguing that Itachi is faster/stronger than Pain/Itachi.
I’m done debating you
I wasn’t aware we were having a debate, bc you’ve presented no real arguments lol. Your position is just Kakashi just can’t be atleast lightening bc the person above you demonstrated in a filler episode he can cut a lightening bolt in half.
Even though that goes as far back as the Chunin exams it is just a statement, you’re arguing that the Chunin Exams is filler even tho that Filler episode took place in Shippuden & not Part 1 Naruto lol.
Besides that i’ve scaled Kakashi to Itachi who reacted to Kirin which is actual lightning not a chakra-created lightning based attack. Besides the fact that he fought Pain, he went toe to toe with Obito who dodge an attack from the Raikage(pre-rinnegan) who is the speed of Lightening scale in Naruto.
I’ve demonstrated that his speed feats are consistent w/that statement. You lack an any actual argument & straight ignore the Itachi scale because you think Kirin isn’t actual lightning which is actually hilarious, so i’ll just take your concession + the W lol.
EDIT / / With all the evidence I’ve presented Kakashi could casually cut a lightning bolt in half
EDIT2 / / I just noticed your still on the blaster thing even when you said “Kirin isn’t lightspeed” which you’re right it’s not lightspeed, it’s a lightning strike so ofc it’s not lightspeed(which was never my argument).
Your argument with the Blaster was:
If we’re going to use cutting/blocking something as a combat feat then obi wan is lightspeed as well since he blocks lasers all the time.
(Just want to point out that you’re being disingenuous conflating cutting/blocking together)
So you compared Kakashi being physically able to with his own speed, run up a wall, then catch/react to & cut lightening exactly in half. Which is rated at 224,000 miles per hour or approximately 3,700 miles per second..
(It was just a speed statement tho & i backed that up later with feats.)
With Obi-Wan using *danger perception via the force** to blocking incoming lasers @>135MPH, which wouldn’t even make him even mach speed. Your logic is actual the opposite of intellectual and that’s me putting it nicely.*
If he could even scale to that or any Jedi, then Order 66 wouldn’t have been a threat to the Jedi. So pleasestop comparing someone who can fight Obito Uchiha, who is faster than the 4th Raikage with plasma-based weapon firing at >135MPH.
*It embarrassing. *
EDIT3 / / Stop talking about Lightspeed. Jesus.. Lightspeed is faster than the speed of Lightning. You act like Obi-Wan is relative or can react to Mach Speed, Kakashi is ridiculously faster than Obi-Wan regardless if he’s the speed of lightning(NOT LIGHTSPEED) or not.
Well you’re right it’s bare min the speed of lightning bc it’s actual lightning.
are lightspeed
I’m assuming at this point you can’t personally believe that characters are moving as fast as they do & not based on any actual evidence. That stops becoming a me problem if you’re just going to directly ignore the evidence & just be ignorant because you can’t believe it.
You essentially lost the “debate” when you lacked an actual argument to refute why Kirin isn’t lightning speed, when it’s a literal lightning bolt. When you say “I don’t think” that’s not evidence & such a comment discredits almost everything you’ve said on this thread.
So i’ll take my concessions.
My other comment just lays out more evidence for why Kakashi is certainly bare min the speed of Lightning.
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u/Chronic_Media Apr 29 '20 edited Apr 29 '20
Why are you lying?
His Lightening Blade is nicknamed such, because he once sliced Lightening using this Jutsu in the Manga & that’s a direct quote from Guy Sensei.
Lightening travels @approximately 3,700 miles per second.
Why are you downplayed Naruto like it’s weak lmfao, Star Wars & Naruto are not in the same weight class. I’m pretty positive a lightening bolt wouldn’t even kill someone in Naruto like Kakashi..
But we’re talking only speed ft’s atm.
EDIT: Haku one of the first enemies in Naruto is or relative to Lightspeed, which is faster than Kakashi at that time.