r/xmen • u/AngelEyes360 Askani • 6d ago
Weekly Discussion X-Men Comics New Releases for September 3, 2025
- SHADOWS OF THE KING AND THE ASTRAL PLANE! Has Hisako been saved?! A climactic battle between Armor and Shadow King in the Astral Plane! But what secrets does Kageyama still hold? And what of the Children of the Atom's dependence on his power?
- The two baddest brawlers of the Louisiana X-Men buddy up to go undercover in faraway Argentina... to chase and destroy a legendary X-villain! Two-fisted fury as only WOLVERINE and RANSOM can bring it, and it's a rough, roaring ride for anyone who gets in their way!
- DON LOGAN GETS AN OFFER HE CAN'T REFUSE! WOLVERINE — the head of an organized crime family?! Not a hoax, not an imaginary tale — LOGAN takes the mantle, but who's after his head?
- THE DRAGON SLAYER! How did Magik wind up defending one of her newest and most loathsome foes? And can she save him from a literal dragon?
- DEATH STALKS THE KINNEY SISTERS! GABBY KINNEY has a sickness even her healing factor can't cope with. WOLVERINE searches the catacombs of Paris for the cure, but will XARUS seal Gabby's fate? Guest-starring: CLEA STRANGE!
- FROM THE PAGES OF IMPERIAL! A coup at home has imperiled Shi'ar Majestrix Xandra, tearing her from the throne. Her only hope for survival lies in a mismatched group of renegades led by her father, Professor Charles Xavier, and her resurrected mother, Lilandra! But when faced with the awesome power of the Shi'ar Imperial Guard, the only way to survive... is to run!
Unlimited and Other Releases 09/03
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u/AngelEyes360 Askani 6d ago
Wolverine #13
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u/wowlock_taylan 6d ago
Don Logan. Short-lived but fun. Having a mafia family in your debt might come in handy or it can make things more complicated.
Also, they are lucky they didn't hurt Logan TOO much because he can go 'berserk' in that point and lose all sense.
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u/PatWasRight_F_CHUGS 2h ago
Ok issue. I liked that it started in Louisiana, showing the connection with Uncanny, and the brief appearance of Kurt. Logan getting to have that talk with him would have been a much more impactful, memorable issue. Logan is a timeless, beloved character in part due to how malleable he is with how many stories/settings he can fit into. But this was just a random issue to fill the last spot before Age of Revelation which didn't really have much to say or future story to leave us with (the Wolverine AOR book with the return of the Wendigo from the opening arc being something I am looking forward to mind after how much I loved that story).
Coccolo's art continued to look stunning, with Logan's quarter-melted face being sick to look at.
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u/AngelEyes360 Askani 6d ago
Magik #9
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u/cmcdonald22 Multiple Man 6d ago
I've done the whole Ashley Allen gets it gushing to death, so fresh different compliments.
Allen's fight choreography and conflict inventiveness have felt really good in the second half of this series. She's definitely having fun with portals, and if Midnight Sun's the video game has taught us anything, it's the Magik fighting IS about having fun with portals.
The art was really solid. It's got style, it's effective visual communication.
If this book doesn't get a relaunch I just have no faith in the competency of Marvel.
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u/gamesrgreat Magik 6d ago
The dragon kill move was sick tbh. Carve it up and leave your sword in the dragon, use ice magic to freeze the dragon, then summon your sword to your hand like it’s mjolnir, shattering the frozen dragon!
If only this was a video game lol
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u/gamesrgreat Magik 6d ago
Definitely one of the better issues. Cool action in the first half and good showing up Liminal and the bad guy. The backstory was not bad. Some of the fights around how Illyana is getting captured or running are kind of…? Like I guess we are supposed to think Illyana and Dani can’t beat the two henchman and the Embodiment? (terrible villain name btw.) I am pretty annoyed tho at this astral magic shit that keeps cutting off access to Illyana’s soul sword…it’s a sword made from her soul it shouldn’t just be getting deactivated all the time bc that’s a convenient way to make her weaker…
The ending with them fighting their way through so many floors and artifacts etc is pretty cool but them running didn’t make sense to me tbh. Like they barge in to get the heart but nvm we can’t 3v3 them?
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u/InsideTheFunhouse 6d ago
I’m guessing that saving Cal by first getting him out of there might be Illyana’s first priority (as it should be), and fighting takes second place. I’m eager to see how this plays out in the next issue.
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u/Jasonl7976 6d ago
It say something like to be concluded on the last page. So guess next issue is the last. If their smart they will relaunch it in 2026
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u/InsideTheFunhouse 6d ago
Another great issue, not surprisingly.
The revelation that Dani has been working with Embodiment since before Krakoa is interesting, and provided some good dialogue between the two. The discussion about leadership styles between those two and Illyana was another highlight, as was Embodiment’s back story (I agree with the earlier comment that her name is a bit awkward, though).
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u/wowlock_taylan 6d ago
To be concluded? Don't tell me they are ending the book already? I swear to god...
Yea, the society was bad news from the beginning. Led by this broken woman who thinks she knows best for everyone. Precogs, always so self-assured. I bet Destiny would just look at her and go 'amateur'. I call bs on her predicting Krakoa's fall. If she was so 'good' with her power, she would never have invited Dani and Illyana in, knowing it would be her downfall.
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u/abusedporpoise 6d ago
did you miss all the news about every book being halted in favor of the multi-month long event?
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u/wowlock_taylan 6d ago
I know that but that is should be a 'future' event that shouldn't really effect that ongoing books. Problem is whether certain books will continue after the event.
