I’m not fear mongering about Russian interference, it’s why I hedged it by saying they got voter information. If you don’t think that’s a big deal because data brokers have all of our information, that’s up to you.
But I’m gonna ask you, what did Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos, and Rick Gates get jailed for? And who pardoned them?
Actually, they all got convicted for concealing evidence from the FBI involving communications with Russian agents and massive donations to pro-Russian leaders in Ukraine. Do you think the J6 committee was doing anything similar? Were they communicating with foreign nations to dig up evidence on political enemies?
No, they weren’t. That was Rudy Guliani who begged Ukraine for any and all dirt on the “Biden crime family”. I’m not sure what crimes you think they all did, but I’m all ears.
I’m sorry, Manafort wasn’t charged with lying about contact. He was indeed charged on tax fraud and witness tampering.
That’s cool, I agree. What happens when a political opponent is gung-ho about Facebook memes and prosecuting people for no other reason than “they’re mean to me”? If you were President, and there has been a campaign to smear your entire family for “Burisma” (that the original whistleblower said he lied about), would you not do the same?
We started this by saying “he’s just joking”, but he is literally reposting “truths” from @IHateTheDemocratParty and using all of these talking points in his speeches and executive orders. When is he not joking?
You claimed that Trump is just "joking" when he tweets. I paste a Trump tweet where he's talking about elections, something he very much believes are rigged and is threatening to get rid of mail-in ballots and voting machines because of said "election interference". We get into an argument over the validity of election interference, "Russia-gate" (which is why we were talking about pardons), and I think we both agree in the end that election interference is not a tide-turner in elections right now.
So why is the most powerful man in America, who has access to information from every major surveillance and investigative agency, still threatening to remove a valid and proven safe means of voting? I think it's because he is a megalomaniac, you think he's just trolling.
I don't like a president "joking" or "being sarcastic" about being a King. If you're fine with that, I don't know what to tell you.
Now, how would you feel about Trump deploying National Guard and the military to voting precincts across the United States? I think that's exactly where he's ramping to with the deployment in LA and DC right now (which he said he couldn't do for J6, I WILL keep stressing this). If he does that, what would you say about it then?
Also, you're still saying "hackable voting machines". I thought we agreed that election interference isn't really a thing?
Then we'll drop the king and I'll label him as a megalomaniac, does that make you feel better? It's called a hypothetical for a reason, and where did I defend it? I said Trump was a creep too, you brought up Biden being a creep first.
And when I say "election interference isn't really a thing", I'd figure you'd pick up on the fact that I'm saying it's negligible with that "really" there. I can't expect anything else when you give talking points that aren't even true lmao
Edit - Honestly, I don't want this chain to stop, I'm having fun now, I wanna poke at your beliefs on this administration. What do you think of J6?
Let me also ask you this. Was he joking when he sued ABC and Paramount for unfair coverage? Or when he put an executive order to sue law firms that represented his political opponents? Or when he deployed National Guard in DC, when they said he couldn’t for J6?
He is within his rights to do so as a US citizen. So why didn't he sue the law firms before he became President? Do you think maybe it's because attaching "President" to the name Donald Trump adds a little more weight to the pressure against the firms?
The man doesn't even take a paycheck for being president lmao.
I mean, he DOES have at least three meme coins, his Trump bible, the Trump phone, selling pieces of his suits, $1B campaign donations from oil execs, the list goes on. I'm sure he's grifting off of MAGA and I think you agree. We just don't agree on the severity of it all. If Biden had done anything similar like his lawyers writing memos on how to invalidate elections, using executive orders to sue law firms, deploying National Guard and Marines to red districts and cities, everyone would rightfully call him a megalomaniac bordering on authoritarian, if not an outright dictator.
Biden covered up crimes for his family and friends all the time. Including his son literally soliciting bribes in return for favors once his dad became president, and being recorded talking about giving kick backs to “the big guy.”
His own daughter wrote about how he would make her shower with him and how it made her uncomfortable.
And Trump said he would date Ivanka if she wasn't his daughter, said she was a "piece of ass", reportedly snuck into teen pageant dressing rooms, and a book came out that Trump allows people in the White House to sexualize Ivanka. Why do you think she's no longer in the news with him?
He even threatened to send the national guard and f-16s to the Texas/Mexico border to stop their border patrol agents from preventing people from crossing our border illegally..
Bro, you are literally just regurgitating talking points you see online. Donald Trump shares this type of shit on his Truth Social account, but I thought he was only joking? Why are you spouting these to me as if they're true?
-4
u/[deleted] 20d ago edited 20d ago
[removed] — view removed comment