r/wine Oct 29 '23

[Megathread] How much is my wine worth? Is it drinkable? Drink, hold or sell? How long to decant?

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We're expanding the scope of the megathread a bit... This is the place where you can ask if you yellow oxidized bottle of 1959 Montrachet you found in your grandma's cupboard above the space heater is going to pay your mortgage. Or whether to drink it, hold it o sell it. And if you're going to drink it, how long to decant it.


r/wine 3d ago

Free Talk Friday

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Bottle porn without notes, random musings, off topic stuff


r/wine 5h ago

I inherited (partly) my girlfriends french grandfather's wine cellar

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My girlfriend's grandfather sadly passed away and they asked if we wanted to take over part of the cellar. They weren't super into wine, but still the normal french amount of wine passion.

I think most of these are too old to drink, I'm hoping for a 1/5 ratio and I expect the sink will drink more Bordeaux than I will.

I don't really see anything I know, but it will still be a fun exploration as I'm not really used to drinking old wines.


r/wine 13h ago

This is not a drill! Matheson in Healdsburg does splashes of DRC for $150! Notes inside

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Was in Healdsburg for an event with some clients, stopped by Matheson which has a famous wine wall, offering splashes and glasses of top wines, including Opus One, Ridge Monte Bello, and Vérité. But the amazing one is they have DRC Grands-Echezeaux 2020 available.

Now, I know $150 is a stupid price for a splash, but the cheapest price for the bottle in the US is $3K and if the splash is 1 Oz, which is the preset on a Vinotemp, then thus values the bottle around $3,800, which means we're not really getting ripped off on the wine.

So I took the plunge!

Most tannic Pinot I've ever had.

This is obviously way too young, but you can already see brilliance here.

Perfumed nose with raspberry, strawberry, blueberry, orange rind, pomegranate, slight clove and cinnamon stick. Slight powdered cinnamon and cocoa on the nose.

Needs decades, but I can tell this will be brilliant. BH gave this a 96, which is an insanely high score for them.

92++ points


r/wine 10h ago

Self Spoiled Tonight

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r/wine 14h ago

Marcassin & Friends

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40 Upvotes

Some friends ended up at my place after a Napa-themed wine dinner in Santa Monica last night ( https://www.reddit.com/r/wine/s/zPDSbbd1SL ) I wanted to open some bottles I felt were in their drinking window as per my palate and that would be ready to enjoy without too much time in the decanter.

Pleased to say these are all very much in the zone. First time having a Marcassin and I think it’s a very well-balanced wine and would have blinded it for a great Burg instead of a California pinot due to the funk and savory notes. Lots of tertiary notes with the Tempier and the tannins are fully integrated. The Billy Fever opened up very nicely in the decanter and had a lovely combination of acidity, salinity, citrus, and a hint of buttery creaminess.


r/wine 12h ago

Red Blend I really enjoyed

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27 Upvotes

Gamin Minervois. 2023.
60% Syrah, 20% Grenache, 20% Carignan.
Domaine Cailhol Gautran. Languedoc region. Dark Cherry, deep ruby with hint of purple tint.
Medium body, full and very smooth round mouth feel. medium acidity, dry, medium to high tannins. Enjoyed for dinner with NY strip steak and salad. Great value will


r/wine 16h ago

Riesling time

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Keller’s entry level. Slight straw color. On the nose, clean aroma with citrus and grassy notes. Reminiscent of SB with a slightly heavier viscosity.

On the palate more of the same with some effervescence with some mid-palate note of jasmine and chamomile. Somewhat of a lingering finish as compared to the profile and decent balance.

This I my first Keller and TBH I was expecting more of an interesting profile. Good but hoped for more. I have a few more bottles that I will pop within the next few years to see if there is any development. I’ve had much better luck with J.J. Prum entry whites offering more unique flavor profiles.

Will still be enjoying this one today. Cheers


r/wine 14h ago

Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Tasting - West LA

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A smaller group of our west LA tasting crew got together last week to enjoy some fantastic white burgs (and a lovely Chambolle-Musigny red). The lineup was as follows:

  • Domaine de Montille Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Cailleret 2020
  • Xavier Monnot Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Les Folatières 2010
  • Etienne Sauzet Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru La Garenne 2020
  • Domaine Bernard Morey et Fils Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru La Truffière 2005
  • Vincent Girardin Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Les Combettes 2022
  • Domaine Arlaud Morey-St-Denis 1er Cru Les Millandes 2017
  • François Carillon Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Champ Gain 2022
  • Morey-Coffinet Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Les Pucelles 2023
  • Philippe Colin Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Les Demoiselles 2022
  • Ghislaine Barthod Chambolle-Musigny 1er Cru Les Veroilles 2022