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u/Jasonl7976 6d ago
Not sure if I would call it precog. I think it more like the ability to read body movements and use them to predict the opp next action.
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u/wowlock_taylan 6d ago
That wouldn't make sense though since she says 'I am sorry I didn't tell you about Krakoa' etc, meaning he can 'see the future' after whatever the machine has done to her. Unless she decided to go to Krakoa and decided to fight it hand to hand, that doesn't work.
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u/Jasonl7976 6d ago
Oh okay. Wait now that I think about it. Wait it seem like Dani join before Krakoa? Hmm the timing seem off and didn’t Dani mention in a prev issue she join after Krakoa fall?
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u/swoozes 6d ago
Dani didn't join before the fall of Krakoa. Embodiment is telling Dani that she could have warned before Krakoa fell.
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u/InsideTheFunhouse 5d ago
Embodiment tells Dani: “That’s why I didn’t warn you in advance about Krakoa.”
Maybe it’s ambiguous, but it reads to me that this means Dani joined the Order before Krakoa was opened to mutantkind. That’s how I read it.
Unless Embodiment means “mutantkind” when she says “you.”
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u/cyclopswashalfright Moonstar 6d ago
Good issue. Horak's art for the flashbacks is really nice, I hope he gets more X-Men.
Embodiment is a bad name for a villain, but she's a pretty interesting character.
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u/Jasonl7976 6d ago
Good read. Cal personality is resurfacing but is that one of Liminal trick? Huh so the leader of Society is a precognitive mutant.
Can’t wait to see them escape but how their gonna solve Liminal issue?
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u/Fickle_Ad8735 6d ago edited 6d ago
so this book is indeed ending next issue or?
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u/antsinmyeyesmauger Nightcrawler 6d ago
At minimum the volume is ending. A nice and shiny new #1 in January would not be surprising but with Ashley Allen not doing anything for AoR maybe she's out of the office.
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u/InsideTheFunhouse 6d ago
Allen wrote a section of the new issue of Doctor Strange, which is also out today. Specifically, it’s a few pages featuring Illyana. This gives me hope that Allen is going to continue writing Magik in some form after Age of Revelation.
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u/Furaha1212 6d ago
It is not known yet.
From October every book is on hold because of the AoR event and after that some continue, some not. Honestly I don't think we will know it regarding Magik for some time yet because in her case it could spoil things (like the consequences of her semi-kind-of death in the next X-Men issue and maybe the upcoming Sorcerer Supreme event where she could end up as the next Sorcerer Supreme. It would be pretty lame if they would announce it now that for example Magik continues in January as Magik: Sorcerer Supreme (if she end up becoming the next one) when the event which decides it only launch in November or December.
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u/Jasonl7976 6d ago
Why they have to run? Can’t Magik use her mutant disk to escape?
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u/InsideTheFunhouse 6d ago
I thought about this. At first, I thought they still needed to get Cal’s heart back. But on a reread I realized Liminal takes it back (it’s a subtle detail in the art, and easy to miss).
My second thought is that they may need to stick around the Society’s headquarters to figure out how to free Cal from Limnal.
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u/PatWasRight_F_CHUGS 2h ago
Mixed bag of an issue. I was loving this series, one of my easy favorites from FTA but, maybe it's an editorial/Age of Revelation problem with the book needing to be rushed to its conclusion, I feel this Embodiment arc has been a big step back.
Liminal was an awesome villain for Illyana and how he was brought in & those parallels revealed was such effective work. The Embodiment's flashback & motivation explanation her is on the opposite end of the villain introductions/backstory spectrum. Her going into this long monologue in front of everyone plainly telling us who she is, where she came from and what drives her was such a dull way of doing it and ground the issue to a dead halt (after what had been a really fun action sequence and Illyana & Dani banter in the first half). Sometimes I feel that the X-Office nowadays needs a gentle reminder that not every single thing has to be about Mutants in the X-Men's world - I have loved how this series, for instance, has focused on Illyana as a sorceress but this issue went against that with revealing the Embodiment to be a Mutant when she really didn't need to be. Writing clairvoyants can be tricky but how easily they tricked the Embodiment here with Liminal felt lazy too.
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u/AngelEyes360 Askani 6d ago
Uncanny X-Men #20
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u/cmcdonald22 Multiple Man 6d ago
This issue hilights one of the differences between a good artist and a great artist. Vecchio has been doing a GOOD job filling in, they're a GOOD artist.
But Marquez would have NEVER let all of the X-men sit down for breakfast in their fully dressed super hero outfits. They would be wearing comfortable every day clothes for a scene about being a comfortable family in their every day routines, thats part of what makes him a GREAT artist.
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u/cmcdonald22 Multiple Man 6d ago
Also, AGE UPDATE:
Ransom being 17 is the firmest age he's been given yet, last year 'the oldest was just shy of 17' so either Wolverine is being a bit unofficial here (which historically he often is) or Ransom had a birthday. But either way this confirms Ransom as the oldest Outlier at 17. Jitter 16(Uncanny #10 according to Jubilee), Deathdream 15(Uncanny #10 according to Jubilee), Calico the only one without an age currently.
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u/TheWolfmanZ 2d ago
Calico should be 16 too I think
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u/cmcdonald22 Multiple Man 2d ago
She's probably meant to be that age, but so far there hasn't been a specific reference that I have noted.
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u/cyclopswashalfright Moonstar 6d ago
Good issue.
I'll get my main criticism out of the way: Ellis is an odd character and I think she changes each time we see her. I don't think she's very consistent and I think this issue just compounds the problem.
The good? Almost everything else.
