I think we need to be prepared for many more Trumps to come.
1) Look at the string of Republican presidential ticket candidates, wholly unqualified, ignorant to the core, and willfully deceitful. 2008 Sarah Palin, 2012: Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain; 2016 Ben Carson, Donald Trump. Each of these candidates spent time at the top of Republican polls (or were on the ticket), despite a litany of bigoted, bizarre, and deceitful statements and positions... Slavery was good for black people! Dropping income tax to 9% for rich people isn't an economic death spiral, it will increase tax revenue!
Re watch a primary debate with Trump and the other Republican candidates from 2016. Watch them all try and one up each other on how big a war crime they want to commit until Trump blows them all out of the water calling for murdering family members of accused terrorists and assassinating world leaders--while Republican voters cheer. He's a step further, not an outlier. Rinse and repeat for immigration, taxes, and climate change.
The problem isn't Trump. There is a reason he's got 80-90% approval among Republican voters. He's one of many, and more are coming down the pipe.
I've never thought W had malice in his heart. The man was simply not as willful as the demon occupying the vice president seat while he was president. W honestly thought he was doing the right thing for others. That said, the man had his moments where I seriously questioned his intelligence. He made the ultimate pawn for Cheney.
Bush is a fucking war criminal who slaughterd a million innocent iraqis over fake WMDs. Bush is not a fucking innocent mislead child he was the president. He knew exactly what he was doing. Can't bilieve you are making excuses for a mass murderer.
Why wouldn't you? All the resulting violence was a direct cause of the US destroying Iraq. If you burn my house down and I die of cold. You sill killed me.
"On Friday, 14 September 2007, ORB International, an independent polling agency located in London, published estimates of the total war casualties in Iraq since the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.[1] At over 1.2 million deaths (1,220,580), this estimate is the highest number published so far. From the poll margin of error of +/-2.5% ORB calculated a range of 733,158 to 1,446,063 deaths. " = First Paragraph
Because the sectarian violence was something they perpetrated? It's not the cold tgat killed people. It's bullets and car bombs. It's not like they had no choice but to kill people not in the same religious sect as themselves.
Second, independent polling agencies like the one you posted dont count bodies. Iraq Body Count, U.N. and other organizations are way, way lower. When you have a "calculated range" of 700k to 1.2million, you're not dealing with anything remotely scientific.
I fail to see what I've said that constitutes an "excuse". I've said multiple times in this conversation that he's responsible for what happened when he's in charge.
I'm on your side but no he didn't order a million civilians to be killed, that's ridiculous. They died indirectly from infrastructure being destroyed and from fleeing cities. Presenting lies as truth hardens the opposition.
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I think we need to be prepared for many more Trumps to come.
1) Look at the string of Republican presidential ticket candidates, wholly unqualified, ignorant to the core, and willfully deceitful. 2008 Sarah Palin, 2012: Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain; 2016 Ben Carson, Donald Trump. Each of these candidates spent time at the top of Republican polls (or were on the ticket), despite a litany of bigoted, bizarre, and deceitful statements and positions... Slavery was good for black people! Dropping income tax to 9% for rich people isn't an economic death spiral, it will increase tax revenue!
Re watch a primary debate with Trump and the other Republican candidates from 2016. Watch them all try and one up each other on how big a war crime they want to commit until Trump blows them all out of the water calling for murdering family members of accused terrorists and assassinating world leaders--while Republican voters cheer. He's a step further, not an outlier. Rinse and repeat for immigration, taxes, and climate change.
The problem isn't Trump. There is a reason he's got 80-90% approval among Republican voters. He's one of many, and more are coming down the pipe.