There was a lot of love for the Etienne Sauzet, but we pretty much unanimously crowned the 05 Bernard Morey et Fils La Truffière WOTN. Beautifully smooth and still really expressive for having 20 years on it.


r/wine 16h ago

Napa, ABC Tasting - West LA

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15 of us from our SoCal tasting group met up last night to try Napa, Anything But Cabernet [Sauvignon] in Santa Monica, CA. It was fun to try some lesser-known varietals and explore the wide range of wines coming out of Napa. My favorites were the Kongsgaard Napa Valley Chardonnay (Montrachet style: malo, new oak, rich, buttery, med-plus acid, all in harmony) and the Koshu (mainly grown in Koshu Valley in Yamanashi Prefecture, Japan), which was floral, soft, fruity, and reminded me of honeysuckle and cherry blossom. Many people's wine of the night was the Keenan Cabernet Franc.

Partial lineup:

  • 2019 Matt Morris Wines Tofanelli Vineyard Charbono
  • 2022 Pahlmeyer Chardonnay
  • 2024 Kazumi Koshu
  • 2007 Robert Keenan Cabernet Franc
  • 2014 Farella Merlot
  • 2024 Realm The Bard Riverbound Edition Sauvignon blanc
  • 2019 Kongsgaard Syrah
  • 2022 Kongsgaard Chardonnay
  • 1978 Ridge York Creek Petite Sirah
  • 2018 Staglin Stagliano Sangiovese
  • 2024 Spottswoode Sauvignon Blanc
  • 2024 Bella Union Rose
  • 2023 Lot 507 Vermentino
  • 2018 Storybook Mountain Mayacamas Range Zinfandel

r/wine 13h ago

2022 Eyrie Vineyards Trousseau Dundee Hills OR

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22 Upvotes

2022 Eyrie Trousseau, 12.5% abv. From vines planted in 2012. This is the best American Trousseau I’ve had, Arnot-Roberts has been my benchmark for more than a decade, but this surpasses those.

Savory raspberries, rhubarb, with sage and rosemary and a long layered minerally finish. Just a gorgeous wine and a joy to drink.

I’ve had a few vintages of Sandlands trousseau, plus Arnot-Robert’s back to maybe 2010. Love those. But this, this is an another animal. I will be buying more!

I found this at the Grippy Tannins wine bar in Old Port, Portland Maine. She has a phenomenal selection of interesting wine, and sells wine to drink on site for $10 over retail. Such an awesome place. You should go.


r/wine 18h ago

2021 Kanonkop Pinotage

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44 Upvotes

Deep ruby. Strawberry leaf, blackcurrant, smoke, dried violets and something herbal like rosemary on the nose.

Palate is incredibly rich and generous: blackberry, morello cherry, dried redcurrants, cedar, tobacco leaf, more smoke, mocha, dried herbs. The finish is persistent.

This is a real testament to what Pinotage can be, which is a grape that I can be reticent to by default when scanning shelves. But I love to be proven wrong to expand my palate, learning, and love of wine.

£38, 94 points.


r/wine 2h ago

Does anyone know where I can buy this in Australia

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My friend bought this wine in Argentina and gave me a bottle of it, I like it a lot but I live in Australia and can't find it anywhere


r/wine 17m ago

Pickett Fire in Calistoga, CA

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Does anyone happen to know what properties are currently threatened by the Pickett fire? I have been googling from the east coast and can’t find the answer to this - all that pops up is 1 paywalled article from the SF Chronicle that I can’t read.


r/wine 4h ago

2021 Mahi 'Alchemy' Chardonnay Marlborough NZ

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r/wine 12h ago

2019 Rosset Terroir Vallée d'Aoste Petite Arvine

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5 Upvotes

Love just about anything I’ve had from the Valée d’Aoste region with crisp acidity from high altitude, cool climate terroir. Super fun everyday drinker with notes of grapefruit, limoncello, green apple and a backbone of minerality. Had an almost golden color (not the pale straw cited in the producer’s notes).


r/wine 17h ago

Your best Barolo for about 35 Euro? ;)

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r/wine 19h ago

2015 Barbaresco

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r/wine 5h ago

Petrus 1964 gone bad

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Is there any value to this ruined bottle?


r/wine 1d ago

Prospective from a Total Wine Salesperson

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I work in sales at a TW and follow this sub closely. I both love wine and of course see the mostly negative perspective of TW on the sub as well. I thought it might he helpful to add my honest perspective and hear others' thoughts.

Positives:

  • Low prices. Whether it's national brand or yellow tag, nothing is really ever overpriced. Is that 12 year Isle of Skye an amazing scotch or Ed Edmundo an amazing Cab? Of course not. Is it overpriced or bad for $23.99 and $11.99? Of course not.