I liked the focus on narration. It felt like a densely packed issue. I can't help but compare it to X-Men, where we just finished a two-parter that didn't really move the characters along at all, except maybe for Jen? Here, we get something for Rogue, we get something for Jitter, we get a little peak at the life Nightcrawler is enjoying, Jubilee. Gambit gets a good moment, Wolverine and Ransom take up the bulk of the issue and Ransom gets some much needed focus. And we learn a lot about him, he's really just a wounded kid who sometimes doesn't even want to be alive, and his whole tough, angry visage is just a way to cover that up. It's not ground breaking new stuff, but it is effective.
I think the big strength of the book is that Rogue is such a good anchor character and Gail understands that her place in the team and her relationship with everyone needs to be clearly defined. She's a motherly figure to the Outliers and a teacher. She's got a sisterly bond to Wolverine, Nightcrawler, and Jubilee. She's a wife to Gambit. How she sees the team is very clearly defined, and how they see her is well understood. So when she narrates and looks at each character and tells us about each character, it really works, we learn something. It helps progress those characters, even in small ways, like this issue.
And not to punch at X-Men more, but I think that's one of the huge issues X-Men has going on. I don't know what Cyclops' role in the story and in the team is supposed to be. "It's not that kind of team" and maybe at first it isn't. There's a strong focus on it being a strikeforce for the first 6-7 issues until Raid happens. But after that it all unravels and I'm left with a dynamic I'm really confused by and a place in the story that doesn't feel logical. Like, we get a lot about how Scott feels isolated and besieged. But... why? He's on a team with Hank, a Hank who doesn't have any of the baggage of the last decade (in universe time), a Hank who knew him at his best and basically only remembers the good times. He's got Magik, who is half little sister to him at this point. Juggernaut is reformed and warmer now, Psylocke doesn't kick up a fuss, Quinten is just annoying, he's not malicious. Only Idie has really challenged him and even then, it's in small ways, he wants to make it up to her. The ONE agent assigned to put pressure on him is revealed to kind of be understanding and not a crazed bigot. The Avengers and the X-Men are friends now, they come over for dinner and baseball, they let the X-Men on their super secret city ship. 3K pops up so sporadically that it isn't really as active as a problem as it should be. His wife is on speed dial and can apparently come to Earth whenever she wants really, and even if she couldn't, Fall of X was full of psychic mind talks and sex. Rogue and him are on good terms now. What is the problem here? What makes Cyclops so sad and so desperate that he's willing to ignore the red flags and let Revelation into his team?
I don't know, it's frustrating. Gail's experience as a writer and her experience on team books really shows, whereas with Jed I just don't know what his priorities are.
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u/cmcdonald22 Multiple Man 6d ago
I was talking with B4D about it, but now that I've read avengers, I've read doctor strange, and basically all of the other big Jed books, one thing that stands out is, two of his worse books are Avengers and X-men, so either its just been a rough two years or much more likely, he is struggling with team books, specifically big franchise mainline team books.
All of his bangers, Moon Knight, Doctor Strange and Black Cat, are single or duo protagonists with a mix of established and original supporting characters that he can flesh out and do a lot of things with, and in those books he's very good at balancing the focus on developing the main characters but giving moments or whole issues to the supporting cast at times. And even outside of the character stuff, they're just narratively structured way better. Doctor Strange is basically a really smooth 3 book start to finish journey. Where as Avengers and X-men started with these premises and just feel like they forgot about them at times and go back to them as 'oh yeah' after thoughts.
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u/cyclopswashalfright Moonstar 6d ago
I think team books trip him up. He's still pretty new to Marvel overall, not Ashley Allen new, but he isn't a seasoned veteran. He's put on increasingly big titles at the same time as his other commitments, and he hasn't had a chance to hone his skills on a smaller scale team book before taking on a big one. He really should have been given a chance to do 50 issues of Avengers first, before doing X-Men. And before Avengers he should have been given a chance to do his Alpha Flight mini he always wanted to do. He said himself in the Nova interview, he finds solo books much easier to write.
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u/cmcdonald22 Multiple Man 6d ago
Yeah it shows unfortunately.
It's a bummer because in a lot of ways he's perfect for the X-men on paper. He's one of the best writers at Marvel today about being a fan of both old continuity and modern continuity and making books that can often feel like they're isolated in a bubble, be a part of the larger connected history of Marvel. His Doctor Strange in particular does that specific thing fantastically, hell even going so far as to be one of the few books that made Krakoa feel expansive and included rather than isolated. And even the Avengers are including the X-men but... Some how his actual. X-men book exists in a messy stadnant isolated puddle, even from the OTHER X books let alone the larger Marvel U.
I'm actually more optimistic for his Nova stuff now, but even less convinced X-men is gonna get better.
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u/cyclopswashalfright Moonstar 6d ago
The Nova stuff sounds like it speaks to his personal interests, being a Miami Vice fan.
I heard he might be leaving Avengers this year, in which case, maybe he can dedicate more effort and time to X-Men, but I think fundamentally team books just aren't how main strength. Maybe if he was handling a much smaller cast?
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u/cmcdonald22 Multiple Man 6d ago
Moon Knight is mainly MK, with a dash of Tigra or Hunters Moon some times as like side kick co star vibe, then Reese Soldier 8-Ball and the Therapist as supporting cast who get varying degrees of spotlight, but who have all had at least one issue of their own at this point.
Doctor Strange is, Steven, Then Clea, Then Steven and Cleo as main characters across the 3 titles, with Wong and agetns of WAND and Bats the dog, and basically the same thing. Wong and WAND carry multiple issues.
Black Cat is almost entirely Felicia, but he does give her some people to bounce off of, Dead of Doctor Strange Spider-man has Ben and Felicia teaming up and I think that issue is fantastic.
