“Hackable voting machines”. Yes, electronics can be hacked, thank god that hasn’t happened. Oh wait, Russians did compromise our voter registrations in some states, but Trump will talk to him about that, right? This tweet didn’t come after the biggest meeting between them in “Russian Alaska”, right?
And make up your mind. One sentence you’re saying election fraud doesn’t exist, the next sentence you’re talking about how Russia wants to hack the machines??
1) Never said it didn’t exist, just said it was negligible unlike what Trump is spouting.
2) These aren’t contradictory statements. It’s just crazy how the one person who has been yelling about election fraud calls one of the biggest election interference investigations a “hoax”.
I’m not fear mongering about Russian interference, it’s why I hedged it by saying they got voter information. If you don’t think that’s a big deal because data brokers have all of our information, that’s up to you.
But I’m gonna ask you, what did Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos, and Rick Gates get jailed for? And who pardoned them?
Actually, they all got convicted for concealing evidence from the FBI involving communications with Russian agents and massive donations to pro-Russian leaders in Ukraine. Do you think the J6 committee was doing anything similar? Were they communicating with foreign nations to dig up evidence on political enemies?
No, they weren’t. That was Rudy Guliani who begged Ukraine for any and all dirt on the “Biden crime family”. I’m not sure what crimes you think they all did, but I’m all ears.
I’m sorry, Manafort wasn’t charged with lying about contact. He was indeed charged on tax fraud and witness tampering.
That’s cool, I agree. What happens when a political opponent is gung-ho about Facebook memes and prosecuting people for no other reason than “they’re mean to me”? If you were President, and there has been a campaign to smear your entire family for “Burisma” (that the original whistleblower said he lied about), would you not do the same?
We started this by saying “he’s just joking”, but he is literally reposting “truths” from @IHateTheDemocratParty and using all of these talking points in his speeches and executive orders. When is he not joking?
You claimed that Trump is just "joking" when he tweets. I paste a Trump tweet where he's talking about elections, something he very much believes are rigged and is threatening to get rid of mail-in ballots and voting machines because of said "election interference". We get into an argument over the validity of election interference, "Russia-gate" (which is why we were talking about pardons), and I think we both agree in the end that election interference is not a tide-turner in elections right now.
So why is the most powerful man in America, who has access to information from every major surveillance and investigative agency, still threatening to remove a valid and proven safe means of voting? I think it's because he is a megalomaniac, you think he's just trolling.
I don't like a president "joking" or "being sarcastic" about being a King. If you're fine with that, I don't know what to tell you.
Now, how would you feel about Trump deploying National Guard and the military to voting precincts across the United States? I think that's exactly where he's ramping to with the deployment in LA and DC right now (which he said he couldn't do for J6, I WILL keep stressing this). If he does that, what would you say about it then?
Also, you're still saying "hackable voting machines". I thought we agreed that election interference isn't really a thing?
Let me also ask you this. Was he joking when he sued ABC and Paramount for unfair coverage? Or when he put an executive order to sue law firms that represented his political opponents? Or when he deployed National Guard in DC, when they said he couldn’t for J6?
He is within his rights to do so as a US citizen. So why didn't he sue the law firms before he became President? Do you think maybe it's because attaching "President" to the name Donald Trump adds a little more weight to the pressure against the firms?
The man doesn't even take a paycheck for being president lmao.
I mean, he DOES have at least three meme coins, his Trump bible, the Trump phone, selling pieces of his suits, $1B campaign donations from oil execs, the list goes on. I'm sure he's grifting off of MAGA and I think you agree. We just don't agree on the severity of it all. If Biden had done anything similar like his lawyers writing memos on how to invalidate elections, using executive orders to sue law firms, deploying National Guard and Marines to red districts and cities, everyone would rightfully call him a megalomaniac bordering on authoritarian, if not an outright dictator.
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u/StormsOfMordor 20d ago
You know election fraud is not even .001% of votes, right? Here’s the Brookings Institute dissecting the Heritage Foundation’s numbers for election fraud.
“Hackable voting machines”. Yes, electronics can be hacked, thank god that hasn’t happened. Oh wait, Russians did compromise our voter registrations in some states, but Trump will talk to him about that, right? This tweet didn’t come after the biggest meeting between them in “Russian Alaska”, right?