  • Large selection. Again, it's a major retailer and for most popular regions you'll get a lot of classics and a wide selection.

  • Salespeople are almost always knowledgeable and passionate. One thing I've been happily impressed by is that all the other salespeople (I work with at least) have legitimate experience in wine and spirits, have good palates, and actually care about quality wine and spirits. Neither me or my coworkers recommend garbage or stuff we wouldn't drink ourselves, which I think it one of the biggest misconceptions of TW salespeople.

  • Salespeople want to create lasting relationships and provide customers with products they enjoy. In the corporate structure, TW does want salespeople to upsell, but in practice basically all salespeople I work with just want to help people get the best quality product in the customer's price range that they legitimately enjoy and recommend. I do understand how the focus on yellow tag skews this, but I'd much rather get a customer a nice $15.99 Burg Chardonnay on sale or a $34.99 Pouilly-Fuissé from a solid WD brand than have them pick up a case of Josh or Rombauer. I also honestly really do care about customers, making sure they like the wines I suggest, and having nice conversations and lasting relationships with them. Neither me or my coworkers care about wringing pennies out of customers.

  • Education. While the company obviously wants to push yellow tag, they have an internal wine and spirits education testing and certification system with bonus incentives that does help with general knowledge. They also subsidize outside education in wine and spirits. Like any business, the goal is to help salespeople sell more product, but from an objective prospective the educational programs and funding does help with knowledge of wine and spirits. We also do constant blind tastings of yellow tag products compared to national brands. Honestly, yellow tags regularly wine out. It's not always the case obviously, but most stuff like Meiomi, Josh, Prisoner, and La Marca are not good and the yellow tag stuff is actually better and staff notice it and refine their palates through these blind tastings and free samples.

Negatives:

  • Too much focus on yellow tag. I know I mentioned that it mostly isn't a big issue for salespeople, but it does seem to become obsessive and central to sales in the company. I get that the margins are better, but honestly in my opinion sales are sales. Yeah, okay, have us primarily focus on yellow tag, but don't set unachievable percentage targets to try to push every single yellow tag. Let me chat with some customers about stuff like Castello di Montsanto, Austin Hope, Whistlepig, and Lagavulin which are all solid bottles but not yellow tag so I have to draw them to other stuff. You're making money and customers don't want to be BS'ed.

  • Find a better way to pay and incentivize employees. At the end of the day, the pay and benefits aren't terrible for retail, but everyone is essentially treated as a retail employee. There's no commission, so why would a sales associate care whether they move a $100 of yellow tag or a $100 bottle of national brand? The difference doesn't affect their paycheck. Manager make more, but are still hourly and spend most of their time dealing with complaints from management or mundane merchandising tasks. They regularly get in early and leave late. The store has all the bones to motivate people for the positive reasons mentioned, but they provide few incentives to stay in terms of pay and work-life-balance.

  • Interesting selection. While TW does have a great selection in popular areas like wines from California and Bordeaux, as well as Bourbon, they rarely have anything truly interesting or exciting. On one hand, I get this. They're running a business and there aren't many people looking for a Jura Savagnin or Négrette from Roussillon. But on the other hand, as someone who loves wine, it sucks we rarely have one or two cool "unique" suggestions. I wish I had a Lagrein or Schiava to sell. I'd love a Gelber Muskateller from Austria. I want a Braucol from the SW of France, a still, dry Palomina Fino from Jerez, and a skin-contact Fiano from Australia. I know 90% of people just want a Cali Cab, Pinot, or Chardonnay from a heavily-marketed brand, but outside or an okay selection in Bordeaux, Burgundy, and Spain, we basically have little room to work with anything interesting or exciting.

Overall: These are just general thoughts from my end but I think it's useful for everyone. I like TW and overall think it's a fine place to work and shop. Honestly, I think the complaints could be easily resolved, but, hey, I'm not corporate. I'm in no way a TW stan and hope both employees and customers are critical of bad business practices. I also think that broad contempt of yellow tag wines and spirits are misguided. Sure, they're not all great but a lot of national brands legitimately bad. Most people work at TW because they enjoy and care about wine and spirits and want people to enjoy the products they enjoy for the price range the customer is looking for. If you are looking for Stag's Leap Cab and they suggest Courtney Benham Cab without any meaningful talking points aside from that it's fruit, smooth, and from California, yeah they're probably lacking in knowledge and just trying to flip. But honestly I'd rather drink Hall Ranch or Oak Ridge Cab for less and could talk about how they are more balanced and complex than SL. As with any store, always try to understand whether you are getting someone honestly providing information versus blind corporate speak.


r/wine 2h ago

Wine to gift

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I find this website that offer service to gift wine in Italy, actually I am based in UK.

