Back when he was the owner of Marvel, Perelman noticed that Miller's Daredevil was their best seller, took a quick look at the comic, concluded the reason why it was a great seller was Elektra, and ordered everyone to start adding sexy white ninjas to their comics.
Any resemblance between Perelman and Mojo is entirely 100% intentional:
Duck was obviously joking, but I don’t think that that means post ‘89 mojos couldn’t be designed to look like Perelman. How many Patrick Steward prof X’s do we have?
Seriously? We are spoiled for choice now with fat bald guys. Perelman didn't care about Marvel in 85 as he was busy doing Revlon or some other company at the time. It was around 4-5 years later that he picked up Marvel. Mojo is obviously based upon Hollywood types that didn't care about artistic things and couldn't stop picking or changing things.. a trope that is a trope because it's real and still happens. It also happens that Perelman and a lot of other money people also have the same look.. It's amusing but not true.
Mojo appeared 4-5 years before Perelman had any interest or probably even knew about Marvel. Also he was created by Art Adams so not sure how Lee fits into it.
If you weren't aware he first showed up in Longshot 5.
Yup. But as... exactly as I said, Jim Lee's depiction during his run on x-men (for example, the infamous shattershot crossover), quite resembles perelman as presented in the provided wiki link.
If that doesn't complete the mental circuit, Jim Lee would've worked under perelman, and so he had ample opportunity to observe him and use his likeness. You see, artists both like to draw (literally) from what they're familiar with, and enjoy lambasting figures of authority.
What do you think Perelman did at Marvel other than raid it when they were hurting and leverage it beyond it's worth?
Also.. what did lee change from the original version? Gave him a clearer face? Lee didn't create him, nor really impact his look so I'm really not sure how we got here let alone debating it like it was Lee's creation designed to slight someone that hadn't really impacted Marvel until 94 (two years after Lee left to go do Image). Unless you have something from Lee himself saying that he tweaked the character's image (again please show what he changed exactly..) it's just sadly not true. Would be amusing had it been true but the timing is all way off. Might as well say that Lee based his Wolverine off of Clint Eastwood even though the character had been well established and the look didn't change much at all.
I'm looking back and forth from Adam's version, Lee's version, and that image, and I see a resemblance. Maybe this is my face blindness at play and I'm just filling in blanks that aren't there, but that's literally all I'm saying. I see a resemblance and that amuses me. I'm not speculating about anyone's motivations beyond "the boss is always a valid target for ridicule." If Claremont had still been on the book I'd be willing to speculate about intentional bear-baiting, but nicieza came out of the ad dept iirc and he always knew where his bread was buttered and had a lot of clear respect for his peers and co-workers.
Anecdotally, I've heard nobody on the creator's floor liked perelman from day one, but indeed, there's very little on the record that I know of, so who knows?
To be fair and clear, I also see the resemblance and it is amusing knowing what we know now about him and how he treated Marvel. It just is more that Perelman fit the bald money narcissist then intentionally done. We could apply it to Bezos at this point as well, and it's also amusing.
Thank you for the engaging convo. I really appreciate our being able to disagree without it devolving into name calling or bashing each other. I may not agree with you but I do respect your views. Just wanted to mention that as I'm finding it rarer and rarer of late.
sooooo? Not sure what you're trying to say as Mojo hasn't changed much at all since he first appeared.. 2-3 years before Jim Lee did any work for Marvel so I'm really not sure where you're going with this. If you're trying to say that Jim Lee using the same design in his head thought it was Perelman... sure? I mean it's the same character with the same look but if that's the bar you have so be it.
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u/Ducklinsenmayer Apr 28 '25
It's probably not meant to be.
Back when he was the owner of Marvel, Perelman noticed that Miller's Daredevil was their best seller, took a quick look at the comic, concluded the reason why it was a great seller was Elektra, and ordered everyone to start adding sexy white ninjas to their comics.
Any resemblance between Perelman and Mojo is entirely 100% intentional:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Perelman
So, at least according to the story, Betsy's outfit is meant to look ridiculous.