So.. it's weird, IN THEORY, Moon Knight is a 6-ish character book, but the balance is just very clear, there are leads to focus on, and supports to support. And when those parameters are clear, he seems to do really well. And, generally that's kind of how good team books work too. Like, Claremont is a Storm and Wolverine/Cyclops book, with the others getting rotating spotlights. I think having a small focus would probably help him tremendously, like arguably that's what Uncanny is doing too right? It's the Rogue/Gambit show sometimes you sub one of them out for Kurt/Logan/Jubilee, then you build up the kids in the background. But also ultimately, Jed has to get his plotting and pacing tighter.
Focusing on the characters would be nice, but as you said and we've talked about, this book, and his avengers for a while, both had this problem of nothing moving forward.
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u/cyclopswashalfright Moonstar 6d ago
Right, I think he needs to pick a lead, build the story around how they see things, and have the others as key supporting players. It's not exactly a new formula, not even for X-Men. I feel like he's applying the lessons from Avengers incorrectly, which requires you to share the spotlight between all the characters.
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u/cmcdonald22 Multiple Man 5d ago edited 5d ago
It wasn't as bad as events like Bloodhunt or One World Under Doom. For these two 'world changing' events there's probably been like 2 books total to utilize the changes the events have brought in any kind of relevant way.
But yeah, we didn't have like Aunt May lamenting that all that medicine from Krakoa was hard to get and Spider-Man trying to lecture Emma on responsibility or something. If it wasn't in a Hell fire gala, which is still firmly in the x bubble of things or written by a writer who was working on Krakoa like Duggen's iron man, it didn't seem to change any non mutants lives in meaningful ways.
None of the Avengers were like 'wow it's depressing and weird that every other nation in the world suddenly doesn't have any of our mutant friends living there and now they live on an island we need special permission to visit'.
Besides the Urich plot line in X-men we didn't see Journalists or influential figures like JJJ having opinions on ethnostates, secret Ressurection etc.
For reference and example, The Doctor Strange stuff comes from Clea talking about Mysterium, and Steven telling Jean to her face that Clea is not at all pleased with Mutants because of the introduction of it. To paraphrase 'you introduced an element to the world that's primary and exclusive use is to negate and kill magic, and you sell it for profit. It's essentially the magical equivalent of becoming the primary contracted manufacturer and distributor of Sentinels'.
And I mean obviously the scene doesn't change Jeans mind and she doesn't go back to Krakoa and do anything, but it's still a great scene because outside of the X bubble people SHOULD have opinions about these things. The magic community SHOULD have opinions about Mysterium and Krakoa and all of that.
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u/lepton_neutrino 4d ago
Mary Jane became a spokesmodel for the Krakoan drugs after her Aunt Anna took them. Later, Anna suffered the derangement effect.
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u/Chechucristo 6d ago
I think the biggest problem for X-Men is just that Jed wanted to do a Cyclops book, and everything else is barely put together with silly string. The book is good, but its weaknesses are too obvious and too frequent.
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u/Guidenmofer Cyclops 6d ago
Sure, Jed wanted to make a Cyclops book that’s why Cyclops has no storyline, character arc, development, etc in the run, sure.
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u/Linnus42 5d ago
I think Jed likes to build teams like he is playing an RPG.
Which is to say he builds it around the Leader (MC) and thinks of characters in terms of Rolls.
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u/cyclopswashalfright Moonstar 5d ago
That would be a logical way to do things, the problem is that I don't think he does that, and if he is, he isn't doing it well.
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u/Linnus42 5d ago
Eh I see the Elements. Cause I kinda think of Hero Teams that way myself.
X-men Team Roles: Leader, Tank, Assassin, Caster, Energy Manipulator, Psychic, Tech Expert
Jed's Team: Cyclops, Juggernaut, Psylocke, Magik, Idie, Quire, Beast
Team selection aint really the issue...its like a GM/DM who wants to include too many NPCs ie all the side characters. He aint doing a good job juggling the focus.
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u/cyclopswashalfright Moonstar 5d ago
I don't think the problem has ever been who he has chosen for the team (well, some picks are a little uninspired) it's more the fact that he can't progress his stories in a timely manner or choose who or what to focus on.
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u/Linnus42 5d ago
Yeah I cannot imagine the constant events help or him being overstretched comic wise.
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u/MP-Lily Kid Omega 6d ago edited 5d ago
Yeah, there’s a lot of things that seem to be a factor. Adjectiveless has some serious pacing issues. Every issue feels like it moves way too quickly, but the plot progression is near glacial- I mean, how many days have even passed in-universe?? Every big step in the plot’s needed two issues so far!! And I’d wager that’s got something to do with just how many pieces in play there are.
The core team is eight people, plus two recruits and two supporting members for a total of twelve team members. That’s already a lot to juggle. And then we have the 4 heads of 3K, 3K’s new miniboss squad, the Upstarts, Sugar Man, the ONE agent, Ellis and Scurvy, and Robin and her twin. Also guest appearances from a new Hellions team, and Alpha Flight, and Corsair, and those alien guys. We had two “event” crossovers- Raid on Greymalkin with the Uncanny team, and X-Manhunt with the Uncanny team and Storm and X-Factor. Oh, and two smaller crossovers with the Avengers. And Age of Revelation on the horizon. That’s a LOT to keep track of, and a lot to balance.
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u/cmcdonald22 Multiple Man 6d ago
Yeah it's certainly not as simple as one thing, but some things seem to stem from others. Uncanny is a book of, 9 regular characters, and Gail still just manages to take a single issue and move 4 or more plots forward in a single issue, while Jed is spinning wheels taking 3 issues to move one plot forward sometimes.
