r/whowouldwin • u/einharjar009 • Jul 04 '22

Battle Upcoming Death Battle #164: Excalibur vs Raiden (Warframe vs Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance)

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R1: Hand to hand

R2: Basic weapons/abilities

R3: Both have all weapons/abilities

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '22

Copying what I said over at r/deathbattle: There is no way they won't do some yang vs Tifa type shit here. No way it's not just an ad and they make Excalibur win despite all odds saying otherwise. I am 100% sure on that. Also raiden vs genji is a way better matchup anyway.

Although I don't actually know too much on warframe so for all I know it could be legitimate win. Doubt it though.

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u/Lunar_Husk Jul 04 '22 edited Jul 04 '22

Ah yes, the double-edged sword. Excalibur and Warframe as a whole finally get some big-time again.

But no matter what happens, Excalibur loses.

Even if he wins for a legitimate reason (Which I think there is a few of), people know so little about Warframe that they'll just outright assume Raiden lost because it was a sponsored video.

So, no matter which way the dice lands, Excalibur will lose. Either popularity or the battle.

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u/NesMettaur Jul 04 '22

It doesn't help either that, by all accounts, it's a genuinely close match and they're nigh-even in stats. So even if Excalibur loses they'd be accused of highballing Excalibur just to make it seem fair.

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u/IMadeThisOn6-28-2015 ​ Jul 04 '22

it's a genuinely close match

Excalibur literally oustats Raiden to such an absurd degree its not even funny.

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u/Lunar_Husk Jul 04 '22

I'm just hoping to learn more about Excalibur's feats. In terms of starters he is the most balanced, but lorewise, other than probably one or two, he is the weakest in terms of his abilities.

Don't get me wrong all Warframes including Excalibur are powerful, and the argument can be made that he scales towards Atlas or Inaros due to him being able to go toe-to-toe with them despite their massive advantages. But I don't think DB will even consider it, if they do, people are just going to cry out that they are high-balling Excalibur (like they did with Raiden in some cases.)

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u/lies_like_slender ​ Jul 05 '22

I know about Atlas' meteor feat but what did Inaros do again?

Also do we know if the Operator is involved in the fight?

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u/Matgore99 Jul 05 '22

Inaros created a massive sandstorm that wiped out an entire infestation off of Mars. And since they are nanites, Inaros's sand storm wiped them out down to there.

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u/Lunar_Husk Jul 05 '22

Well, whether they make an appearance in battle is more of the question really. The Operator is always present when a Warframe is around, other than one singular case being Excalibur Umbra.

Though on the official DB website they do make mention of the Operator as an alternative mind to Excalibur. If they want Excalibur at his prime, they will have to take into account that the Operator can join the battle with Warframes.

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u/lies_like_slender ​ Jul 05 '22

In that case, Raiden can’t win this because of eternalism lmao

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u/Lunar_Husk Jul 05 '22

I think the way DB will consider a loss for Excalibur is if he is killed 3 times or x amount of times and can't revive.

The Operator may or may not join him in combat.

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u/Samakira Jul 06 '22

The thing is: they can revive more. It’s just a “ok, this isn’t working out, sending immediate extraction. Get up, and get out.”

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u/NesMettaur Jul 04 '22

You'd know better than me on that, admittedly.

I know about the Inaros scaling, laser deflecting, and how Excalibur's sword rending spacetime is more absolute than how high-frequency blades achieve the same effect; anything else to know about?

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u/Samakira Jul 04 '22

simulor and glaxion.

they fire a black hole, and absolute 0 beam, respectively.

warframes can survive both.

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u/Great-Peril Jul 10 '22

Could you please elaborate

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u/Lunar_Husk Jul 04 '22

Yeah, so no matter what it's not gonna end well for Excalibur.

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Heck, I'd actually argue that they've high-balled Raiden already cause I notice a few things from within MGRR where Raiden's feats don't match at all with what he is capable of doing.

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u/MARKSS0 Jul 04 '22

They are using umbra to wich pushed excal to be the superior one

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '22

Nah Raiden stomps Genji

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u/BobTheGodx Jul 04 '22

Raiden is much faster, stronger, and durable, so not really a better matchup.

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u/MARKSS0 Jul 04 '22

He isnt excal is more durrable has similar if not better speed He may just lack in raw strength unless you use umbra wich it seems they might

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u/BobTheGodx Jul 04 '22

I'm talking about Genji