Someone have experienced with this web site?


r/wine 14h ago

Young Person’s Wine Night Vol 3: Iberia (and a French imposter)

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For the third instalment of the “Young Person’s Wine Night” (see previous posts) we tried to accompany the wine with some more substantial food, as opposed to just snacks. We had just got back from a trip to Spain, Portugal, and France so we decided to go with Iberia as a (loose) theme. To round out the lineup, we did break the theme a little to include a white burgundy.

Wine list: 1. 2016 K5 Getariako Txakolina Kaiaren 2. 2018 Sylvain Langoureau Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru la Garenne 3. 2000 Urbina Rioja Selección
4. 2014 La Rioja Alta Rioja Gran Reserva Viña Arana 5. Fonseca Porto 20 Year Old Tawny Port

Accompanying menu was:

  • Lemon Stuffed Olives
  • Patatas Bravas
  • Espinacas con Garbanzos
  • Pintxos/Montaditos (Manchego and tomato or chèvre and caramelised onions, on baguette)
  • Veggie Paella
  • Basque Cheesecake

There was supposed to be Pastel de Nata as well but I forgot to get them.

Tasting notes in comments.


r/wine 1d ago

Carrasviñas Dorado, Bodegas Félix Lorenzo Cachazo, DO Rueda, Castillo y Leon, 🇪🇸 España

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In the heart of Castilla y León, about two hours northwest of Madrid, there’s a nearly forgotten tradition: Rueda Dorado. This is not the fresh, easy-drinking Verdejo you’ll find on every Spanish lousy “chiringuito”. It’s a historic style that dates back to the 17th and 18th centuries, kept alive as a niche survivor while young whites took over the market of people who wanted fresh and uncompromising fruit.

The grapes are the quintessential Spanish white grape Verdejo but in this case is married to the absolute superstar of the south: Palomino.

The secret is its oxidative aging. Dorado wines spend at least two years in glass “damajuanas” which are massive glass bottles, you’ve seen ‘em around surely, they’re left out in the hellish Spanish sun like I said for a couple of years! a radical process that concentrates the wine, exposes it to oxygen, and gives it that deep golden/amber color and nutty character. After that, it moves into oak barrels, often in a system similar to criaderas and soleras mostly known because of the Andalusian bodegas. The result: a dry wine at around 17% ABV or, as it feels in the glass, 17 volts straight to your palate.

Compared with the wines of Jerez (Cádiz), which often age first under flor before turning oxidative, Dorado wines skip that part because they never seek that yeasty, saline edge. Here the sun and oxygen run the show, producing a wine that’s drier, more austere, and less briny than a Fino or Manzanilla, closer in spirit to an Oloroso perhaps but with a distinctly “Castellano” toughness. Think of it as the rugged unemployed (maybe he drinks too much) cousin of the chic, vogue Andalusian sherry.

On the nose you get hazelnuts, walnuts, dried orange peel, and that unmistakable “grandma’s old wooden cabinet” aroma. On the palate it’s dry, powerful, long, and unapologetically oxidative, with a honey-like persistence that borders on eternal.

In Spain it sells for about 15 euros tops, no idea about the U.S. you’re more likely to pay double or even triple that? Still, it’s one of the cheapest ways to drink a piece of liquid history from good ol’ Castilla.


r/wine 13h ago

White wine recommendations for Paso Robles?

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Hello I’m in Paso Robles for 2 days and hoping to hit up 3-5 wineries while I’m there. Which wineries have the best white wines? I like Sauvignon blancs and Pinot Grigios! Thank you


r/wine 1h ago

Y'all think high quality wine will keep its value?

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Hi y'all,

do you think high quality wine will keep its current (monetary) value or even appreciate?

Asking as I see many surveys portraying the young generation as less alkohol-oriented as the older generations.

Meaning potentially less demand as buyers shift to non-alk alternatives (like 0,0 beer or alk-free wine) or even within alkoholic sphere shifting to longdrinks/cocktails.

Would be interested on your take on this topic!


r/wine 21h ago

Last bottle Keenan 2020 Cab blend

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Anyone have any thoughts on this offering? $24 sure seems like a deal but I’m guessing I’ll need to wait 5+ years, right?


r/wine 11h ago

Riesling winery in Wine County?

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Girlfriend visiting from Maryland and would like to visit a winery. She loves Riesling. Any winery recommendations that have Riesling as part of their wine tastings is appreciated. She’s also more into white wines. A nice view, activity, pairing locale would be nice too. TIA.