Too many characters.
Too many plots.
Too many cross overs/events.
And just... Not the particular skill set developed to successfully navigate that type of book.
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u/Linnus42 5d ago
Yeah Gail seems to have hit her stride for juggling characters and plots. I think Uncanny is the 2nd best book in the From the ashes era. Behind only Magik.
Good to see Monet before age of revelation.
Ransom arc should intrigue though I do hope Gail Leans more into the gravity aspect of his powers. Being Wolvetines young protege tends to be a good career move.
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u/unlucky-lizards Gambit 6d ago
The bit with Monet was interesting. She seems to be more than capable of resisting the collars and confronting the guards. It’s nice to see someone push against Ellis, even if it feels like Monet should be able to do more. Hopefully she has reasons to stay, and we’ll see more actions taken against the prison.
I was dreading the Graymalkin portion of the plot, but I didn’t hate it this time. It’s still hard to buy how much they can get away with, but I found the entire convo interesting.
The family stuff was cute as always. Rogue reflecting on how everyone seems to have found some happiness makes me a little sad AoR is so close, haha.
And now, Ransom. We finally got some narration from his PoV, which is nice. The little flashback about his kidnapping was especially rough, no wonder he doesn’t seem to like his family. Good thing he found himself a new one. I’m excited to see him confront his father.
I actually really liked the pacing of this issue. We got some fun character work and advanced different stories.
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u/TheWolfmanZ 5d ago
I hope Ransom learns to ask for help though. He seems so focused on trying to be a leader for the Outliers that he neglects his own trauma
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u/unlucky-lizards Gambit 5d ago
Same here, and hopefully this is the direction the story is taking. Despite his reluctance he seemed more willing to listen to Gambit’s advice and let Wolverine follow him toward the end, so we might be on the right track. It seems the second issue will dig deeper into his past and traumas, too.
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u/amendmentforone 6d ago
Solid issue. Finally some Monet, and Graymalkin for that matter. Like it felt like we were going to finally resolve the prison plot line ... only "to kick the can down the road" in favor of "Age of Revelation."
Ransom has been a solid character - and I've enjoyed his big brother relationship with Deathdream - but the whole neglected by his rich (and evil) father is pretty much the same story as his cousin Sunspot's.
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u/lepton_neutrino 5d ago
Sunspot had a good relationship with his father before they fell out in New Mutants. He said they were more like pals than father and son.
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u/InsideTheFunhouse 5d ago edited 5d ago
The thought occurred to me that Gail Simone might have wanted to use Sunspot, but was told he wasn’t available (she did want to add Magik to the book, as she mentioned on Bluesky).
Although, it’s not like anyone else is writing Roberto right now.
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u/jaxlax77 Shadowcat 6d ago
ALSO: What did Rogue have Spider-Man make for Sofia? I figured we’d get back to that in this issue but we didn’t.
And another tease on the identity of Inmate X, who is “waking up” and poses a threat to “everyone in this planet.”
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u/cmcdonald22 Multiple Man 5d ago
I'm gonna guess it's like a wrist mounted grappling hook thing.
Of all of the geniuses Rogue and the X-men know the only conceivable reason I can think of to go to Spider-Man to build you something rather than almost anyone else, is an expertise in spider related things, like swinging from ropes.
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u/TheWolfmanZ 5d ago
Some people are thinking it's some sort of multi-tool that adapts to what she needs for her focus time
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u/SeaLionEarFlaps Blink 6d ago
Another good issue, with so much good stuff crammed in I felt like I was getting 3 issues for the price of one. Easily the X book I'm most excited about at the minute.
MONET IS HERE! And she's not taking any of Ellis' BS, looking forward to seeing more of her under Simone as I enjoyed her characterisation here.
This issue seems to be the start of a brief focus on Ransom's story, who's becoming a favourite of mine among the Outliers so suits me well. New bad guys are fun... honestly, finding it hard to be critical about this one. It's nice to just be having a good time with an X-run like this, think I'm just gonna bask in it while I can.
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u/wowlock_taylan 6d ago
I have no idea where the Graymalkin plot is going anymore. And no, trying to 'humanize' the Warden not gonna help after all she did and written the way she was in other places. Hell, her bodyguard is a more interesting character. I honestly don't care much for this supposed 'next big threat for Earth' this Prisoner X suppose to be. And Monet can just get rid of her collar that easily? How? If so, why not just remove it from all the prisoners and escape? Did Monet got herself inside intentionally because she promised the warden's brother to look after her? Was the brother a mutant?
Rogue is getting more and more used to the found family she had with her team now. Being the whole mama-hen. And I get she wants to help Jitter with her speech issues like she thinks she does for herself but I kinda like Jitter's speech. Makes her more unique. At least she gave her the choice if she wanted to see someone about it.
Logan really is the 'loner that becomes uncle to everyone', now with Ransom. He can't help himself being a softie. And yea, if anyone knows what Ransom might've gone through, it is Logan and hopefully he can help him. Or he might get angry enough stab Ransom's terrible parents. It is a toss-up at this point.
Deathdream, don't be sad like that man! You just cannot come to this outing but that does not mean you are not his brother anymore. Get the sentinel doggy there to cheer him up.
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u/Thebraxer Phoenix 6d ago
So mutants can use their powers when they’re wearing collars. So how the prison is still a threat when even prisoners can easily use their powers
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u/antsinmyeyesmauger Nightcrawler 6d ago
I think it's just a Monet thing not every inmate.
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u/BlueEyedIguana00 6d ago edited 6d ago
Yeah, thought it was kind of implied something was going on with Monet. Like not eating but gaining weight and everyone else is losing.
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u/Thebraxer Phoenix 6d ago
Not really because they threaten to shoot her before she destroys the collar. So what’s the point of collars if they can’t even harm her
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u/antsinmyeyesmauger Nightcrawler 6d ago
Dr. Ellis makes a comment about the collar before Monet destroys it like she expects it to work also why shoot her when they know she's invulnerable? With the comment about Monet gaining weight instead of losing weight like every other inmate there is something going on with her.
I would not be shocked if Monet is there voluntarily to eventually bring down the prison.
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u/VengefulKangaroo Shatterstar 6d ago
the issue was obviously conveying that Monet was resisting it somehow
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u/FragrantShine3389 6d ago
See, I heard this was going to be released later because they were going to put all issues on pause for Age of Revelation. But anyway, it’s a good issue!!!!
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u/Gary_The_New_Goblin 6d ago
Kinda surprisingly, I like all of the new mutants except for Ransom which would explain my lack of interest this issue and me being more interested in the prison stuff
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u/PatWasRight_F_CHUGS 2h ago
Another really good issue.
Ransom had been the least fleshed out member of the Outliers so I liked that he got his development here, and I enjoyed how his brother's fight was intercut with Gambit & Logan's conversation with Ransom. Logan acknowledging he had a point later with "Old enough to fight, not old enough to drink" was a really funny beat.
Rogue's moment with Jitter was nice but perhaps could have happened in another issue? It felt out-of-place here particularly due to how we saw no sign of what the gift actually looked like. The issue would have had more narrative consistency if it just focused around Ransom once we cut to Haven House. I did enjoy Monet revealing she knew Ellis' brother and had only gotten caught to fulfill her promise to him, and how she verbally cut down Ellis.
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u/AngelEyes360 Askani 6d ago
Ultimate X-Men #19
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u/cyclopswashalfright Moonstar 6d ago
It's got to be a time for reflection for Noriko, she's been defeated 3 times now.
The splash pages of the battle were beautiful to look at.
The ending was surprising, I did not expect it to end like that, so abruptly.
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u/DarkAlphaZero Cyclops 5d ago
As probably the biggest Surge fan on this sub I'm deeply conflicted over whether I want her to turn good or to keep being Mei's wet cat energy girlflop """""""rival""""""
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u/Wowerror Hellion 3d ago
Would be kind of interesting to see Surge start up some kind of Brotherhood now that the cult seems to be done.
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u/wowlock_taylan 6d ago
Maestro's big plan was to send the kids to fight Maystorm's X-men and then show up like the final boss. I guess it is practically 'Sinister-like' from him. And Hisako comes to the rescue as well with the jacket and the motorcycle! Will Surge get redeemed or still remain an antagonist? Maybe Maestro betraying her will finally open her eyes.
Sure, Kagayema dealt with the Maestro but I still don't want that creepy stalker anywhere near the girls. No 'sob scene' gonna redeem him. I am more shocked that Sunfire allowed these battles to happen on the streets. Council members are usually all about 'keeping things clean' and sent their agents in to deal with stuff.
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u/DarkAlphaZero Cyclops 5d ago
Maybe Sunfire allowing these battles to happen is part of a plan to get more openly authoritarian while getting the populace fo thank him for it
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u/shadowF 6d ago
As always, I read the issue ahead of time.
Peach illustrates how far we've come on the opening page of the issue by drawing a parallel to the opening of Issue 2 from April 2024. As Shinobu's words echo through Hisako's mind, she corrects them through those closest to her heart, rather than letting herself be consumed by her now non-existent shell of loneliness as she once did. She says words to herself that she couldn't say to Tsubasa prior to his suicide.
We see a mention of Emperor Sunfire among Hisako's phone notifications. Due to Issue #21's solicit, he is possibly meeting with Hi no Kuni's congress to push for anti-mutant legislation.
The battle between the Secret Society X-Men and the Children of the Atom is action-packed, perfectly illustrating the chaos of the battlefield. Afterward, we see that these X-Men are just kids who aren't meant for fighting. They're all either knocked out or bruised up after the fight is over. I believe they also help some of the Children of the Atom who were left behind.
We also gain insight into Project MY-X. Mutant blood acts as a human enhancer, also awakening latent X-Genes upon direct contact. However, MY-X, as inferred from Issues #18 and #19, is an enhancer for both mutants and humans. It's composed of the blood of two Omega-level mutants: Shinobu and Hisako. Before Kageyama blew his head off, it allowed Fujiwara to mimic his Shadow King powers.
The LeXicon offers deeper insight into Kageyama's childhood and twisted psyche.
Another month, another fantastic issue! I can't wait to see where we go next! Time is running out untl we reach Endgame.
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u/starshipsinerator Jubilee 5d ago
The art during the big fight was so good, probably the best of the issues so far (other than maybe the main astral plane issue). Only problem is that lots of splash pages means the issue went very fast for me, even faster than Momoko's issues usually do.
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u/Eastern-Mouse6436 6d ago
I am wondering now if Sinister will reappear again and if he has many available clones...
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u/Thingymcjig 6d ago
Copying my comment from another subreddit:
WE’RE SO BACK
EDIT: Also, Kageyama returns, but no one cared. I like that this issue showed a new side to him, he was genuinely heartbroken that no one cared he was gone. Even at the start of the issue when trying to manipulate Hisako, he was projecting his insecurities to her. Even though he killed the Maester and is now truly freed from the cult, he’s still all alone, crying to himself. Will he now take over the cult for himself?
I also like that the lexicon showed more of his past, it’s horrifying how long he’s been like this
Also, My-X is a way of copying powers? That explains the name! Fun issue overall
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u/Wowerror Hellion 3d ago
I'm still enjoying the series but I feel it hasn't properly been able to pay off the slowburn that was set up early on. I'm curious how much this was effected by there being a countdown for Makers return.
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u/AngelEyes360 Askani 6d ago
Imperial War: Exiles
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u/Blitzhelios Magik 6d ago edited 6d ago
Ok this is so fucking cool and right up my street the whole concept of them being on the run from the shiar and xavier trying to do something he wants to be in being a dad but truly doesn't know how its great.
The art is stunning Renna and the colours help this title so much and the drawing of the supercommandos in particular is so good
This was the imperial book i was worried about as Foxe is very hit and miss but this has sold me
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u/cyclopswashalfright Moonstar 6d ago
Renna is who you're thinking of for Phoenix. Manna did the recent Giant-Size House of M issue. Very Pepe Larraz inspired.
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u/Stringr55 6d ago
Enjoying all these Imperial things. Love seeing Marvel Cosmic and I think this is a great way to use Charles but take him off the board for the X-Men.
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u/wowlock_taylan 5d ago
Deathbird really has become the best character out of all. I just love her connection to Xandra. She really has become a mother to her in a sense. Xavier and Lillandra got a lot of 'get to know our daughter' moments to get through. I also hope they teach her how to defend herself better since this is like what 3rd-4th attempt to depose her? Deathbird had so many last stands to keep her safe.
As for the Exiles team, I am not too sold on it honestly. Especially Rocket being involved here. He wouldn't care about this at all.
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u/Jasonl7976 6d ago
That was a fun read and set thing up for Exiles.
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u/jaxlax77 Shadowcat 6d ago
Wish it were called Starjammers, but yes.
I’m irked that Hepzibah and the others are nowhere to be seen and Corsair has been off on his own for a while now with no explanation.
Scott’s two daddies on the same team? Count me in.
Kid Gladiator? A deep cut, but makes sense given Gladiator’s death (seemingly confirmed by the grave) and Xandra’s presence here (so she’s not the only youth).
But no Deathbird in the main cast? I want to see her and Lilandra as the two dueling female influences in Xandra’s life.
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u/cmcdonald22 Multiple Man 5d ago
Calling it Exiles is such a marvel Marketing 'Well, research shows that readers are 7% more likely to buy a title that shares a name with an existing franchise, so we should call it something that already exists rather than something new'. And like, I get that they are on the run EXILED in a sense from Shi'Ar space, but by that logic you might as well have called the book RUNAWAYS.
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u/Prof-Ponderosa 5d ago
Ooooh Exiles is a nice team name for this bunch. I actually didn’t realize that they’re the new “super guardians of the galaxy”
What I’m really excited for is the return of Kid Gladiator. As a Wolverine and The X-men fan, seeing Quentin, Glob and Idie grow in McKay’s run has been fun. Even eye-boy has popped up in Exceptional but I’ve been wondering about where Kid Gladiator has been. Hopefully we see Broo too.
I will be picking up this book post imperial
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u/Destron81 Colossus 3d ago
Loved this issue. Loved Xavier, Lil, and Deathbird. Looking forward to the Exiles with Xavier, Lil, Xandra, Corsair, and Kid Gladiator.
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u/AngelEyes360 Askani 6d ago
Laura Kinney: Wolverine #10
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u/Day_Dr3am Laura Kinney 6d ago
It was fine I guess. I'm glad they rescued Gabby and Laura has like committed to being there for Gabby and acknowledging Gabby's importance to Laura. I imagine some of the wording where she promises Gabby nothing will separate them again is kind of intentionally ironic given the previews for Laura Kinney: Sabretooth.
The issue didn't exactly impress me though either. Thinking back I feel like the book would have been better served had it been restructured a bit. Like I feel the more important arcs, including this one, would have been a lot better had they each had an additional issue (they each only have 2), as the pacing for each feels too abrupt and I feel would have been better with more room (probably cut the Elektra team up and issue 8 to make room for that I guess). But yeah the issue / arc feels too short, pretty basic, and unimpactful. Also still not impressed by Schultz's voice for Laura, an example would be how it does that thing where Laura is very aggro and wants to do harm or kill someone who surrendered and or wasn't really a threat and Gabby acts as like Laura's empathy to remind her that she isn't supposed to like killing / hurting people, where Laura has historically been shown to be a very empathetic person imo. Which maybe that's being nitpicky, as I do think there is an argument that where Gabby is concerned she's a bit more emotional / unhinged. But it isn't exactly an isolated moment with Schultz's writing of Laura (like for example how in issue 7 she talks about how her doing violence in that issue feels like how she felt when she was effected by the trigger scent, which completely robbed her of her autonomy / choice and was a deeply traumatic thing, as a neutral or positive thing) but this was her 15th issue writing her so didn't really expect to be wowed by Schultz's voice for Laura at this point. But again maybe it would have worked better for me had the moment (and the arc generally) had a bit more room to expand on how Laura was feeling and what she was thinking.
Maybe I'll have more thoughts or soften on it a bit after sleeping on it, idk.
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u/TheBigG1989 6d ago
The two issue arcs really damper the stakes and the character interactions imo. Again its not bad...it just feels like there stuff missing. I will say much like issue 8 kinda put a bow on the Elektra & Luke Cage stuff. This one kinda put a bow on the Bucky stuff.
So I give Erica credit for doting her is and crossing her ts, Just one last loose end to tie up - and im curious what the curve is going to be. Because with how everything else has been tied up nicely...something is bound to blow up in Laura's face for drama's sake.
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u/cmcdonald22 Multiple Man 5d ago
This book, if it weren't getting AOR'd, this would probably be the last issue of this run for me. This book does 2 things that just make me not want to keep reading.
It's kinda boring. It's the Thorne X-Force for the solo titles. It's not that it's necessarily doing much wrong, it's just that its not doing really anything particularly interesting or particularly great.
It makes me ask 'why' too much.
"Gabby needed someone and I wasn't around. So she turned to Dracula's son.."
Why?
Why wasn't Laura around? I mean, we know she left, but they were together for blood hunt, and then she just went off to be in NYX, but WHY? Why did she actually leave? Why didn't she take Gabby? We still don't have a good REASON?
Why did Gabby turn to Dracula's son? Like, again, he was there in Blood hunt one shot, but that's it? Of all of the people Gabby has ever interacted with, all of the mutants, why with Logan being around, WHY DRACULA'S SON? The only reason we have is to infer because he was literally the closest named character to her.
And questions like these are dumb, because you could just answer them and do something interesting with the answer. Instead of just having Laura be guilty cause she left, have Laura admit that she was being selfish specifically because so much of her life has been out of her control, and make it explicit that she CHOOSE to be selfish, and that now she views the Gabby stuff as being punished for it, and explore Laura having to bury away her feelings and struggle with the idea of finding a healthy way to live her own life again. Tell us that Gabby picked Dracula's son because she lost all of her Krakoan friends, either cause they died and she witnessed or, or because they went to the white hot room, so Gabby picked Dracula JR because its not like a dead guy dying on her will hurt as bad or something.
Just... do something interesting.
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u/SeaLionEarFlaps Blink 6d ago
The ending feels a bit rushed for the move into AOR, which has me worried that the same thing is gonna happen across the line. Wouldn't be the first time, I can think of a few crossovers that had the same issue, big bumps in the road pacing-wise like that leave me to worry that theres a real issue with communication between writers and editors thats only going to keep causing problems. Let's hope I'm wrong though.
Also, hey Gabby got the necklace that was on one of the AOR Laura covers, neato!
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u/Built4dominance Storm 6d ago
I know that Krakoa used the Resurrection protocols to improve mutants through genetic engineering. Im surprised they didn't use the protocols to help Gabby. I know there were rules around clones, but they resurrrected her anyway. They could have fixed several of her problems.
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u/SomeTool 6d ago
They brought gabby back with her nanites that keep her from feeling pain but were also used to kill her sisters. And they fucked up and gave laura a metal skeleton because reasons. The resurrection protocols were not good to them.
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u/Sovereignofthemist Laura Kinney 6d ago
Solid issue. Nothing impactful. If this truly is the end of this run (we have no idea with AoR taking over things) I can leave it saying that Schultz's run was just okay. Nothing more and nothing less. Laura was written fairly solid, but in terms of story and progression I don't think it made any leaps forward, but at the same time it didn't take any steps back which can happen sometimes with characters. It doesn't feel like a run I'll remember, unless someone brings up something specific, but I don't see anyone mentioning this run as reference for anything outside of a shipping conversation.
That said, with New Avengers still ongoing and Deadpools & Wolverines. I will appreciate this run for having Laura being her self and in character. I just wish we got more depth with it, because it all felt surface level and safe. I do kinda feel like at the end of it, Laura reflects on a lesson I'm sure she already knew, but this is her reestablishing herself after Krakoa, so I guess I can let it slide.
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u/wowlock_taylan 6d ago
They reinforce the importance of Gabby to Laura which is good but also, 'she is a clone so it may cause issues from the natural mutants' thing makes little sense since after Krakoa, literally EVERY MUTANT is a 'clone' basically. And even Gabby got her body resurrected by the same protocols so she is just as 'natural' as the rest of the resurrected.
Xarus and Gabby is an interesting and surprisingly wholesome duo. And this again proves why Gabby is a great character with her compassion.
All of this about how they will never seperate again and then, the next issue Laura becoming Sabretooth and fight Gabby/Daken in the awful future. *sigh*
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u/PatWasRight_F_CHUGS 2h ago
Good issue.
Jonathan was my favorite part of the issue by far, but I also enjoyed Gabby heling Xarus and Laura recommitting to look after he family. Not much else to say otherwise.
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u/AngelEyes360 Askani 6d ago
Unlimited and Other Releases 09/03
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u/Jasonl7976 6d ago edited 6d ago
This is talking about the Magik and Strange story in Strange 450
-nice reference to the time Magik absorbed Limbo back in Bendis Uncanny
-love the banter between Magik and Strange.
-really love the part where Strange advise Illyana telling her that she view her magic as a symptom of her time in Limbo and that she need to accept her power and not run from it (aka the first step)
-love how the black sludge that Magik created became a butterfly when they banish it
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u/Oberon1993 6d ago
Xanto Starblood, of all people, is back in Amazing Spider-Man
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u/Prof-Ponderosa 5d ago
Whaaaa
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u/Oberon1993 5d ago
He saves Peter after he is teleported to alien planet. Hides his whole crazy scientist persona and goes for cooky space grandpa scientist. Which works...up until Pete finds his secret stash of kidnapped aliens. Including what people think is a suit of phalanx origin. He then frees the aliens, which will be his supporting cast for the space arc
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u/cyclopswashalfright Moonstar 6d ago
I was totally right about the X-Men just being glorified babysitters.
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u/cmcdonald22 Multiple Man 5d ago
Yeah but if no one was house sitting who else would have answered Hyperion's door knocking.
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u/AngelEyes360 Askani 6d ago
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